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post Oct 17 2010, 01:15 AM
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QUOTE (Allan's Lambo Kills All @ Oct 17 2010, 07:01 AM) *
You must have used spell check on that reply... lol.gif

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post Oct 17 2010, 02:54 AM
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QUOTE (toyroy2003 @ Oct 16 2010, 05:44 PM) *
He owns a 2010 LP670-4SV in Pearl Yellow that he bought up here in Seattle..it was equiped with a Small wing form the factory and he had it swapped out to a big wing when he sent it back up here for the 1500 mile service this last summer. Funny thing is, I recall the techs telling me he insisted they do not drive is car, just perform the service and swap the wing.


so he does not have money and owns an SV....... and guess what? he had still enough to buy the big original CF wing for it ? eusa_wall.gif

i took a look at his site, he likes to present himself like a secret space shuttle tech., he talks about twin supercharging murcielagos ....but he looks to have just put a plates on one and a clear wrap on an other

icon_mrgreen.gif from what i read and from his own site, the guy looks like a professional heavy weight b.s.er ....i hope he will get to pay for the entire cost of the car and more in the end
if he has no cash, i am sure selling the SV will give him the opportunity to pay for it! lol.gif


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post Oct 17 2010, 03:06 AM
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BTW: mr. Shadowmand has been LUCKY to have found a good, smart dude like Peak
i probably would have dealt with such an ugly situation in a similar way

but, we all know...there are some exotic owners that are not this kind of "gentleman"

guys that you would hate to have to mess with and would have dealt with this situation.... differently (and in the wrong way)

let's say the "shadowman" would have met already some other "shadow friends" .... shock.gif


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post Oct 17 2010, 03:16 AM
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Makes me boil up reading this thread...

I can't take the fact that Bill manipulated the whole situation right from the start. By dragging the time, he was able to ponder, delay, resource and ultimately strategize his way to not just bypassing from the whole accident but also to profit from it. And the fact that he did this to Peak, who I get from the positives impressions of fellow L/P-ers here, is a great guy.

So based on the read here, To Peak :
"Fella' he took advantage of ya!" and Bill got into your softer side by all the soapy BS about making ends meet, running outta business yada yada.....

He's only eased up due to the fact that the everying has been found out and not because he's sincere or about doing the right thing! Bill has been crafty and guile throughout and will probably do so to others down the road ...

I'm sure Bill is snopping ard here to keep himself on top of things and possibly even strenghten his story/suits so I'll be cautious posting about any ongoing proceedings etc....
Hope everything ends well!


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post Oct 17 2010, 04:11 AM
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I met Bill for the first time the day we took the photo of the three SVs together. We've exchanged numerous emails about our SVs, and Lamborghini but that's about it. It's been a while since our last exchange. My stomach sank as I read this thread. I would have turned this over to my attorney immediately, saved all text messages, etc., and leave it to the lawyers. I also would have done the same thing, written a purely factual post as anything else would weaken the argument. The bottom line- if anyone is servicing my car, they are responsible for damage they cause. I'm sorry to read something like this as I never want to hear that someone I know, even a little, isn't doing the right thing. It is the second accident I've learned about this year regarding a modified Ford GT that suddenly spun and wrecked. Both were non-owners driving.


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post Oct 17 2010, 05:18 AM
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Time to lawyer up...

Wealthy or not wealthy that's $250K+ down the drain.
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post Oct 17 2010, 05:52 AM
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Well since this is out.....Over 6 years of brokering exotics, and "Shadowman" is the only person to burn me out of money for services completed.


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post Oct 17 2010, 05:54 AM
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I hate reading stories involving scumbags like this guy screwing a customer or multiple customers over.
However I am very glad that it was made public as this is how to put these F_ckers out of business for good.

As far as the comments about getting attorneys involved and getting restitution I doubt it will happen as people like this hide assets like crazy to protect their possessions, trust me I have been there. The good thing is that you cannot run and hide from the internet and the bad publicity, that is the Karma catching up with them.

There is a little lesson we can all learn from this, when taking your car to a shop ask for a copy of their garage keepers insurance. If they do not have garage keepers insurance then they do not get your car.





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post Oct 17 2010, 06:35 AM
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As, Allan, Alex and Roy know well, I have had a similar situation that occurred with my Jota last year.

It is just now getting resolved and the only way was to hire a very high profile attorney to get it done.
I agree with Ray, in that there is an unwritten code amongst exotic car owners that if you break it, you buy it. If you can't afford the car, you should not be behind the wheel.

Unfortunately some of the low life scum that dwell in the exotic car arena don't seem to believe this.

I know both Joe Sackey and Roy who both sell exotics have now established a new policy with a letter that has to be signed before anyone test drives their cars.

I totally agree with exposing these type of people and letting everyone know who they are so others will not get burned like we have.
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post Oct 17 2010, 06:36 AM
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His website does not give the impression that he is trying to be a "ma and pa" shop.
I beleive this shop is pretty big in the BMW M3 world as well.

http://www.discovery-automotive.com/portal...ducts&id=50


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post Oct 17 2010, 06:54 AM
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Man what a shitty situation, sounds like Shadowman may be sporting a neckbrace when he sees his lawyer on Monday and starts the spinning the blame game.....lesson learned, get a copy of, and confirm your tuner/shop has insurance. Sorry about the loss Ray, that car was a classic.
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post Oct 17 2010, 07:06 AM
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the hell? Shit man wtf?!
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post Oct 17 2010, 07:08 AM
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QUOTE (LuckyEff @ Oct 17 2010, 11:12 AM) *
the hell? Shit man wtf?!


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post Oct 17 2010, 07:14 AM
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So he has no money but can afford an SV?! rolleyes.gif


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post Oct 17 2010, 07:27 AM
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This is painful to read! Hope all works out to your benefit.

On the bright side, looks like Mr. ''Shadowman'' can kiss his ''business'' good bye forever....BYE BYE!

And bye, bye to his 670 SV, too!

Hope the ''Shadowman'' enjoyed his little run, cuz it's all about to come crashing down on him big-time!
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post Oct 17 2010, 07:31 AM
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QUOTE (LuisGT3 @ Oct 17 2010, 11:42 AM) *
His website does not give the impression that he is trying to be a "ma and pa" shop.
I beleive this shop is pretty big in the BMW M3 world as well.

http://www.discovery-automotive.com/portal...ducts&id=50


The website is weird as well though. All the "Shadowman" and Area 51 references, and the description of their personnel would be pretty strange for a reputable, professional tuner. I gather the guy was really big into the GT scene though, and may have gotten most of his GT customers from the GT Forum? Speaking of which, what's up with the GT Forum "moving" both Ray's and "Shadowman's" threads on the incident to somewhere where they aren't viewable by casual members? It's a closed forum to begin with, and I have few if any posts over there although I registered to read it a few years back, but I can't view either of those threads. Seems like whoever runs that forum is afraid of their "shadow" or something. eusa_naughty.gif

Ray is a class guy as usual, but if it were me I'd sue the guy's beard off.


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post Oct 17 2010, 07:42 AM
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I hope people post this story to other exotics boards and bmw boards...
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post Oct 17 2010, 08:01 AM
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QUOTE (Allan's Lambo Kills All @ Oct 16 2010, 11:01 PM) *
You must have used spell check on that reply... lol.gif


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But seriously, fucked up story eusa_think.gif eusa_wall.gif


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post Oct 17 2010, 08:02 AM
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Dude drives an SV but can't cover the cost? fcuk him.

Edit: WTF is with the fcuk script?


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post Oct 17 2010, 08:11 AM
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Don't forget the SV probably has a note on it...


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