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post Yesterday, 12:10 PM
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The aventador is really getting long in the tooth, tough to get excited for me , another body kit, 20hp more , they will make as many as they can sell . Need some new blood.


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QUOTE (LPDADDY @ Jul 18 2018, 01:10 PM) *
The aventador is really getting long in the tooth, tough to get excited for me , another body kit, 20hp more , they will make as many as they can sell . Need some new blood.



+1.

Makes you wonder what happens to SVJ prices once the replacement is announced especially if they make say a 1,000 SVJs as rumored.
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QUOTE (dtrax @ Jul 18 2018, 08:08 PM) *
How about the 812Superfast "tdf" - thats got to be another 3 years away?


Sure it is coming, but is it sexy enough to spoil the SVJ? In my mind it isn't. To be honest the 812-line is far less exciting to me than the F12 ever was. Also I share Stefano Domenicali's view. He said in an interview that Ferraris is not a competitor, but a compliment. You get the Lambo for the drama and soul. But you get the Ferrari for the everyday-usability. Why compare a spicy GT to a supercar?
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Oh how I wish Lambo would keep their limited edition V12's more exclusive like Ferrari does with their limited edition V12's. The 812 TDF or whatever it will be called might not be the best looking or best performing car available on the market when it's released but one thing that it will have going for it is exclusivity. It'll be near impossible to buy one and most of them will be purchased and put into storage.
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To those that say 1000 SVJ's WORLDWIDE is not exclusive enough...get a life! Maybe 500 will make their way to the US market. I can pretty much guarantee that I will have the only one in the entire state of Utah. Thats exclusive enough for me.

Ferrari V12's? LMAO...the 'Superfast' is ugly as F@@k.
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QUOTE (Luckydaff @ Jul 18 2018, 05:51 PM) *
Sure it is coming, but is it sexy enough to spoil the SVJ? In my mind it isn't. To be honest the 812-line is far less exciting to me than the F12 ever was. Also I share Stefano Domenicali's view. He said in an interview that Ferraris is not a competitor, but a compliment. You get the Lambo for the drama and soul. But you get the Ferrari for the everyday-usability. Why compare a spicy GT to a supercar?


The Ferrari V12 will always be significant in the automotive landscape. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks of the styling, that's one thing they always get right.

The F140 family in particular has been special -- the Enzo has been the blueprint engine for Ferrari since 2002.
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The business models of Lamborghini and Ferrari are almost mutually exclusive; they cannot be compared to each other. Ferrari is a self-containing huge marketing machine that has long established a solid following. Lamborghini; despite having the blessing of Audi & VAG; is on a shoestring budget. Given the extremities, I tip my hat to Winkelmann and Domenicali for their efforts and results. For the same reason, I don't think Domenicali would want to step on his former employer's toes just in case and hence his comment of Ferrari being a compliment. There is no telling where Lamborghini is heading so long as they are just a small sector of the big VAG pie and especially when big brother Porsche takes up a good chunk of it as well. Lamborghini needs to make a certain quantity for sheer survival and to finance their next flagship; with the SV-J and the few-off model carrying the torch.

If this is indeed the last NA & non-hybrid V12 car that Lamborghini will ever make, then the rumoured 1000 SV-J's aren't too many. They probably will retain their value quite well once people begin to realize the SV-J is marking the end of a certain Lamborghini era; as another member has indicated. Although I am confident that this isn't the end of this powerplant. It might not operate as a standalone unit anymore but it should continue its service in tandem with some hybrid tech.
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QUOTE (VCR @ Jul 18 2018, 05:32 PM) *
The business models of Lamborghini and Ferrari are almost mutually exclusive; they cannot be compared to each other. Ferrari is a self-containing huge marketing machine that has long established a solid following. Lamborghini; despite having the blessing of Audi & VAG; is on a shoestring budget. Given the extremities, I tip my hat to Winkelmann and Domenicali for their efforts and results. For the same reason, I don't think Domenicali would want to step on his former employer's toes just in case and hence his comment of Ferrari being a compliment. There is no telling where Lamborghini is heading so long as they are just a small sector of the big VAG pie and especially when big brother Porsche takes up a good chunk of it as well. Lamborghini needs to make a certain quantity for sheer survival and to finance their next flagship; with the SV-J and the few-off model carrying the torch.

If this is indeed the last NA & non-hybrid V12 car that Lamborghini will ever make, then the rumoured 1000 SV-J's aren't too many. They probably will retain their value quite well once people begin to realize the SV-J is marking the end of a certain Lamborghini era; as another member has indicated. Although I am confident that this isn't the end of this powerplant. It might not operate as a standalone unit anymore but it should continue its service in tandem with some hybrid tech.


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And when I speak to them, I feel that they buy into a world, not only into a product. So it’s also a lifestyle, an idea they see behind that. And they enjoy the car as something that is rewarding them for the hard work they’re doing, or a dream that came true after, say, saving for 20 years.
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QUOTE (VCR @ Jul 18 2018, 05:32 PM) *
The business models of Lamborghini and Ferrari are almost mutually exclusive; they cannot be compared to each other. Ferrari is a self-containing huge marketing machine that has long established a solid following. Lamborghini; despite having the blessing of Audi & VAG; is on a shoestring budget. Given the extremities, I tip my hat to Winkelmann and Domenicali for their efforts and results. For the same reason, I don't think Domenicali would want to step on his former employer's toes just in case and hence his comment of Ferrari being a compliment. There is no telling where Lamborghini is heading so long as they are just a small sector of the big VAG pie and especially when big brother Porsche takes up a good chunk of it as well. Lamborghini needs to make a certain quantity for sheer survival and to finance their next flagship; with the SV-J and the few-off model carrying the torch.

If this is indeed the last NA & non-hybrid V12 car that Lamborghini will ever make, then the rumoured 1000 SV-J's aren't too many. They probably will retain their value quite well once people begin to realize the SV-J is marking the end of a certain Lamborghini era; as another member has indicated. Although I am confident that this isn't the end of this powerplant. It might not operate as a standalone unit anymore but it should continue its service in tandem with some hybrid tech.



I agree with this - the biggest similarity between Lambo and Ferrari is price and the country they're produced in. Even then, the V12s are on different ends of the spectrum - One is a peacock spaceship, the other is a grand tourer.

Will be very interesting to see how this plays out with a Performante level update to the flagship Lambo. The S is already a significant improvement to the 700, I can't wait to see how good the J will be.

Side note, I heard you'll be able to spec your SVJ allocation at Quail. Wish I could make it!


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QUOTE (EyeDoc @ Jul 18 2018, 04:13 PM) *
To those that say 1000 SVJ's WORLDWIDE is not exclusive enough...get a life! Maybe 500 will make their way to the US market. I can pretty much guarantee that I will have the only one in the entire state of Utah. Thats exclusive enough for me.

Ferrari V12's? LMAO...the 'Superfast' is ugly as F@@k.


It is and it isn’t . By the end of the production cycle , my guess is that there will be 10000 aventador’s out there , call it whatever , 50th , S, SV , SVJ , still basically the same car with different front spoilers or stickers . To the average joe , same shit , one would be hard pressed to tell the difference between all of them . Are they good looking cars ? Definitely and best bang for the buck in the supercar segment but hardly exclusive , the same body shape goes on for way too long and that has been Lambo’s issue since the Gallardo . But they need to be profitable and I suppose this is the only way to do it . The Urus might be the game changer for the company , it should fill up the coffers very nicely and might allow for new cars with a shorter life cycle


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QUOTE (Luxeous @ Jul 18 2018, 07:10 PM) *
I agree with this - the biggest similarity between Lambo and Ferrari is price and the country they're produced in. Even then, the V12s are on different ends of the spectrum - One is a peacock spaceship, the other is a grand tourer.

Will be very interesting to see how this plays out with a Performante level update to the flagship Lambo. The S is already a significant improvement to the 700, I can't wait to see how good the J will be.

Side note, I heard you'll be able to spec your SVJ allocation at Quail. Wish I could make it!


I'll be sure to snap some pics and text them to you since I'll be at the unveiling icon_thumleft.gif


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And when I speak to them, I feel that they buy into a world, not only into a product. So it’s also a lifestyle, an idea they see behind that. And they enjoy the car as something that is rewarding them for the hard work they’re doing, or a dream that came true after, say, saving for 20 years.
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QUOTE (sl55 @ Jul 19 2018, 07:29 AM) *
+1.

Makes you wonder what happens to SVJ prices once the replacement is announced especially if they make say a 1,000 SVJs as rumored.


They will be steady, it's never good to get the 1st production year, add a hybrid in there and it get's even scarier, I'd give Lambo a good few years to iron the bugs first.
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QUOTE (Smash Boy @ Jul 19 2018, 09:30 AM) *
The Ferrari V12 will always be significant in the automotive landscape. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks of the styling, that's one thing they always get right.

The F140 family in particular has been special -- the Enzo has been the blueprint engine for Ferrari since 2002.


Are you sure they get them right? They should at least try to keep the wheels on them, don't think that's too much to ask LOL
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QUOTE (Fortis @ Jul 19 2018, 02:49 AM) *
Are you sure they get them right? They should at least try to keep the wheels on them, don't think that's too much to ask LOL


The engine is so powerful, the wheels just come off. icon_mrgreen.gif
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QUOTE(lambornima @ Jul 19 2018, 04:59 PM) *

Regular F12 was faster than Aventador as well.


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QUOTE (lambornima @ Jul 19 2018, 06:59 PM) *


Of course a lighter car with a faster gearbox wiith 60 PS more will be faster in a drag race. The F12 beat the LP700 in a drag too. But when the corners came the Lambo was faster. I am sure the S is faster on track than the 812 smile.gif
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QUOTE (Smash Boy @ Jul 20 2018, 02:50 AM) *
The engine is so powerful, the wheels just come off. icon_mrgreen.gif


I know shock.gif
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