CHADW Report post Posted October 2, 2017 64 year old white guy shooting country music fans? Latest tally, at least 50 dead and 400! injured. Some of that must have come from the stampede. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipster Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Insane. RIP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin2772 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Most reports ive seen are stating he had no political or religious affiliation....that he "just snapped." Seems like a serious set up and plan to carry out for having "just snapped". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbe Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Too bad this idiot will give other idiots new ideas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHaynes772 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Not confirmed, but supposedly ISIS is claiming responsibility and saying he converted 4 months ago. Again, there's nothing to back this up yet, just seeing it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rouleur Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Not confirmed, but supposedly ISIS is claiming responsibility and saying he converted 4 months ago. Again, there's nothing to back this up yet, just seeing it. Girlfriend living with him since January. Pics of her on her Facebook that show her in the ME at a few points. They found her casino ID with him in the room. Apparently they found the room so quickly because the smoke from the gun set off the rooms fire detector? I would have thought taht would flood the room with water setting off the sprinklers. They used a charge to enter the room but report says that he killed himself right before the breached the door. Sounded like a M249 to me, Roman. Honestly, it was like Afghanistan on the videos. Checked on a few friends and they are all safe, they were at the concert or had just left. Another friends husband is a cop there, he made it home safe. Two first responders (police) in the 50+ casualties. Honestly, I don't get it anymore. HOw do you have such a great delta between folks that are packing ships to send supplies to Puerto Rico, to an unhinged mass murderer shooting innocent people at a country western concert??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emanon Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Heard back from the wife of one of my friends, he's safe. I have friends who play for Kane Brown, Luke Combs and Jason Aldean, all who were playing last night. They are all safe. Bunch of people have been taken to separate locations for eye witness accounts and interviewing. I cannot believe this. I can't even watch the videos, starting making me literally sick to my stomach. Glad your friends are all safe! Wife and I were supposed to see Aldean in San Diego this coming Saturday. Still will if the show isn't cancelled. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMan Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Seeing rumors and posts of Antifa claiming responsibility. Would not surprise me at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rouleur Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Seeing rumors and posts of Antifa claiming responsibility. Would not surprise me at all. I heard it was started from a fake site/profile. I hope that is true, because if not, its going to be war in the streets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emanon Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Latest count, 58 dead, 515 injured. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMan Report post Posted October 2, 2017 I heard it was started from a fake site/profile. I hope that is true, because if not, its going to be war in the streets. Good to know! Latest count, 58 dead, 515 injured. Jesus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMan Report post Posted October 2, 2017 What a dumb cunt. Unbelievable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK79 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 What a dumb cunt. Unbelievable. That didn't take long. People are still fighting for their lives in hospitals and this bitch goes there?!?! And people think The Donald has no self control on Twitter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blylek Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Looks like our friend's mother was killed/murdered at the concert. He's a great kid (played for our team several years ago) and joined the coaching staff. His mother was awesome...beat cancer last year only to be cutdown by some giant asshole from a 32nd story window shooting into a crowd... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerplop Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Looks like our friend's mother was killed/murdered at the concert. He's a great kid (played for our team several years ago) and joined the coaching staff. His mother was awesome...beat cancer last year only to be cutdown by some giant asshole from a 32nd story window shooting into a crowd... I'm so sorry That's terrible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gLA Report post Posted October 2, 2017 I'm so sorry to hear that. Looks like our friend's mother was killed/murdered at the concert. He's a great kid (played for our team several years ago) and joined the coaching staff. His mother was awesome...beat cancer last year only to be cutdown by some giant asshole from a 32nd story window shooting into a crowd... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smash Boy Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Looks like our friend's mother was killed/murdered at the concert. He's a great kid (played for our team several years ago) and joined the coaching staff. His mother was awesome...beat cancer last year only to be cutdown by some giant asshole from a 32nd story window shooting into a crowd... Oh man, that's terrible. So sorry to hear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawr Report post Posted October 2, 2017 moment it started: https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fd4_1506925351 https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d52_1506944699 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smash Boy Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Apparently they found the room so quickly because the smoke from the gun set off the rooms fire detector? I would have thought taht would flood the room with water setting off the sprinklers. They used a charge to enter the room but report says that he killed himself right before the breached the door. Smoke doesn't set sprinklers off, only heat does (or physically breaking the fusible element). Not much else will heat a ceiling to 135/155F but a real fire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ameer Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Damn... Some pretty fucked up people on this planet. RIP to the victims of this terrible tragedy. I hope you are all safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Shocking & absolute tragic! May all the victims R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercar Ace Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Apparently they found the room so quickly because the smoke from the gun set off the rooms fire detector? I would have thought taht would flood the room with water setting off the sprinklers. They used a charge to enter the room but report says that he killed himself right before the breached the door. Something isn't adding up...Only thing I could think of would be people in the room below or above making a report...but still seem a little too quickly pin-pointed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmtn Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Smoke doesn't set sprinklers off, only heat does Yep sprinklers have woods metal that melts at 70c°. But fire detector / fire alarm have americum241 or optical based system that responds to smoke.. Seems logical that that happened. I have no words for the happening. People are really sick. Horrible stuff. Propably getting out of the concert are was also hard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smash Boy Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Something isn't adding up...Only thing I could think of would be people in the room below or above making a report...but still seem a little too quickly pin-pointed I'm not a guru on guns, but if there was enough sustained smoke due to all those shots and the smoke didn't dissipate so quickly, then it's realistic for it to set off the smoke detector. Just think about false alarms from the kitchen and if heavy gunfire could simulate that. If that indeed happened, the rest is easy to pinpoint very fast from the fire alarm control panel. Probably some delay mentally to make the mental association between the shooting and that smoke alarm condition being the location of the active shooter. The building alarms should not go off, just the sounder base on the detector. He probably wouldn't have realized he outed himself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerplop Report post Posted October 2, 2017 I'm not a guru on guns, but if there was enough sustained smoke due to all those shots and the smoke didn't dissipate so quickly, then it's realistic for it to set off the smoke detector. Just think about false alarms from the kitchen and if heavy gunfire could simulate that. If that indeed happened, the rest is easy to pinpoint very fast from the fire alarm control panel. Probably some delay mentally to make the mental association between the shooting and that smoke alarm condition being the location of the active shooter. The building alarms should not go off, just the sounder base on the detector. He probably wouldn't have realized he outed himself. After running my shower for about 2 minutes, if the door is left open, it'll set my smoke alarm off in the next room if I don't have the door closed. Very sensitive, and I can't imagine the temperature of the condensation moving over is all that hot moving to the next room. Takes virtually nothing to set it off. So I don't doubt that particulates could set one off. A lot of smoke detectors these days go off of particulates. Where I work we have a VESDA (Very early smoke detection alarm), and it goes off particulates. We don't even allow cardboard inside the secure rooms because kicking up dust and getting particulates in the air can set it off. Sealed rooms, dust free, with gargantuan, very fine bag filters. So depending on the type of alarm, if an early warning system, it could set it off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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