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I came out of it liking it, but feeling very middle of the road about it. The tone of the movie just felt a little too light...The middle felt a bit long but the 3rd act was pretty epic. There's a lot to love in this movie, but also a lot of things felt a little out of place. Overall Rogue One is still the best since the originals. I'll post more later on this...

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It was slow as hell until the big sentinel scene. Then it was full on awesome and set the stage to go forward. In fact as opposed to episode 7 the whole movie was written to shed old Star Wars and move forward.

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After a second viewing I can say I do like it a lot more than I initially did, but I still think Rogue One is better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Beware the Dark Side, for spoilers are ahead*

 

- Longest cruise ship ride ever

- Luke has had enough of this sh*t

- Finn: WAKE UP

- Michael Jackson did the moonwalk? Leai did the space walk.

- The new Force Facetime has crazy signal strength

- So only merchants of war get rich? Are we trying to make a political statement?

- Infinite Rey

- Luke Skywalker has been accused of sexual harassment for pulling out his lightsaber while standing over a sleeping Ben Solo

- I didn't realize Star Wars was a part of the Pokemon go universe

- Po: WAKE UP

- Always keep track of where you place a stolen lightsaber, especially if it's next to you

- Who needs a Death Star when you have LIGHTSPEED?

- For the first time in history, a Storm Trooper's armor WORKED

- Kylo Ren: WAKE UP

- Yoda still takes everyone to school

- Plucky, multi-racial feminist heroes vs militant white guys

- "You fools, this isn't even my final form" - Luke Skywalker

- Out with the old, in with the new

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It is really long, at least 30 minutes could have been cut out. There is a whole subplot that goes literally nowhere. 2 massive plot holes. As Assman says, it is a bit of slow burn much like the training sequence in VI. But overall I enjoyed it, MUCH better than Episode VII. Not as good as Rogue One, but it is up there with IV and V. All the other ones are garbage. Princess Leia's close call sequence was not well done.

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It is really long, at least 30 minutes could have been cut out. There is a whole subplot that goes literally nowhere. 2 massive plot holes. As Assman says, it is a bit of slow burn much like the training sequence in VI. But overall I enjoyed it, MUCH better than Episode VII. Not as good as Rogue One, but it is up there with IV and V. All the other ones are garbage. Princess Leia's close call sequence was not well done.

 

Kinnisella and I agreeing on things...Whoa... :eusa_dance:

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Rogue One was pretty good. I didn’t turn that off. However if this new one is like “The Force Awakens” I shut that off after 45 minutes it was so painful. Hopefully this isn’t like that one.

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the whole movie was written to shed old Star Wars and move forward.
How many times was "kill the past" said aloud?

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So what happened after Luke killed Darth? Like in the first movies, we all believed it was over, but suddenly no? It's still a family feud with the whole galaxy sucked in.

 

 

Spoilers and some questions about how bad SW is now, so many bad plot devices: https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-24-biggest-ques...wars-1821308682

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Nah, the garbage fire that is Star Wars rages on. I felt somewhat entertained leaving the theater, but all it took was a few hours thinking about it to realize what a shit storm of suck it was. "Somewhat entertained" is no way to walk out of a Star Wars movie. The harder they try, the easier it slips through their fingers. I saw it twice with two different parties. So far, the Rotten Tomatoes score is tanking lower than any other Star Wars film at 55%.

 

It was cinematically very pretty, but the story was crap, the context was crap, several key characters were crap, and the script was crap (worst jokes ever in SW). Even the props and wardrobe looked like shit. It's not as bad as the prequels, bit it's right in the same ballpark. Mark Hamill did a great job and was quite believable as a senior Luke, but it didn't help that the entire movie was underwritten by liberal idealism and lib-based stereotypes rather than just good basic story telling mechanics. Hated it. Very disappointing.

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Sounds like that Rotten Tomatoes voting is being manipulated by some major disgruntled SW fan. The movie was horrible though. I'm anxious to see what Abrams cobbles together for the next one after he has lost most of his cast. I guess if you are the adolescent that Lucas originally targeted these movies to, it may have been entertaining.

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Mark Hamill did a great job and was quite believable as a senior Luke, but it didn't help that the entire movie was underwritten by liberal idealism and lib-based stereotypes rather than just good basic story telling mechanics.

 

 

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This point really got me, which is why after my first viewing I was very middle of the road about it...hence my spoiler of "Plucky, multi-racial feminist heroes vs militant white guys" and "So only merchants of war get rich? Are we trying to make a political statement?" The modernly liberal tone of the flick was a little off putting to me.

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Its really two movies... The Luke/Rey/Kylo film...

 

And the Spaceships running out of gas film (which seems like a metaphor for the entire fcuking franchise)

 

The jedi stuff was some of the best star wars ever.

 

The spaceship/casino/bodega/asianchick/Laura dern/benicio del toro/camelswithfaces stuff was utter garbage, and far worse than the most cringeworthy moments of the prequels.

 

 

Carrie fischer didnt die... She went into witness protection after she read this script.

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Are we supposed to fear the death troopers? because they all died pretty easily like darth maul.

 

And given his true name. Osama Ben Solo is far better than Kylo Ren. Kylo Ren sounds like a female tween pop star that does kid's covers of popular songs on Radio Disney.

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Its really two movies... The Luke/Rey/Kylo film...

 

And the Spaceships running out of gas film (which seems like a metaphor for the entire fcuking franchise)

 

The jedi stuff was some of the best star wars ever.

 

The spaceship/casino/bodega/asianchick/Laura dern/benicio del toro/camelswithfaces stuff was utter garbage, and far worse than the most cringeworthy moments of the prequels.

 

 

Carrie fischer didnt die... She went into witness protection after she read this script.

 

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Jar Jar and the whole love plot from Episode 2 where worse...not by much...but certainly worse.

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  • 5 months later...

Just saw it, WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED!?! They had such a great setup with "The Force Awakens" IMO, so many things they could have explored, and instead they absolutely destroy it. IMO this film should be stricken from the canon. It is worse than all three prequels. So I am going to write a typical Wheels post (i.e. looong) and explain my pet peeves:

 

My pet-peeves:

 

1) The Empire in the original trilogy were portrayed as highly competent and professional. Yes, the Stormtroopers always were rather amateurish, but the officer corps was always portrayed as very professional. They were not cartoonish or anything like that. In this however, the continuation of the Empire, i.e. the First Order, is portrayed as a comical caricature. Which makes it hard to root for the heroes, because they face no real struggle. For example, in "Avatar," you really root for the heroes and are happy when they win because they are against such a tough and competent opponent (the RDA forces). In this film however, you almost are tempted to root for the First Order given the arrogance and incompetence of the rebel leadership. The film should have had a sad ending IMO, with the Rebels really knocked down after a major battle, making way for the third film where they will fight their best against the encroaching First Order to stop the spread of evil.

 

2) The Rebel leadership. So we have Admiral/General Leia and her Vice-Admiral Holdo, #TheForceIsFemale #Feminism #MenSuck liberal arts-women's studies-college professor-supposed military commander. The rebel fleet has been reduced to 400 people and three ships, and so a woman with pink hair in a flowing evening gown is to be the commander to save everybody. This to me would be like if they had a male commander who was dressed in a T-shirt and board shorts. It is just silliness. With leadership like this, no wonder they are down to three ships and 400 people.

 

So her plan is to not tell anyone the plan she has, which could be a bad idea because at 400 people and three ships, could cause a mutiny maybe if some think it is suicidal? Then she tells the one guy whose leadership and loyalty she actually needs to buzzer off, as he is too reckless in his behavior (such a man must be put into place by a smart woman). Which he was, but her behavior there was still IMO stupid as he is also the best pilot they have, one of the best in the galaxy, and a major leadership figure.

 

So then when he discovers her plan and says it will fail as the First Order will just destroy their ships, she could have said to him, "That won't happen, as the ships will be cloaked." Instead, she says nothing and then he starts the mutiny. THEN, later on, when they are executing the plan (after she has retaken control), she stands there and let's about half the shuttles get destroyed before hyperspacing the ship into the First Order. Which leads to...

 

3) Hyperspace weaponization: That just changes everything. I mean if you can use a ship in hyperspace as a weapon, then what was the original point of the Death Stars? Why not just build giant projectile ships with hyperdrive and use them as weapons?

 

4) Poe's recklessness: Poe is portrayed as totally reckless. All of the male characters are essentially inept and/or reckless and need to be controlled by the women in order to not end up blowing everything up.

 

5) Everyone's ineptness: So for The First Order, if large capital ships can literally be taken out by a single fighter and a bomber, why even build them at all? OR, why not immediately deploy massive fighter screens to protect them? But we are to believe that a massive dreadnought ship can be taken out by a single little fighter and a slow, lumbering bomber. And then there's the fact that Finn and Rose can escape undetected by The First Order to go try to find the hacker guy. In which case, that means that everyone could just escape. The Rebels could launch one shuttle every ten minutes say, and completely escape under The First Order's nose. The Rebels also could have just scattered their ships in three different directions, instead of keeping them altogether.

 

6) Admiral Ackbar's death: One of the greatest secondary characters in the franchise, and he just gets blown out into space and that's that, and not even as a close-up, just in the background.

 

7) Leia's new Force powers: As Han said in "The Force Awakens," "That's not how the Force works!"

 

8) Rey: So there is no growth at all for her and she is perfect. Great mechanic, great pilot, great Jedi, needs no training with a lightsaber, etc...Luke had to train hard, thought he was ready, went and battled Vader, got his butt kicked, then had to recoup and try again. Rey, on the other hand, has absolutely no struggle. No journey. And since her parents were nobodies, there's no real plot development for her either.

 

9) Snoke's being so easily killed and no background given on him

 

10) Luke's new Force powers, that enable him to show up and kiss Leia on the head, but then he is otherwise just a mirage when Kylo is trying to kill him. And also, why didn't he bother to tell anyone that it was just a trick, so that they didn't just all stand there until the First Order figured it out and then killed them anyway? Instead he leaves it for them to figure out on their own.

 

11) Rose's stunt of "rescuing" Finn. For one, she could have killed him in doing that, or both of them, and two, she then gives that absurd statement, "Wars aren't won by destroying those you hate, but by defending those you love." Well for one, that's what Finn was trying to do! And now maybe they would all die because of her.

 

12) Phasma: What is the point of her? She seems to have no plot contribution and no real skillset even.

 

13) Kylo Ren: His first appearance in "The Force Awakens" and he is bad-ass, a new villain, super-awesome, especially how he stops that blaster bolt in mid-air like that when Poe tries to shoot him. Then later he takes off his mask, which removes some of the bad-assery (for example if Vader had taken off his mask half-way through "A New Hope," I doubt he'd have seemed as bad-ass throughout the rest of the trilogy as he was). But then he devolves into just being a whiny, spoiled-brat crybaby punk.

 

Also, they tossed his character development out the door. In "The Force Awakens," when he first is interrogating Rey, and she asks, "Where are the others?" and he replies, "You mean the murderers, traitors, and thieves you call friends?" When you hear that, you think that something really bad must have happened to him in the past to turn him against everyone like that. But instead, it turns out that he is just a whiny evil punk because he's just a whiny evil punk.

 

J.J. Abrams has accused haters of "The Last Jedi" as being racist and sexist, and I can understand this thinking in particular over the outcry that happened when Finn was first revealed as a black stormtrooper for "The Force Awakens." Me personally, I have no problem with women being leaders, or THE leaders, of the Rebels in the film, of a female main hero, and of the inclusion of more non-white characters. But I do have a problem with the liberal Social Justice Warrior-man-hating nonsense that was put into the film. It literally was like reverse sexism even IMO.

 

All of this seems to be because Kathleen Kennedy is now the head of Lucasfilm and apparently is very lefty-liberal-feminist (there is a picture of her and some other women wearing T-shirts that say, "The Force Is Female") and Rian Johnson, who apparently shares all of these views and is thus being greenlighted to created a whole new trilogy from scratch.

 

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