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The next fucker who hits the "report" button on this thread is getting my foot up your ass...

 

 

And read the fcuking stickies god damnit!.

I'm having a hard time with this. Kushner's family is in China begging for investment money, Kushner himself is courting banks to raise $ to bail out 666 yet his father in law is a billionaire? It seems to me if trump was worth as much as they claim, he could just throw a few sheckles over to Jared and help them out?

I'm having a hard time with this. Kushner's family is in China begging for investment money, Kushner himself is courting banks to raise $ to bail out 666 yet his father in law is a billionaire? It seems to me if trump was worth as much as they claim, he could just throw a few sheckles over to Jared and help them out?

 

So how bad do you really hate Trump?

I mean really? I'm ok with him. I don't trust any news these days

♥️♥️♥️ From the McRonalds drive through..

I think it is great they have promoted you from the fries area to the drive thru window.

Onwards and upwards for you.

I'm having a hard time with this. Kushner's family is in China begging for investment money, Kushner himself is courting banks to raise $ to bail out 666 yet his father in law is a billionaire? It seems to me if trump was worth as much as they claim, he could just throw a few sheckles over to Jared and help them out?

 

I've been questioning Trump's actual wealth (specifically being a billionaire) for over a decade.

 

 

I'm having a hard time with this. Kushner's family is in China begging for investment money, Kushner himself is courting banks to raise $ to bail out 666 yet his father in law is a billionaire? It seems to me if trump was worth as much as they claim, he could just throw a few sheckles over to Jared and help them out?

 

Maybe Trump is letting his mostly sink/swim on his own. He will not be inclined to make good business decisions if he knows Father-in-Law Trump is always going to be there to bail him out.

 

 

I think it is great they have promoted you from the fries area to the drive thru window.

Onwards and upwards for you.

 

 

 

 

I started on clean-up just like you guys, but now... See, I'm washing lettuce. Soon, I'll be on fries. Then the grill. In a year or two, I'll make assistant manager and that's where the big bucks start rolling in.

 

Ha.. Even MacDowell's had a clear path for advancement...

"Free market economy" does not mean no government regulation.

 

 

 

What do you mean that you think free market economies "do" have "some" place in society? A free-market economy is the only form of economic system that works for a society. For those parts of society where you think the government should provide services, where do you think the government gets the revenues to provide them?

 

As for free market economies spiraling out of control if not controlled or watched, government regulation is needed yes, but the problem is that the GOVERNMENT itself can spiral out of control if not controlled or watched as well. And government regulation meant to prevent or fix problems in the market can often do the opposite. Regulate too much for example and you create an environment ripe for big businesses to take over and get into bed with the government.

 

I suppose the "spirit" of a free market economy is more suitable for a need in society, in that people should have the ability to produce/sell a product/service to the market. However, you are correct in that it's no longer free with gov't intervention, but then allows for monopolies to be created, which may also hinder society's entrepreneurial spirit.

 

Businesses exist to make a profit, and gov't exits to serve the people. As soon as intentions shift (such as gov't becoming business/profit-oriented) does this create conflicts of interest, which I think people are concerned about. Frankly, it seems all sizes of corruption will always occur whether it's within business or government.

 

Out of curiosity, how would you pitch the need for deregulation to those for protection against child labor or the environment?

I suppose the "spirit" of a free market economy is more suitable for a need in society, in that people should have the ability to produce/sell a product/service to the market. However, you are correct in that it's no longer free with gov't intervention, but then allows for monopolies to be created, which may also hinder society's entrepreneurial spirit.

 

Businesses exist to make a profit, and gov't exits to serve the people. As soon as intentions shift (such as gov't becoming business/profit-oriented) does this create conflicts of interest, which I think people are concerned about. Frankly, it seems all sizes of corruption will always occur whether it's within business or government.

 

What I find interesting is how you say, "I suppose the spirit of a free market economy is more suitable for a need in society..." this gives the impression that you are implying that there are alternative solutions for the solving of societal needs. What would these be? Yes, certain things the government can do (and even should do), but for most societal needs, the only solution is the private economy/free market. The only alternative would be the government and that has never worked.

 

Also a market economy can have government regulation and still basically be a free market. It just won't be a completely free-market.

 

Out of curiosity, how would you pitch the need for deregulation to those for protection against child labor or the environment?

 

Well for one, point out that deregulation does not mean doing away with all regulations (deregulate does not mean unregulated). Also, it depends on what regulations we are talking about. I don't know of anyone arguing that laws against child labor are hampering business. Regarding the environment, the environment is important, but for some it is a religion essentially and they seek to regulate the economy to an absurd degree.

What I find interesting is how you say, "I suppose the spirit of a free market economy is more suitable for a need in society..." this gives the impression that you are implying that there are alternative solutions for the solving of societal needs. What would these be? Yes, certain things the government can do (and even should do), but for most societal needs, the only solution is the private economy/free market. The only alternative would be the government and that has never worked.

 

Also a market economy can have government regulation and still basically be a free market. It just won't be a completely free-market.

 

 

 

Well for one, point out that deregulation does not mean doing away with all regulations (deregulate does not mean unregulated). Also, it depends on what regulations we are talking about. I don't know of anyone arguing that laws against child labor are hampering business. Regarding the environment, the environment is important, but for some it is a religion essentially and they seek to regulate the economy to an absurd degree.

 

By free market economy, I'm using the definition that it's a system where the prices of goods and services are determined by the open market without any government intervention. I figured that *any* type of regulation would be considered as intervention. By this, even something such as child labor (using as an example) would prevent it from being classified as a free market. Therefore, shifting to a free market would mean the removal of these types of laws.

 

And yes, I agree that a purely government-ran economy wouldn't work, as shown by previously fascist countries.

 

As for the environment, I'm also seeing your point with how officials may use it to steer the economy. Deforestation for exploitation of land, I believe, is something worth preventing, and while businesses may view this as an opportunity for growth and profit, it does have significant negative impacts to its surroundings. Another example would be the BP oil spill. In my opinion, these are examples where the government needed to intervene to protect the environment. Plus, sustainable energy is becoming the primary energy source in countries such as Germany, thus creating jobs.

 

Just my two cents. I'm happy to share thoughts/viewpoints elsewhere in case this is a deviation from the threads topic.

 

https://www.apnews.com/1d95c9f0f79e4c158826...ium=AP_Politics

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When you have to give yourself the participation trophy

 

I'm sorry...I can't hear her over the sound of her IRRELEVANCE

As for the environment, I'm also seeing your point with how officials may use it to steer the economy. Deforestation for exploitation of land, I believe, is something worth preventing, and while businesses may view this as an opportunity for growth and profit, it does have significant negative impacts to its surroundings. Another example would be the BP oil spill. In my opinion, these are examples where the government needed to intervene to protect the environment. Plus, sustainable energy is becoming the primary energy source in countries such as Germany, thus creating jobs.

 

Just my two cents. I'm happy to share thoughts/viewpoints elsewhere in case this is a deviation from the threads topic.

 

The BP oil spill I believe wasn't so much due to lack of regulation as the corruption at the government agency responsible for enforcing the regulations was allowing BP to skirt them. A classic case of regulatory capture. Sustainable energy does create more jobs, but with only a fraction of the energy produced.

https://www.apnews.com/1d95c9f0f79e4c158826...ium=AP_Politics

 

The travel ban I really don't know what to think. I do think there's a difference though between seeking to ban Muslims out of anti-Muslim prejudice versus national security concerns over Muslims. The 4th Circuit though, IMO, blew their credibility with their recent total misquoting of the Heller gun rights decision to uphold gun control.

Sustainable energy does create more jobs, but with only a fraction of the energy produced.

 

"Sustainable" energy is one of the biggest cons the world bought into. Don't get me wrong, I love the idea but working in the energy industry the last 10 years the reality is way different from what the "Green is Good" people have been pushing. And you're right, the energy it takes to create the tech vs the energy you get from it is laughable.

 

Germany is trying to appear to be the Green leader of the world, but then if you look closely they're ramping up production of new coal power generation plants. Anyone wanna guess why?

CNN finally published some news that wasn't fake!

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/28/us/fareed-za...nntv/index.html

CNN finally published some news that wasn't fake!

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/28/us/fareed-za...nntv/index.html

 

 

Rob, it's encouraging to see you're reading something other than Breirbart and RT.

Looks like Hope Hicks has a future in North Korea!!!!

 

President Trump has a magnetic personality and exudes positive energy, which is infectious to those around him. He has an unparalleled ability to communicate with people, whether he is speaking to a room of three or an arena of 30,000. He has built great relationships throughout his life and treats everyone with respect. He is brilliant with a great sense of humor . . . and an amazing ability to make people feel special and aspire to be more than even they thought possible

Translate: "yo this motherfuckers crazier than hunter s thompson with a head full of acid but hes signing my checks YOLO"

Translate: "yo this motherfuckers crazier than hunter s thompson with a head full of acid but hes signing my checks YOLO"

 

 

Lol.

CNN finally published some news that wasn't fake!

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/28/us/fareed-za...nntv/index.html

 

 

Excellent!

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-unapologet...ican-1495489950