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I got screwed by these guys www.euromotorsport.net - Please go to my website www.euromotorsportsucks.com

 

I know you will all back me up on this!!

 

Thanks everyone!!!

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Wow...just read the story. Sounds like you got a raw deal man, sorry to hear. :( Hopefully somone on this board has some contact info with someone who can help you, that sucks the way they treated you. :axe: :axe: :axe:

 

There are alot of owners here who have dealt with many, many dealerships. If one of our members cant help you, maybe they know someone who can.

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the first words..."everyone here" should be "everything here" unless I jumped to conclusions without reading much more.

 

Also, did Prestige screw you too? They were supposed to fix the light, but instead just reset the computer and shipped it out? I have been seeing more and more of these complaints about used exotic dealers screwing people. When Im in the market I think I would attempt to buy from a authorized dealer. Not that that would solve the problem, but you can move up the food chain with your complaint with a dealer. Instead of the problem dead ending with a convicted felon owner.

 

That sucks.

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This company, Euromotorsport, has a black Diablo 98 SV on Ebay. Anybody who goes near their cars deserves what the get! And that definietely includes Prestige in N.Miami fl...IMO!

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As a fellow lambo owner and neighbor (im in Howard Beach), i wish you the best of luck. At one point a few years ago i saw a beautiful Diablo at Prestige, but was told by some people i knew not to deal with them. THe stories they told me were incredible. Hopefully you will be able to get your money back. But people that are out to scam people usually know what they are doing. I dont know how big the Corp is but what scammers usually do is fold the corp, and open up under a different name, lets hope thats not the case. Good luck.

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YellowMurci, its too bad you didnt find this fourm earlier. All I have ever heard about Florida exotic dealers is to stay away. sorry to hear your bad news though.

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Sorry to hear that and sorry to learn from your experience.

I was looking to buy some Lambos on Ebay, but seeing what happened to you a PPI and to see it in person is a neccesity.

 

Dont worry, what comes around goes around for guys like this!

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Well, the first thing I notice is that something is wrong with the mileage.

 

"The Ad Placed" shows in the narrative that the mileage is 6K. But, off to the side, the mileage stated is 1,480. Then, on "Bill of Sale" it says 3,184"

 

Did you not question that there were 3 different mileage numbers?

 

The second thing I notice is that under "Repair Bill" - Prestige ( which I agree has a pretty bad rep. ) NEVER said they repaired a shock, or lift. It says they fixed a Head Light.

 

Lastly, why is the name "Philip Haupt" on the "Repair Bill" pages, as if he sent or recieved the faxes? Philip Haupt was arrested, and charged along with his Business Partner, Brian B. Bergbauer at EuroSpecExotic.com with 8 to 10 counts of illegally smuggling Lotus's into the US.

 

It's important to see the car in person when spending this kind of money.

 

And, asking around about the particular vehicle, or Dealer is also a good

idea.

 

Hope it works out for you.

 

-James Miller

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I think I remember this deal, if it’s the one I'm thinking of Alex got fired over this matter. Here are a few things that I think are relevant:

 

1- Daniel was not fired from prestige, but instead walked out when Mr. David wouldn't pay him back commissions (surprise!).

 

2- As it was explained to me, NOBODY from Prestige Imports was allowed to work on any cars from Euro motor sport, any body found doing so would get fired ASAP!

 

3- In order to get your car into Prestige the service manager would have had to disguise fact that the car came from Euro motor sport (IE change license plates and frames, etc).

 

I don’t think it would be fair to disclose much more about this matter online but the situation here involving the Daniel, Alex/Prestige and your car is very complicated. Who did you make the check out to for the repair? As far as Mr. David is concerned, he’s no one to talk regarding selling damaged cars, his reputation is known WORLDWIDE (even before the advent of internet forums).

 

If I’m not mistaken, I was standing next to Mr. David when he had you (from NY) on a conference call with Alex discussing this matter. On the other hand, I don’t know Daniels partner, but I do know Daniel. I have referred many clients to him (when he was at prestige) and I have always found him to be a straight shooter (keep in mind at the end of the day he is still a used car salesman). He doesn’t know that much about the cars (that’s why you need a PPI) but what he does know, he’s always disclosed to me.

 

Regardless, perhaps you handled the situation wrong, I would have never sent them that much money. Maybe $10k deposit and the balance in person? Not to mention that I would never have accepted the car w/o the nav, radar and the bumper overspray!

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What really sucks about this situation is that this was a dealer to dealer transaction. How is Harry Shasho related to Relly Motorsports and 212 Motoring? Most of the consumer protections that are afforded retail buyers by the DMV do not apply to dealer to dealer transactions.

 

I've been in this position before, because it was a wholesale transaction, DMV can't do anything for you. When I got burned DMV and my lawyer both told me I should have known better, I was a dealer after all.

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Another thing I noticed, why are you sending a letter to Lamborghini?

 

"Please accept this letter as a record of complaint of a Florida car dealer called Euro Motorsport"

 

What is Lamborghini going to do about a Used Car Dealer? Euro Motorsport is NOT an Authorized Dealer, so why would Lamborghini care about their sales practices?

 

-James Miller

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Another thing I noticed, why are you sending a letter to Lamborghini?

 

"Please accept this letter as a record of complaint of a Florida car dealer called Euro Motorsport"

 

What is Lamborghini going to do about a Used Car Dealer? Euro Motorsport is NOT an Authorized Dealer, so why would Lamborghini care about their sales practices?

 

-James Miller

 

Almost forgot, even if you are the principal of Relly Motorsports or 212 motoring, the style of your lawyers letter is wrong (style meaning who is involved in the case). Who did Harry buy the car from? If your lawyer would proceed with this case with the parties mentioned, it would get dismissed imediatly because the correct parties aren’t mentioned.

 

How do you figure Lamborghini will discipline Euro motor Sports?

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WOW! This thing is full of twists and turns, you claim that you have purchased cars from Phil at Euro Spec Exotics (I'm assuming since you listed that as a reference that it was a good experience), but at the same time your bill of sale comes from the same address and phone number as Euro Spec Exotics whose principal (at least one of them) is Mr. Philp Haupt?!

 

Did you buy the car from Daniel/Gene at Euromotor Sports or Phillip Haupt at Euro Spec exotics? I'm confused!?!

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WOW! This thing is full of twists and turns, you claim that you have purchased cars from Phil at Euro Spec Exotics (I'm assuming since you listed that as a reference that it was a good experience), but at the same time your bill of sale comes from the same address and phone number as Euro Spec Exotics whose principal (at least one of them) is Mr. Philp Haupt?!

 

Did you buy the car from Daniel/George at Euromotor Sports or Phillip Haupt at Euro Spec exotics? I'm confused!?!

 

I bought the car from Gene/Daniel at EuroMotorSport - Phillip was the one who faxed them the condition report for them to fill out and reply to in which they stated the car was perfect - and yes if you were there in the ofice I was the guy on the phone - I dont know how Alex got the car in there and was not aware of the problems between Mr David and Gene - the reason Rally Motorcars was listed becuase I needed to have them do the assignment so I could get the sales tax credit from my 360 Spider -

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Another thing I noticed, why are you sending a letter to Lamborghini?

 

"Please accept this letter as a record of complaint of a Florida car dealer called Euro Motorsport"

 

What is Lamborghini going to do about a Used Car Dealer? Euro Motorsport is NOT an Authorized Dealer, so why would Lamborghini care about their sales practices?

 

-James Miller

 

Almost forgot, even if you are the principal of Relly Motorsports or 212 motoring, the style of your lawyers letter is wrong (style meaning who is involved in the case). Who did Harry buy the car from? If your lawyer would proceed with this case with the parties mentioned, it would get dismissed imediatly because the correct parties aren’t mentioned.

 

How do you figure Lamborghini will discipline Euro motor Sports?

 

 

At this point I dont think Lamborghini will disiplice them I just wanted to get this out to as many people as possible - I have 9 cars and and have bought some of them from the people at the bottom of the letter - i got an 03 yellow 360 spider from Mike at LA auto gallery - and I bought a Gallardo and a Porshce Turbo from Phil at EuroSpec - and lastly a Bentley GT from Manahttan motorcars - I dont expect a miracle from this - I just wanted everyone to know so that noone else gets hurt by these guys

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What really sucks about this situation is that this was a dealer to dealer transaction. How is Harry Shasho related to Relly Motorsports and 212 Motoring? Most of the consumer protections that are afforded retail buyers by the DMV do not apply to dealer to dealer transactions.

 

I've been in this position before, because it was a wholesale transaction, DMV can't do anything for you. When I got burned DMV and my lawyer both told me I should have known better, I was a dealer after all.

 

and yes you are correct about all the above facts i own 212 motoring and rallye did the paperwork for me to get my sales tax credit - and Florida DMV will probably tell me exactly what you are saying - the repair charges are not the end of the world - money is not the issue here - not to sound like a big shot but the repair charges dont mean anythign to me - i just dont like the fact that these weasels tried to get over on me - i know of eleven deals that I killed for them so far - do the math - and I wont stop until its 1000 deals - I have all the time in the world and am happy to be part of these forums i am a very active user on another board and am starting to get into this one - again please understand i dont expect a thing from this except to warn other people - as a side note i dont know about Phil smuggling lotus's but I can say that he was a perfect businessman in my last transaction with him

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Hello, everyone~ Its Philip From EuroSpecExotic.com Im here to help push this issue with Harry~ Hi harry! SMUGGLE SMUGGLE SMUGGLE, "abolfaz"

ALL I WANTED WAS TO MAKE PEOPLE HAPPY AND I GOT IN TROUBLE! LOL, I MADE A MISTAKE, PAID HEAVILY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY IT WAS A VICTIM LESS CRIME! NOW, I WAS FIRST HAD WITNESS TO THESE HORRIBLE LIES FROM EUROMOTORSPORT.COM, SO I AM ON HERE TODAY TO HELP HARRY SEE THIS THROUGH. AS FOR EUROMOTORSPORT, YOU LET ME DOWN BY TREATING MY GREAT CUSTOMER LIKE A FOOL. AND GENE, HOW CAN A MAN SAY THEY HE IS A CHRISTIAN AND BE IN THE EXOTIC CAR BIZ? ~~~~PLEASE~~~~ YOU, MY FRIEND ARE SCUM~ IM TELLING MY MOTHER~ SHE IS VERY CLOSE TO GOD! :finga:

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My Lamborghini factory comment was a joke. Unfortunately by using the 360 sales tax credit on your purchase and using Rally Motorcars, you really have no protection in Fl from the DMV because it was a dealer to dealer transaction. One of the nice things about dealer/dealer transactions (as a seller) is that you don’t have to have any kind of disclosures, as a dealer your professional experience is supposed to keep you out of these kinds of problems. I understand that you are not a dealer (or are you?) but your sales tax savings scheme was to your disadvantage for any recourse via DMV.

 

As far as paintwork is concerned was the front bumper the only thing that was repainted? If so it’s not a big deal considering the type of car and what kind of minimal damage would necessitate the front bumper being repainted. A common rule of thumb in the used car business is that you should expect some kind of panel repaint in a car that’s more than 3 years old.

 

Where was Mr. Morales prosecuted? I find no record of him being charged with odometer fraud in Florida. Keep in mind the text you quote regarding the condition of the car is standard text that is used in the ebizautos.com advertsing/ebay/dupont ads. I'm not defending Daniel here, but I suspect most of the mileage errors were due to the miles/km errors.

 

Have they responded to your website/complaints? I’ve noticed that since July 25, 2005 your lawyer hasn’t filed suit against the sellers. I’m surprised that you (being in the car business) would have paid retail for a 02! What is strange is that I don’t think there is another used car dealer that has as many used Lamborghinis as these guys have so if they indeed SUCK its good to know. Next time you’re looking at a car, post the info on one of the boards, it’s a small world and more than likely someone knows the car you’re looking at…

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