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With the new Plastic mess-06 now at 650hp and much lighter then the Viper it will need a redo of some type or its done.

2008 15000 less then half used

Yes please do I wanted to go to the Mojave event but I missed it by a week, didn't pay enough attention. I did the original 1 mile Mojave event with my LP640 when it was called runway titans, and a 1/2 mile event near Bakersfield put on by lambda lambda lambda and the lambda lambda lambda and the omega mu mu motor sports with my Mclaren. Always looking for an event to supplement the 1/4 mile weekends.

Do you know the dates of those two events

True weight will be more like 3400 lbs in street trim

Not many

Try sanding and roughing up the finish where the bead meets the wheel that should solve the problem.

Did you ever get a before and after Dyno number.

This has not been the first time Blue Monster has not understood or been confused about something, he seems short tempered.

I guess it all depend on when you buy I went to the dealer in march or April 2012 priced the MP4-12c out how I wanted it, the MSRP was $294300 they wanted to order it for me said about 4 months wait I asked for a discount from MSRP NO not even $1000 off I walked. I went back into the market about 6-7 months later right after the 2013 start to show up bought exactly what I wanted at $45000 off MSRP. So if I bought the first time I would feel pissed at how much it went down but I think at the price I paid the drop is no big deal, especially for a car that rides and handles real well and runs low 10s in the 1/4 mile. Timing is everything.

Did the DA increase latter in the day it usually will. 15 hp gets lost between runs, were you able to note the DA for those runs it should have been around 0-200 feet

I have seen Mclaren vs Aventador in lots of 1/4 mile runs and a half mile runs and since the Mclaren had its update at the end of 2012 it has won every race I have seen. The McLaren has run mostly low to mid tens the Aventador has run low elevens the only time I have seen a high 10 listed for the Aventador is from a magazine , it is capable in good weather and good driver to run a high 10. The Mclaren in good air will perform great the ECM lets the boost come in, when it's hot it backs it way out to protect the motor and knocks off a few tenths.

It works out to 14 hp gain. What gas was used in each car MP4 will pick up 15hp on 95-100 octane.

Great runs do you know what the DA was for those runs.

I believe the name of the color was changed to Rossa Con Vik

I was wondering why its been so quite around here this week. Its FiksGTS turn to have him in his hood for a while.

So yours is a bit up on power The other one you don't know because like I said the Dyno doesn't tell crank HP only Whp and you don't know what the Dyno operator used to convert it. Example at the wheels 624Whp 10%=693 12%=709 14%=726 16%=744 18%=762 20%=780 25%=832

This is different then what we were talking about before. 680hp at the crank is a bit low, the dyno did not give crank HP it gave WHP so the 680 came from someone converting it up from WHP I thought you said it made 624WHP if so it is much more then 680 crank. Find out what it made at the wheels.

It's possible but not likely unless the car is factory de-tuned, example, C63 AMG.... QUOTE (LamboNutter @ Jan 22 2014, 10:54 AM) * 75hp extra from only an ECU-map; on a naturally aspirated engine. no chance in hell. It may be setup to add some power in the mid range where it was low without changing the peak power.

You seem to be confused if the car made 624 HP on the Dyno that is WHP at the crank it is 700-725 hp that is more then the 691 advertised nobody said it was 680 at the crank. It is under rated it puts out a bit more then advertised 691 if it is 700-725. The new 720 is rated by the factory about 19-20 hp higher when someone puts it on the same Dyno at the same time as a 700 you will know the difference between the two probably not much a bit of a software tune will due that much change If the average engine is 2% of advertised then you are looking at less then 15HP either way. The daily weather change causes more then that.

You have between 700-725 HP

So if you agree 100% why don't you just post your 624 WHP which is a really good number instead of trying to say it means 780 hp

The Dyno does not give crank HP it gives WHP then someone desides to convert it to Crank hp by picking a number out of the sky to convert it you can not really believe you have 760-780 hp Why not take 25% and claim 832 hp. This has got way to silly.

You don't take 624HP and times it but 20% that is 748 hp and that is WHP plus 20% it is a loss from crank not a gain from WHP so you take 624WHP divide by .80 and you get 780HP because you are measuring loss from crank hp That is why 20-25% is to high the Aventador does not make 780-832HP

The only point I was trying to make about the Dyno is the numbers you get are real it is the 20 or 25% move up from WHP to CHP that is exaggerated . If you Dyno stock and make mods and Dyno again, you will see your improvement in WHP then you can convert it to crank hp. You can use any percentage you like to make yourself happy but if you use 20-25% and then go to the track you will not see a gain in performance to equal your made up Dyno gain. The minor upgrade and air filter would not give you 80 to 90 HP. You will get some but nowhere near that. Take it to the track and see if it is any faster then others. I don't mean to rain on your parade but I have been doing this for 51 years those types of gains don't come easy.