Allan-Herbie Report post Posted June 12, 2013 I disagree. Gallardo drivers especially I think are more about driving, while Aventador owners love the pimp factor as much as if not moreso than performance. A new G shopper will certainly not be knowing not only is an older model Mp4 faster, but I can gaurentee you the new 998TT is going to haul ass. I fully expect mid 2 sec 0 to 60s, mid 10s in the 1/4. Nissan will surely counter with the GTR as well. When the G hits the 458 will already be 4yrs old. I don't think Lambo aiming at a 4yr old model will keep them at the forefront. Lets not forget the forth coming Plastic mess-06 and ZR1. The new G must be ATLEAST as fast as the current Aventador and the Aventador needs a power bump asap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaHostrup Report post Posted June 12, 2013 Yeah! The Prelude was a fun car. A friend had one. Good times!! If the G replacement is coming in 2014, does anyone know when the 458 will be replaced? If it follows the trend of the other V8 models, in about 2-3 years. They are usually in production 6 years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djantlive Report post Posted June 12, 2013 i am glad stick shift will remain. that itself could be the selling factor as the last exotic with a gated shifter. having said that, dual clutch is a welcome in my books as that gives an advantage in 0-60 benchmark. the difference between R8 and G replacements in weight and wheelbase is a nice segmentation too. kind of like Nissan 370z vs Infiniti G37 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assman Report post Posted June 12, 2013 i am glad stick shift will remain. that itself could be the selling factor as the last exotic with a gated shifter. having said that, dual clutch is a welcome in my books as that gives an advantage in 0-60 benchmark. the difference between R8 and G replacements in weight and wheelbase is a nice segmentation too. kind of like Nissan 370z vs Infiniti G37 I seriously doubt that that's accurate. I think there will no more manual gearbox. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaginBull Report post Posted June 12, 2013 I seriously doubt that that's accurate. I think there will no more manual gearbox. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipster Report post Posted June 12, 2013 I didn't realize manual was going to be an option still. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyinFapper Report post Posted June 12, 2013 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ag02M5 Report post Posted June 12, 2013 Needs at least 650 hp to be relevant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPDADDY Report post Posted June 12, 2013 Lambo got it right with the Aventador and I am confident they will get it right with the Gallardo replacement. It will come down to how much emotion the car will stir, as the ultimate performance figures are irrelevant imo, and based on the latest releases, management is on the right track. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBUGKING Report post Posted June 12, 2013 Lambo got it right with the Aventador and I am confident they will get it right with the Gallardo replacement. It will come down to how much emotion the car will stir, as the ultimate performance figures are irrelevant imo, and based on the latest releases, management is on the right track. I am excited for it to be here already. I am definitely getting one. I doubt it will be as fast as the Mclaren from a roll, but I dont really care. 600hp will be fine for starters. I just hope with the dual clutch it is still exciting to drive. I want it to be on another level compared to the 458 and Mclaren as far as overall driving experience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Report post Posted June 12, 2013 Lambo got it right with the Aventador and I am confident they will get it right with the Gallardo replacement. It will come down to how much emotion the car will stir, as the ultimate performance figures are irrelevant imo, and based on the latest releases, management is on the right track. Everything is fast, there are roughly 30+ cars under available with 500hp or more on the market, with some even being station wagons and SUVs...If I had to guess I'd say that same number of 500hp+ cars a decade ago could have been counted on one hand. Lambo and Ferrari above all other mfgs have the responsibility to deliver the most emotionally satisfying experience from behind the wheel, regardless if some poorly selling fax machine is a tick faster to 60 or something from Germany's best scientists achieves a 1mph higher trap speed. The Aventador is a winner in that regard, hopefully they continue to deliver with the next G. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ag02M5 Report post Posted June 12, 2013 Same power and lighter weight would have been alot more exciting than nearly the same weight and a very modest power bump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaginBull Report post Posted June 12, 2013 Lambo got it right with the Aventador and I am confident they will get it right with the Gallardo replacement. It will come down to how much emotion the car will stir, as the ultimate performance figures are irrelevant imo, and based on the latest releases, management is on the right track. I am excited for it to be here already. I am definitely getting one. I doubt it will be as fast as the Mclaren from a roll, but I dont really care. 600hp will be fine for starters. I just hope with the dual clutch it is still exciting to drive. I want it to be on another level compared to the 458 and Mclaren as far as overall driving experience. Spot on Fellas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_chaos Report post Posted June 12, 2013 Chris Harris makes some exceedingly interesting points regarding manual gearbox in the 991 GT3 in his latest vid (Click) which I think are relevant in the Gallardo replacement thread. Are there any concrete pieces of info on the actual engine yet? Still V10? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_chaos Report post Posted June 12, 2013 Chris Harris makes some exceedingly interesting points regarding manual gearbox in the 991 GT3 in his latest vid (Click) which I think are relevant in the Gallardo replacement thread. Are there any concrete pieces of info on the actual engine yet? Still V10? I know it is exceedingly frowned upon to quote your own post but watching the GT3 vid why can't Porsche let their engineers have a little holiday for a few months in Santa ####? Maybe pack a few little toys like that gearbox and the four wheel steer... those wheels. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roncfpz Report post Posted June 12, 2013 Lambo got it right with the Aventador and I am confident they will get it right with the Gallardo replacement. It will come down to how much emotion the car will stir, as the ultimate performance figures are irrelevant imo, and based on the latest releases, management is on the right track. Totally agree. It really comes down to the emotion the car evokes. If it is anything like the emotions evoked from the design cues of the Aventador, Sesto and Veneno it's a hit IMO. As far as performance, if it's "only" 600hp but with the raucous sound of a Lambo V10, I'm good. If it's a DCT but with a certain edge or harshness, I'm good. If it has anywhere near the interior technology of the Aventador, I'm good. If it is "too refined" I think it starts to lose the Lambo edginess which is what defines the brand. I like the somewhat bad boy image the brand evokes dating back to the roots of the company and Ferruccio's dealings with Enzo Ferrari. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPDADDY Report post Posted June 12, 2013 I know it is exceedingly frowned upon to quote your own post but watching the GT3 vid why can't Porsche let their engineers have a little holiday for a few months in Santa ####? Maybe pack a few little toys like that gearbox and the four wheel steer... those wheels. As much as I like Porsche products, all their latest cars, with the exception of the CGt lack soul. They all lack visual excitement and are so clinical that they are actually boring. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qvpower Report post Posted June 12, 2013 As a long time lambo guy, the news that the g replacmeent is retaining the current g platform architecture is disappointing. Why? Because it is really all about who owns Lambo now that is dictating the next gallardo replacement. We have been hearing Lamborghini swearing up and down about carbon fiber this and that and with the sesto with cf tub only to have a g replacement with alu chassis still? Lambos are supposed to be revolutionary game changing in terms of design and performance... the aventador did it with the cf tech, why not the g? Considering the sesto is essentially the blue prints for the next g, why is Lamborghini not using it as the g replacement? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assman Report post Posted June 12, 2013 As a long time lambo guy, the news that the g replacmeent is retaining the current g platform architecture is disappointing. Why? Because it is really all about who owns Lambo now that is dictating the next gallardo replacement. We have been hearing Lamborghini swearing up and down about carbon fiber this and that and with the sesto with cf tub only to have a g replacement with alu chassis still? Lambos are supposed to be revolutionary game changing in terms of design and performance... the aventador did it with the cf tech, why not the g? Considering the sesto is essentially the blue prints for the next g, why is Lamborghini not using it as the g replacement? because as you said, VAG decided to have the architecture shared with the r8 to cut costs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asscelerator Report post Posted June 12, 2013 As a long time lambo guy, the news that the g replacmeent is retaining the current g platform architecture is disappointing. Why? Because it is really all about who owns Lambo now that is dictating the next gallardo replacement. We have been hearing Lamborghini swearing up and down about carbon fiber this and that and with the sesto with cf tub only to have a g replacement with alu chassis still? Lambos are supposed to be revolutionary game changing in terms of design and performance... the aventador did it with the cf tech, why not the g? Considering the sesto is essentially the blue prints for the next g, why is Lamborghini not using it as the g replacement? Cost of design and then of manufacture. Or, the Sesto's chassis wasn't designed for crash loads and is too expensive to manufacture/modify for that. The car needs 620+ hp to differentiate it from the upcoming R8/R8 GT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aventador22 Report post Posted June 12, 2013 If the successor is comparable to evolution between the SV (670hp) to the Aventador (700hp), with the STS / SL (570hp) being the "SV" version of the Gallardo line, I would speculate anywhere between 600-620hp for the Cabrera. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragvorl Report post Posted June 12, 2013 +1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteout Report post Posted June 13, 2013 It better be much lighter and have at least 620bhp. Aventador really needs to bump up to 750bhp. Veneno needs to be in the 850-900bhp range - or some other number that is the equivalent of total lunacy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qvpower Report post Posted June 13, 2013 as comparo lexus lf-a, v-10 engine, not even 4wd and carbon tub... 3400 lb... with 2wd... the new g has its work cut out for it to lose some weight... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortis Report post Posted June 13, 2013 I don't care how fast it is this fanboy is getting one , old "car park" is sold I am working on something even crazier to house the new beast Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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