Fresh RM Action Results...Gallardo SL, 02 Murci and 2 newer Murcis...

Hey guys,

 

This JUST happened this evening...at the RM Auction. Note: NOT a dealer wholesale auction.

 

VAG had 4 Lambos for sale. I will do my best to recall the prices etc.

1) 08 G SL. Yellow. All options (as far as I could tell). 'Delivery miles' (translated, new no-miles). Sold for $135k.

2) 09 Gallardo. White. $185.

3) 08 Murci. Balloon white. $225k

4) 08 Murci. Black. $225k.

 

Non VAG car. 02 Murci. Yellow. (gorgeous car btw)...$105.

 

A 04 Ferrari Red/ Tan, 10k, tons of options, 6-speed 360 Spyder sold for $105.

 

Overall prices are clearly down for nearly everything vs last year. No big surprise. Some classic Jags, Healeys, Porsches etc were selling for what may of been 50%+ less than 25 months ago.

 

Damn what prices, I need to move to America!

Hey guys,

 

This JUST happened this evening...at the RM Auction. Note: NOT a dealer wholesale auction.

 

VAG had 4 Lambos for sale. I will do my best to recall the prices etc.

1) 08 G SL. Yellow. All options (as far as I could tell). 'Delivery miles' (translated, new no-miles). Sold for $135k.

2) 09 Gallardo. White. $185.

3) 08 Murci. Balloon white. $225k

4) 08 Murci. Black. $225k.

 

Non VAG car. 02 Murci. Yellow. (gorgeous car btw)...$105.

 

A 04 Ferrari Red/ Tan, 10k, tons of options, 6-speed 360 Spyder sold for $105.

 

Overall prices are clearly down for nearly everything vs last year. No big surprise. Some classic Jags, Healeys, Porsches etc were selling for what may of been 50%+ less than 25 months ago.

 

HREU,

Again, I have been offered on August 11, 2009 from a dealership straight buy (cash) price of 150K on my SL yellow with 839 miles, not fully loaded and that is not even a trade in number. I believe your number but why haven't you pick up a Lamborghini yet. Those price seems to be low enough for someone who is seriously interested in picking up either a Gallardo or Murcielago. If the yellow SL has all the options and new no-miles it would be MSRP 265k+ which is impossible to pick one up for more than 130k discount. Please be kind to show us pictures of your Lamborghini or Ferrari after purchasing one.

Although I am looking for an 06 in the 100-110 range, I think I would have splurged for the SL at that price!

HREU,

Again, I have been offered on August 11, 2009 from a dealership straight buy (cash) price of 150K on my SL yellow with 839 miles, not fully loaded and that is not even a trade in number. I believe your number but why haven't you pick up a Lamborghini yet. Those price seems to be low enough for someone who is seriously interested in picking up either a Gallardo or Murcielago. If the yellow SL has all the options and new no-miles it would be MSRP 265k+ which is impossible to pick one up for more than 130k discount. Please be kind to show us pictures of your Lamborghini or Ferrari after purchasing one.

 

Hey Pokie, check out the RM site, the pre auction estimates were very low! The SL was expected to sell for $125-150k, a new LP for $200-225k!

 

http://www.rmauctions.com/FeatureCars.cfm?...D=r371&fc=0

 

http://www.rmauctions.com/FeatureCars.cfm?...D=r370&fc=0

 

 

The 10% on top puts it at $148.5. Good price for sure but not unbelievable.

Prices sound pretty much exactly what I have heard. Nothing unusual. Wholesale 640's are 190K and dropping.

Related but slightly off the subject...If anyone has some experience with purchasing or selling a Lambo/exotic from RM (especially) "on line" unseen, I'd be interested in your insight.

Prices sound pretty much exactly what I have heard. Nothing unusual. Wholesale 640's are 190K and dropping.

 

Someone else told me that wholesale are going back up, not dropping. Inventories are drying up everywhere, but it will still take a while.

Someone else told me that wholesale are going back up, not dropping. Inventories are drying up everywhere, but it will still take a while.

I hope you are right, drop in prices like these on top is crazy, we are all loosing money

Someone else told me that wholesale are going back up, not dropping. Inventories are drying up everywhere, but it will still take a while.

 

Unfortunately for me, it does look that way and I haven't purchased yet.

With fall fast approaching I highly doubt that prices are going up.

Damn what prices, I need to move to America!

 

 

 

 

Lets see how much the SV drops

I just Checked Manheim and some of thos prices above are bullshit

 

THESE ARE ALL WHOLESALE

Like the SL

 

12/09/08 FAAO Lease $146,000 1,945 Avg ORANGE 10G A No

04/07/09 ARENA Lease $144,000 2,583 Avg GRAY 10G A No

05/28/09 MANHEIM Regular $137,000 2,297 Avg GREY 10G No

07/02/09 RIVRSIDE Factory $153,000 65 Avg ORANGE 10G A No

07/02/09 RIVRSIDE Lease $143,000 2,397 Avg ORANGE 10G P No

 

 

So i call Bullshit because some prices are 10k-20k off

2008 murci's

 

04/23/08 NADE Regular $335,000 121 Avg Black NON N No

03/12/09 RIVRSIDE Lease $253,000 1,259 Avg BLACK 12G P No

06/04/09 RIVRSIDE Factory $270,000 79 Avg BLACK 12G A No

06/09/09 DFW Lease $255,000 1,829 Avg BLACK 12G A No

07/02/09 RIVRSIDE Factory $239,000 27 Avg YELLOW 12G A No

 

 

so how the fu%K are they saying 225k for an LP640

 

 

2009 LP560-4

 

06/04/09 RIVRSIDE Factory $192,000 59 Avg BLACK 10G A No

08/13/09 RIVRSIDE Factory $180,000 123 Avg WHITE 10G A No

 

 

 

2008 murci's

 

04/23/08 NADE Regular $335,000 121 Avg Black NON N No

03/12/09 RIVRSIDE Lease $253,000 1,259 Avg BLACK 12G P No

06/04/09 RIVRSIDE Factory $270,000 79 Avg BLACK 12G A No

06/09/09 DFW Lease $255,000 1,829 Avg BLACK 12G A No

07/02/09 RIVRSIDE Factory $239,000 27 Avg YELLOW 12G A No

 

 

so how the fu%K are they saying 225k for an LP640

 

 

2009 LP560-4

 

06/04/09 RIVRSIDE Factory $192,000 59 Avg BLACK 10G A No

08/13/09 RIVRSIDE Factory $180,000 123 Avg WHITE 10G A No

 

Joey,

Thanks for your information. I think some of these wannabes want you to post manheim numbers so instead they make up their imaginary numbers. Let's not give them the satisfaction by providing them what they are looking for. If I am in the market for a new car I would use PM to acquire auction number and I truly believe these post about fake numbers only slowly damage the market. For those people choose to wait and dream I have only two words "KEEP WAITING" because I heard you can get a great deal the year after next year or 2 or 3... years later.

 

so how the fu%K are they saying 225k for an LP640

 

 

I looked at an 08 LP640 last week in SoCal with 5k miles Roso Vic, price was 229k and they said make an offer. They sold it wholesale to someone in Florida who is now trying to get 259k. Wholesale definitely must be below 200k like Kane suggested.

2008 murci's

 

04/23/08 NADE Regular $335,000 121 Avg Black NON N No

03/12/09 RIVRSIDE Lease $253,000 1,259 Avg BLACK 12G P No

06/04/09 RIVRSIDE Factory $270,000 79 Avg BLACK 12G A No

06/09/09 DFW Lease $255,000 1,829 Avg BLACK 12G A No

07/02/09 RIVRSIDE Factory $239,000 27 Avg YELLOW 12G A No

 

 

so how the fu%K are they saying 225k for an LP640

 

 

2009 LP560-4

 

06/04/09 RIVRSIDE Factory $192,000 59 Avg BLACK 10G A No

08/13/09 RIVRSIDE Factory $180,000 123 Avg WHITE 10G A No

 

As a previous poster said at RM there is a 10% buyers premium. Add that to the hammer price and you are pretty much equal. If you look at the 560 it brought 185k + 10% = $203,500 and another white one with delivery miles @ Manheim sold for 180K so it was kinda high. The rest of the numbers are not too far off and remember these cars sold at no reserve.

 

These were no reserve auction guys. They sold for whatever the highest bidder bid. That is the actual price. As for the buyers premium, there are so many backdoor and backroom dealings, who knows what they actually paid on top of that. Those auctions are like the fcuking wild west when they get rolling. So is Manheim though for that matter.

Hey guys,

 

This JUST happened this evening...at the RM Auction. Note: NOT a dealer wholesale auction.

 

VAG had 4 Lambos for sale. I will do my best to recall the prices etc.

1) 08 G SL. Yellow. All options (as far as I could tell). 'Delivery miles' (translated, new no-miles). Sold for $135k.

2) 09 Gallardo. White. $185.

3) 08 Murci. Balloon white. $225k

4) 08 Murci. Black. $225k.

 

Non VAG car. 02 Murci. Yellow. (gorgeous car btw)...$105.

 

A 04 Ferrari Red/ Tan, 10k, tons of options, 6-speed 360 Spyder sold for $105.

 

Overall prices are clearly down for nearly everything vs last year. No big surprise. Some classic Jags, Healeys, Porsches etc were selling for what may of been 50%+ less than 25 months ago.

The black Murcie had tires that were completely scuffed and cupped from being tracked and misaligned to the point of needing to be replaced and a cracked windshield.

Here's my take... WHO GIVES A SHIT!! I bought my car at full price and am enjoying it to Hell! I could care less about how much I'm losing till the day I sell it, which is definitely not in the foreseeable future. Those of us experienced with exotic resale know that our return is not in the dollars at sell off, but in the time we enjoyed the car; not to mention the friends I've made (priceless), Rock-Star presence it has portrayed, and the events/charities I've had the honor and privilege to attend, helping those who are not as fortunate. Unless you are a F-Fag or Garage Queen holder, then drive the hell out of them and live it up.

 

There's two ways you can walk through this crap economy recession..... frowning on your knees bitching and moaning, or like most of the true members here, with positive "take no prisoners" attitude and perseverance!!

 

As for those auctions... they're another form of gambling IMO, just like the "speculation" ordeal of the Stock Market. I'd trust Ebay pricing more!!

There was also classic 400 GT 2+2 prototype at Gooding&Company auction:

 

Here's my take... WHO GIVES A SHIT!! I bought my car at full price and am enjoying it to Hell! I could care less about how much I'm losing till the day I sell it, which is definitely not in the foreseeable future. Those of us experienced with exotic resale know that our return is not in the dollars at sell off, but in the time we enjoyed the car; not to mention the friends I've made (priceless), Rock-Star presence it has portrayed, and the events/charities I've had the honor and privilege to attend, helping those who are not as fortunate. Unless you are a F-Fag or Garage Queen holder, then drive the hell out of them and live it up.

 

There's two ways you can walk through this crap economy recession..... frowning on your knees bitching and moaning, or like most of the true members here, with positive "take no prisoners" attitude and perseverance!!

 

As for those auctions... they're another form of gambling IMO, just like the "speculation" ordeal of the Stock Market. I'd trust Ebay pricing more!!

Agreed!!

 

The Murcis and the SL were all sold by Volkswagen of America. I believe they were cars formerly associated with LOC. Info on another site mentioned theyd were sold "as-is" with no warranty, although that part of the informaton appears somewhat muddled.

There was also classic 400 GT 2+2 prototype at Gooding&Company auction:

 

 

Fetched 290K US$... serious money ... for a serious car...

would have been my choice for bidding as well... but not up to 300K...