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A couple of guys I know in UK have placed orders, been told circa £400k UK

Here is a link someone on another forum found, it has some pics including a Carbon prototype door and ?Carbon front end chassis on crash sled? http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/tech...ini_lab_at.html

I think this must be the same car that was at Lambo London service last week being prepped, The driver seat was out of the car so i took to op to see how heavy it was...weighs peanuts! the big wing demonstrater was there as well side by side the big wing takes it on looks imo.

I think the Murci replacment is due after 2009, this is the link I have (Dated 12th July 2006) to the application for an exemption it has in the US until 2009, unless there is a recent amendment to this? http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01...06/E6-10892.htm IV. Lamborghini Background. Lamborghini is an Italian corporation formed in 1963 to produce high-performance sports cars. This application concerns the Lamborghini Murcielago which was developed in the mid 1990s and is now scheduled to continue in production until 2009. Originally, Lamborghini planned to begin selling the Murcielago in 1999 and to end production before September 2006. Because of financial hardship and a change in corporate ownership, the [[Page 39388]] petitioner did not begin sales of Murcielago until the very end of 2001, and is now forced to extend the product cycle of this vehicle. Lamborghini has experienced financial problems for several years. Over the last 4 years (2001-2004), the company lost more than 180 million dollars. Lamborghini claims this economic hardship precluded the timely development of a new vehicle that could comply with advanced air bag requirements. With respect to the Murcielago, Lamborghini also has been unable to overcome a number of engineering problems associated with installing advanced air bags in the current vehicle configuration. If the exemption is not granted, the Murcielago model cannot be sold in the U.S. during the period 2006-2009, which petitioner stated could further delay the introduction of a fully compliant vehicle. Lamborghini thus asks for a temporary exemption from the advanced air bag requirements for the Murcielago until it is replaced by a brand new vehicle in 2009. Eligibility. Lamborghini's total motor vehicle production in the most recent year of production was less than 10,000 vehicles. However, in 1998, Lamborghini was acquired by Audi, a large motor vehicle manufacturer. In discussing its eligibility for hardship relief, Lamborghini asserts that its relationship with Audi is ``arm's- length.'' Lamborghini operates independently, and services provided by Audi or Audi affiliates are paid for by Lamborghini. The agency examined the relationship between Lamborghini and Audi. We tentatively conclude that Lamborghini is eligible to apply for a temporary exemption based on the following factors. First, there is no similarity of design between the cars produced by Lamborghini and cars produced by Audi. Second, Lamborghini has indicated that it has paid for all services or assistance provided by Audi. Third, cars are imported and sold through separate distribution channels independent of the Audi dealer network. We note that our conclusions as to eligibility are tentative and the agency has not made a final determination as to whether Lamborghini is eligible to obtain an exemption. Requested exemptions. Lamborghini states that it intends to certify the Murcielago as complying with the rigid barrier belted test requirement using the 50th percentile adult male test dummy set forth in S14.5.1 of FMVSS No. 208. The petitioner states that it previously determined the Murcielago's compliance with rigid barrier unbelted test requirements using the 50th percentile adult male test dummy through the S13 sled test using a generic pulse rather than a full vehicle test. Lamborghini states that it, therefore, cannot at present say with certainty that the Murcielago will comply with the unbelted test requirement under S14.5.2, which is a 25 mph rigid barrier test. As for the Murcielago's compliance with the other advanced air bag requirements, Lamborghini states that it does not know whether the Murcielago will be compliant because to date it has not had the financial ability to conduct the necessary testing. As such, Lamborghini is requesting an exemption for the Murcielago from the rigid barrier unbelted test requirement with the 50th percentile adult male test dummy (S14.5.2), the rigid barrier test requirement using the 5th percentile adult female test dummy (belted and unbelted, S15), the offset deformable barrier test requirement using the 5th percentile adult female test dummy (S17), the requirements to provide protection for infants and children (S19, S21, and S23) and the requirement using an out-of-position 5th percentile adult female test dummy at the driver position (S25). Economic Hardship. Lamborghini states that over the last 4 years (2001-2004), it lost over $180 million with the yearly losses averaging ~ $47 million. Lamborghini asserts that, notwithstanding engineering impracticability described below, it could not afford to develop an advanced air bag system for the Murcielago and engineer its replacement by 2009. If the exemption is denied and U.S. sales of the Murcielago end on September 1, 2006, Lamborghini projects a loss of $12.7 million between September of 2006 and September of 2009. Lamborghini estimates the total cost of an advanced air bag program to be about $24 million. Lamborghini states that the development of an advanced air bag system for the Murcielago's successor can be funded through the Murcielago's continued U.S. sales. Lamborghini initially did not foresee that the Murcielago would still be in production when advanced air bags became mandatory. It was designed in the mid-1990s and was intended to be launched in 1999, with production ending in 2006. Due to financial hardship and changes in ownership, the Murcielago was not sold until late in 2001. Further financial hardship compounded by shifts in the exchange rate between the U.S. dollar and the Euro and the need to amortize costs of developing the Murcielago necessitate continued production of that vehicle until 2009. Good faith efforts to comply. Once the petitioner realized that the Murcielago would have to continue beyond September 2006, Lamborghini undertook to development an advanced air bag system. As early as 2001, Lamborghini began contacting air bag manufacturers in an effort to develop a compliant advanced air bag system. It pursued this matter with at least four suppliers. However, none provided a workable solution. The efforts continued until the summer of 2005, at which point Lamborghini concluded that technical constraints prevented development of advanced air bags for the Murcielago. Specifics of the technical difficulties are described in the petition. Lamborghini argues that an exemption would be in the public interest. The petitioner argues that the number of vehicles affected by an exemption would be very small and will therefore have, at most, a negligible impact on the overall safety of U.S. highways. Further, the Murcielago is likely to be operated only on a limited basis. Lamborghini also argues that granting an exemption will assure proper parts and service are available in the U.S. to support existing owners of Lamborghini automobiles. Finally, it argues that the Murcielago features other voluntarily provided safety features including a passenger air bag ``on-off switch,'' ABS, Traction Control System, and 4-wheel drive.

Excellent pic with the brake discs, I can't imagine there are many users that have tracked a 722, most are prob stuck in collections. great work.

You can't order a Veyron with "extra boost" and the Pegasus car is identical mechanically to every other Veyron, it is not 200hp extra, the color sceme and add cosmetic changes were done at the factory and the extra HP is just PR from the owner. The car looks ugly in person, imo of course :-)

That's Mike Pullen, UK's best kept secret re Lambo's. He is still in Biz, infact I spoke to him on Friday, you can get him on Workshop no - 01444 455100. Mention my name if you want to beat the que of Lambo owners club cars that are getting prepped for the annual show at the end of this month. Cheers Mandeep

hopefully... Jonny5 and I will be going to the factory next month. Will feedback afterwards. I'm trying to sway my mate to get the Moroccon blue with pearl white but he is dead stuck on the black and yellow Bugatti old skool combo!

AJ I have put a post under the UK section marked tunnel run, it contains a link that has some more pics of the roadster from diff angles. Cheers Mandeep

HI Mike My friend just had one of the first UK Roadsters delivered a couple of days ago. First time I have really been in a AMV8 and I gotta say it was really nippy through traffic in the congested london streets. It comes in at just under the £100k mark with a few options, so is pricey. He had a AMV8 vantage previously and said they handle very similar. Cheers Mandeep

Had the same issue, a couple of hours with mike pullen at carrara sports and the throttle bodies had been clenaed of the carbon build up. I was told carbon builds up more regularly if city driving, that said... the issue hasn't returned on my car in the last 6 months.