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Pre LP power gains (without SC or TT)


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Hi All,

 

 

I am sure this question has been asked a million and one times, but what is the maximum gains obtained without actually supercharging or Twin turbos.

 

 

Reason for asking, some tuning companies I've spoken to in the uk recon that with the listed mods below, they expect a pre LP i.e. (496HP) car to achieve in the area of 600hp and 450+ IB.FT approx, which from what I've read is massive and completely unheard of. I'm assuming they are giving figures for later car like an LP560 after tuning or something, however this isn't my area of expertise.

 

I am sure someone has experience in maximum gains on a NA Gallardo ever achieved.

 

 

Mods List for Example

 

Tubi after market exhaust HP ?????

 

Aftermarket Air intake HP 20 or more approx

 

De Cat HP ????

 

ECU full tune 20-30Hp gain normally

 

Regards,

 

Dan

 

 

 

 

 

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I would say 40-50HP max going all out....

 

 

Hi All,

 

 

I am sure this question has been asked a million and one times, but what is the maximum gains obtained without actually supercharging or Twin turbos.

 

 

Reason for asking, some tuning companies I've spoken to in the uk recon that with the listed mods below, they expect a pre LP i.e. (496HP) car to achieve in the area of 600hp and 450+ IB.FT approx, which from what I've read is massive and completely unheard of. I'm assuming they are giving figures for later car like an LP560 after tuning or something, however this isn't my area of expertise.

 

I am sure someone has experience in maximum gains on a NA Gallardo ever achieved.

 

 

Mods List for Example

 

Tubi after market exhaust HP ?????

 

Aftermarket Air intake HP 20 or more approx

 

De Cat HP ????

 

ECU full tune 20-30Hp gain normally

 

Regards,

 

Dan

 

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I would say 40-50HP max going all out....

 

I agree completely, most manufacturers overrate their stuff and while the mods probably have a synergistic effect, they don't stack on top of each other. 40-50 max would probably be exactly what I would guess. The nice thing though is most of these mods shave some weight off too

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50wheel horsepower (60 flywheel) peak for intake, exhaust, tune sounds about right. Probably another 10whp with a cat delete.

 

Obviously, different designs in intake/exhaust and tune will have different power gains.

 

Weight removal, throttle response, fireballs, smooth powerband, sound and midrange power bump are other perks.

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Ive posted my dyno results with tubi and hi flow air filters no ecu tune so if you look in the dyno sheets/results thread you might find what you are looking for regarding mods...

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Hi Norcal2,

 

Will be interesting to see what results mine gets when i have all the below mods and ECU map done.

 

would be happy with 40-50 WHP, as i am sure i would notice the difference.

 

Current Mods

 

Titanium Cat Bypass

Tubi Exhaust

Engine Carbon Clean

 

Future Mods

 

Whiteouts Air Intake system

Full ECU Tune at DMS in the UK, although there below response is very optimistic. however we will see in due course.

Believe UK measures at the Flywheel not wheels

 

Hi Dan,

 

I have been chatting to the tech team who have advised that on the early 2005 car we would hit 600bhp

 

With no cats and increased intake we are able to take it really quite far. What is the mileage is the car?

 

Kind regards

Tony

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Most people struggle to get say 400hp assuming thats WHP.

 

Question, the standard 2004 car was 494hp or there about, therefore what is the transmission loss.

 

400WHP car tuned = what HP rating at the flywheel.

 

Where does the factory get the 494hp and 520hp for the later car figures from ?

 

 

 

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Most people struggle to get say 400hp assuming thats WHP.

 

Question, the standard 2004 car was 494hp or there about, therefore what is the transmission loss.

 

400WHP car tuned = what HP rating at the flywheel.

 

Where does the factory get the 494hp and 520hp for the later car figures from ?

 

The earlier Gallardo has a 5.0L motor and the later has a larger 5.2L which will net more HP and torque. Apparently the 5.2L variants also have a much more efficient flowing heads.

 

All things equal, one can assume that a free flowing exhaust alone would make a 5.0L Gallardo out perform a factory 5.2L Gallardo.

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Most people struggle to get say 400hp assuming thats WHP.

 

Question, the standard 2004 car was 494hp or there about, therefore what is the transmission loss.

 

400WHP car tuned = what HP rating at the flywheel.

 

Where does the factory get the 494hp and 520hp for the later car figures from ?

It also depends on the dyno used and it's all relative. The main thing to look at is before/after gains on the same dyno.

 

I generally use a Dyno Dynamics or Mustang dyno which are considered 'heart breakers' because they typically read 10-15% lower power than a DynoJet or Dynapack. Varying dynos can make big differences too, my personal LP640 varied from 612whp to 719whp on two separate dynos with the exact same mods, both dynos were about a mile apart at the same elevation and ambient temps were similar.

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