jtrump Report post Posted April 20, 2017 Found this siteHere and price seems reasonable I guess. Doesn't appear to be much else to choose from. They also offer Mig29 flights in Russia for exponentially more money. Anyone have input? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
szabo_martin Report post Posted April 20, 2017 If they take it easy I guess civilians could.... but last I checked Air Force pilots are in top health and go through conditioning to handle the G forces that would make us mere mortals pass out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assman Report post Posted April 20, 2017 That would be simply badass. I'd like to hear what singleseat thinks about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMan Report post Posted April 20, 2017 Looks very interesting. I was stationed on an aircraft carrier for 3 and a half years and my 2 of my cousins flew F18's for the Navy and Marine Corps. Getting to ride in a jet would be a dream come true. Being around them in person is a moment that always leaves me in awe. It doesn't seem as though you'll be pulling many G's in this flight or pulling any acrobatic moves but is very cool nonetheless. For anyone who has the chance to enjoy this opportunity, I would say take it. As for our pilots, they are indeed in the most tip top physical shape and anything as small as say as change in the most minute medication or other circumstances will ground you from flying until further notice. As for pulling G's, many people who haven't trained for it are prone to pass out mid-turn due to the lack of blood circulation from pulling so hard. There is a technique that pilots use where the flew their lower body to keep blood flow at an ideal level. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Report post Posted April 20, 2017 I had no idea you could do something like that for only a few grand, that looks badass!!! I'm definitely intrigued! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtrump Report post Posted April 20, 2017 If they take it easy I guess civilians could.... but last I checked Air Force pilots are in top health and go through conditioning to handle the G forces that would make us mere mortals pass out I think it said 4G's max somewhere in the link. That should be tolerable Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercar Ace Report post Posted April 21, 2017 The Mig seems like it's the way to go... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smash Boy Report post Posted April 21, 2017 I think it said 4G's max somewhere in the link. That should be tolerable Probably something similar to these F1 driving experiences for civilians with power dialed back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPDADDY Report post Posted April 21, 2017 I think it said 4G's max somewhere in the link. That should be tolerable I have always wanted to do that, i am so glad you put up the link. 4G is a lot, i did not read the article, do they supply a G suit . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtrump Report post Posted April 21, 2017 I have always wanted to do that, i am so glad you put up the link. 4G is a lot, i did not read the article, do they supply a G suit . I don't believe so. I'm fairly certain it isn't sustained 4g's just short bursts so you feel you are getting your monies worth. Looks like I'll have to just find out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingleSeat Report post Posted April 21, 2017 That would be simply badass. I'd like to hear what singleseat thinks about it. What would you like to know about it? Are you guys mainly concerned about the physiological aspects? i.e. What is sex like? If I get sick during sex, will that change how I enjoy sex? Is the sex going to be painful? Will I regret it? Am I right for sex? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMan Report post Posted April 21, 2017 What would you like to know about it? Are you guys mainly concerned about the physiological aspects? i.e. What is sex like? If I get sick during sex, will that change how I enjoy sex? Is the sex going to be painful? Will I regret it? Am I right for sex? Assman rode one of these once and was just curious how comparable the ride is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLK85 Report post Posted April 22, 2017 I would love to do it. But I would only be able to do it when Im in Vegas. They have a few programs. I could Sky Dive around here though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew R. Report post Posted April 23, 2017 It's on my list, and I expect to do it within the next few years unless something else comes up that would be more fun. A co-worker at my last job did this in Russia and said it was unreal. The Florida experience might be a good place to start! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDoctor Report post Posted April 23, 2017 You guys are nuts. I don't even like flying commercial! I think I'd have a heart attack if I tried something like this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaciekR Report post Posted April 24, 2017 As long as it's not for a longer duration most people can handle five or six Gs for short periods of time. Flying aerobatics I can hold 7Gs to 8Gs relatively well as long as I don't do it too many times during a practice session. The most amazing sensation would be the effortless climb straight up, eventually one day I'd like to fly the Mig 29. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silversrt Report post Posted April 24, 2017 Just did it past weekend. Was a blast. L39 is a trainer. Pretty simple but absolute blast. Pulled about 4gs and got to take over controls somewhat. You get an initial feel for it pretty quick as far as elevation and turns. Even let me do a few barrel rolls. Think we hit 400 knots. Not F18 territory but you get an idea how quickly things happen up there. We were limited to 5000ft per cloud cover but a lot of fun. Was only 5 min from my house so nothing quite like an inverted iPhone pic from 500yds over your house for the family photo album. All you have to do is sign a handful of waivers and undergo a preflight ejection protocol, which is obviously for liability because at our elevation and my experience, if the pilot didn't eject me then my next of kin would be writing this review. Haha. The ground comes up quick at that speed from such a low elevation. No helmet required so you really get some fantastic views. Canopy is wide open with little restrictions. All the controls are in Russian so was a bit difficult to know what I was looking at but I didn't really care. Was laughing too hard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtrump Report post Posted April 24, 2017 Just did it past weekend. Was a blast. L39 is a trainer. Pretty simple but absolute blast. Pulled about 4gs and got to take over controls somewhat. You get an initial feel for it pretty quick as far as elevation and turns. Even let me do a few barrel rolls. Think we hit 400 knots. Not F18 territory but you get an idea how quickly things happen up there. We were limited to 5000ft per cloud cover but a lot of fun. Was only 5 min from my house so nothing quite like an inverted iPhone pic from 500yds over your house for the family photo album. All you have to do is sign a handful of waivers and undergo a preflight ejection protocol, which is obviously for liability because at our elevation and my experience, if the pilot didn't eject me then my next of kin would be writing this review. Haha. The ground comes up quick at that speed from such a low elevation. No helmet required so you really get some fantastic views. Canopy is wide open with little restrictions. All the controls are in Russian so was a bit difficult to know what I was looking at but I didn't really care. Was laughing too hard Did you do the one in florida? Any pics to share? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silversrt Report post Posted April 24, 2017 Did you do the one in florida? Any pics to share? No, I know a guy in southern Maryland. Near PAX naval air station. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtrump Report post Posted April 25, 2017 No, I know a guy in southern Maryland. Near PAX naval air station. PAX is a hour from me! Hook a brother up! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tara Report post Posted April 25, 2017 Bucket list! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cake Report post Posted April 25, 2017 Another very different option is Collings Foundation. The Mustang would be closest to fighter jet experience discussed above. Hubby did B17 and B24 with his 92 yo Dad who worked in those planes when he was in the military. They crawled all over the plane and had a blast. They did the experience in Ft Myers a couple years ago when we were there for the winter. We could see the planes fly up the Caloosahatchie River and over Sanibel from our condo. https://www.collingsfoundation.org/flight-experiences/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMan Report post Posted April 25, 2017 The flight that I really want to take part in is in Texas. You are submerged into a dog fighting environment where you must take out other planes. It's always been a dream of mine to be a WWII pilot back in the day. Those guys had balls of steel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingleSeat Report post Posted April 25, 2017 The G's aren't going to make you sick. The combined mismatched inputs from your inner ear and visual references are probably what will make you sick. The average human has a static G tolerance between 4 and 5 G's (4.xx); i.e. how much G you can take just sitting there not doing anything without passing out. The problem is blood draining away from your brain, ultimately leading to unconsciousness ("G-LOC," G-induced Loss Of Consciousness). You can help prevent G-LOC by performing a physical straining maneuver similar to straining on the toilet...contracting all of your muscles on a periodic rhythm and stopping the strain in the back of your throat in an attempt to keep the blood up in the head by pressure (forming a "hick" or "hook" sound). The timing of the rhythm is key. Wearing a G-suit (a set of inflatable bladders that squeeze your body), is thought to give maybe 1-1.5 G of added tolerance, but there's not as much science to really nail down what it gives you. The Blue Angels actually don't wear G-suits because 1) they need to look cool, 2) the G-suit interferes with finesse control of the stick, and 3), they are in excellent physical condition and well trained in anti-G straining techniques. The Thunderbirds wear G-suits because they are wimps ;-). However, the real killer with G-LOC is onset rate rather than total force. The quicker an airframe snaps on the G's, the more dangerous it can be because the occupant (be it at the controls or not) might not be as prepared as they could be. The blood is quickly and efficiently vacated from the skull. If you anticipate the G coming on, you can get ahead of it by pre-straining a few seconds prior. Some small propeller planes can actually snap the G on faster than a MiG-29. However, a MiG-29 can sustain A LOT of G for a greater amount of time, literally beating you down until you ease off or pass out. Flying a 4th or 5th Gen fighter is a highly athletic pursuit and can be quite violent to the unsuspecting guest flyer who thinks that it's supposed to be a video game. After my first full-up 1v1 fight in a jet, I dropped dead asleep for four hours, completely exhausted. Shorter stockier people typically have higher static G tolerance than tall lanky people or thin-blooded long distance runners. But, in the end, it all comes down to training and experience and everyone can find a way to do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaciekR Report post Posted April 27, 2017 The G's aren't going to make you sick. The combined mismatched inputs from your inner ear and visual references are probably what will make you sick. The average human has a static G tolerance between 4 and 5 G's (4.xx); i.e. how much G you can take just sitting there not doing anything without passing out. The problem is blood draining away from your brain, ultimately leading to unconsciousness ("G-LOC," G-induced Loss Of Consciousness). You can help prevent G-LOC by performing a physical straining maneuver similar to straining on the toilet...contracting all of your muscles on a periodic rhythm and stopping the strain in the back of your throat in an attempt to keep the blood up in the head by pressure (forming a "hick" or "hook" sound). The timing of the rhythm is key. Wearing a G-suit (a set of inflatable bladders that squeeze your body), is thought to give maybe 1-1.5 G of added tolerance, but there's not as much science to really nail down what it gives you. The Blue Angels actually don't wear G-suits because 1) they need to look cool, 2) the G-suit interferes with finesse control of the stick, and 3), they are in excellent physical condition and well trained in anti-G straining techniques. The Thunderbirds wear G-suits because they are wimps ;-). However, the real killer with G-LOC is onset rate rather than total force. The quicker an airframe snaps on the G's, the more dangerous it can be because the occupant (be it at the controls or not) might not be as prepared as they could be. The blood is quickly and efficiently vacated from the skull. If you anticipate the G coming on, you can get ahead of it by pre-straining a few seconds prior. Some small propeller planes can actually snap the G on faster than a MiG-29. However, a MiG-29 can sustain A LOT of G for a greater amount of time, literally beating you down until you ease off or pass out. Flying a 4th or 5th Gen fighter is a highly athletic pursuit and can be quite violent to the unsuspecting guest flyer who thinks that it's supposed to be a video game. After my first full-up 1v1 fight in a jet, I dropped dead asleep for four hours, completely exhausted. Shorter stockier people typically have higher static G tolerance than tall lanky people or thin-blooded long distance runners. But, in the end, it all comes down to training and experience and everyone can find a way to do it. I was actually surprised the first time we did an 8G pull in the Extra and it wasn't anywhere near as bad as I had expected, but then I remembered that you guys are exposed to those Gs for much longer since you can carry the speed, we burn it off real quick. A flight in the Mig 29 is definitely on my bucket list though, I wish I knew what it was like to climb straight up and not lose momentum after the first 3000' lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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