Active Shooter SO CAL!

Please direct us to the stats that back up this claim.

 

Violent Crime Stats

 

Here's the percentage of total crimes vs population size breakdown:

 

Year Population Total Violent Property Murder Rape Robbery assault Burglary Theft Theft Totals

1960 179,323,175 3,384,200 288,460 3,095,700 9,110 17,190 107,840 154,320 912,100 1,855,400 328,200 5.66%

1961 182,992,000 3,488,000 289,390 3,198,600 8,740 17,220 106,670 156,760 949,600 1,913,000 336,000 5.72%

1962 185,771,000 3,752,200 301,510 3,450,700 8,530 17,550 110,860 164,570 994,300 2,089,600 366,800 6.06%

1963 188,483,000 4,109,500 316,970 3,792,500 8,640 17,650 116,470 174,210 1,086,400 2,297,800 408,300 6.54%

1964 191,141,000 4,564,600 364,220 4,200,400 9,360 21,420 130,390 203,050 1,213,200 2,514,400 472,800 7.16%

1965 193,526,000 4,739,400 387,390 4,352,000 9,960 23,410 138,690 215,330 1,282,500 2,572,600 496,900 7.35%

1966 195,576,000 5,223,500 430,180 4,793,300 11,040 25,820 157,990 235,330 1,410,100 2,822,000 561,200 8.01%

1967 197,457,000 5,903,400 499,930 5,403,500 12,240 27,620 202,910 257,160 1,632,100 3,111,600 659,800 8.97%

1968 199,399,000 6,720,200 595,010 6,125,200 13,800 31,670 262,840 286,700 1,858,900 3,482,700 783,600 10.11%

1969 201,385,000 7,410,900 661,870 6,749,000 14,760 37,170 298,850 311,090 1,981,900 3,888,600 878,500 11.04%

1970 203,235,298 8,098,000 738,820 7,359,200 16,000 37,990 349,860 334,970 2,205,000 4,225,800 928,400 11.95%

1971 206,212,000 8,588,200 816,500 7,771,700 17,780 42,260 387,700 368,760 2,399,300 4,424,200 948,200 12.49%

1972 208,230,000 8,248,800 834,900 7,413,900 18,670 46,850 376,290 393,090 2,375,500 4,151,200 887,200 11.88%

1973 209,851,000 8,718,100 875,910 7,842,200 19,640 51,400 384,220 420,650 2,565,500 4,347,900 928,800 12.46%

1974 211,392,000 10,253,400 974,720 9,278,700 20,710 55,400 442,400 456,210 3,039,200 5,262,500 977,100 14.55%

1975 213,124,000 11,292,400 1,039,710 10,252,700 20,510 56,090 470,500 492,620 3,265,300 5,977,700 1,009,600 15.90%

1976 214,659,000 11,349,700 1,004,210 10,345,500 18,780 57,080 427,810 500,530 3,108,700 6,270,800 966,000 15.86%

1977 216,332,000 10,984,500 1,029,580 9,955,000 19,120 63,500 412,610 534,350 3,071,500 5,905,700 977,700 15.23%

1978 218,059,000 11,209,000 1,085,550 10,123,400 19,560 67,610 426,930 571,460 3,128,300 5,991,000 1,004,100 15.42%

1979 220,099,000 12,249,500 1,208,030 11,041,500 21,460 76,390 480,700 629,480 3,327,700 6,601,000 1,112,800 16.70%

1980 225,349,264 13,408,300 1,344,520 12,063,700 23,040 82,990 565,840 672,650 3,795,200 7,136,900 1,131,700 17.85%

1981 229,146,000 13,423,800 1,361,820 12,061,900 22,520 82,500 592,910 663,900 3,779,700 7,194,400 1,087,800 17.57%

1982 231,534,000 12,974,400 1,322,390 11,652,000 21,010 78,770 553,130 669,480 3,447,100 7,142,500 1,062,400 16.81%

1983 233,981,000 12,108,600 1,258,090 10,850,500 19,310 78,920 506,570 653,290 3,129,900 6,712,800 1,007,900 15.53%

1984 236,158,000 11,881,800 1,273,280 10,608,500 18,690 84,230 485,010 685,350 2,984,400 6,591,900 1,032,200 15.09%

1985 238,740,000 12,431,400 1,328,800 11,102,600 18,980 88,670 497,870 723,250 3,073,300 6,926,400 1,102,900 15.62%

1986 240,132,887 13,211,869 1,489,169 11,722,700 20,613 91,459 542,775 834,322 3,241,410 7,257,153 1,224,137 16.51%

1987 242,282,918 13,508,700 1,483,999 12,024,700 20,096 91,110 517,704 855,088 3,236,184 7,499,900 1,288,674 16.73%

1988 245,807,000 13,923,100 1,566,220 12,356,900 20,680 92,490 542,970 910,090 3,218,100 7,705,900 1,432,900 16.99%

1989 248,239,000 14,251,400 1,646,040 12,605,400 21,500 94,500 578,330 951,710 3,168,200 7,872,400 1,564,800 17.22%

1990 248,709,873 14,475,600 1,820,130 12,655,500 23,440 102,560 639,270 1,054,860 3,073,900 7,945,700 1,635,900 17.46%

1991 252,177,000 14,872,900 1,911,770 12,961,100 24,700 106,590 687,730 1,092,740 3,157,200 8,142,200 1,661,700 17.69%

1992 255,082,000 14,438,200 1,932,270 12,505,900 23,760 109,060 672,480 1,126,970 2,979,900 7,915,200 1,610,800 16.98%

1993 257,908,000 14,144,800 1,926,020 12,218,800 24,530 106,010 659,870 1,135,610 2,834,800 7,820,900 1,563,100 16.45%

1994 260,341,000 13,989,500 1,857,670 12,131,900 23,330 102,220 618,950 1,113,180 2,712,800 7,879,800 1,539,300 16.12%

1995 262,755,000 13,862,700 1,798,790 12,063,900 21,610 97,470 580,510 1,099,210 2,593,800 7,997,700 1,472,400 15.83%

1996 265,228,572 13,493,863 1,688,540 11,805,300 19,650 96,250 535,590 1,037,050 2,506,400 7,904,700 1,394,200 15.26%

1997 267,637,000 13,194,571 1,634,770 11,558,175 18,208 96,153 498,534 1,023,201 2,460,526 7,743,760 1,354,189 14.79%

1998 270,296,000 12,475,634 1,531,044 10,944,590 16,914 93,103 446,625 974,402 2,329,950 7,373,886 1,240,754 13.85%

1999 272,690,813 11,634,378 1,426,044 10,208,334 15,522 89,411 409,371 911,740 2,100,739 6,955,520 1,152,075 12.80%

2000 281,421,906 11,608,072 1,425,486 10,182,586 15,586 90,178 408,016 911,706 2,050,992 6,971,590 1,160,002 12.37%

2001 285,317,559 11,876,669 1,439,480 10,437,480 16,037 90,863 423,557 909,023 2,116,531 7,092,267 1,228,391 12.49%

2002 287,973,924 11,878,954 1,423,677 10,455,277 16,229 95,235 420,806 891,407 2,151,252 7,057,370 1,246,646 12.38%

2003 290,690,788 11,826,538 1,383,676 10,442,862 16,528 93,883 414,235 859,030 2,154,834 7,026,802 1,261,226 12.21%

2004 293,656,842 11,679,474 1,360,088 10,319,386 16,148 95,089 401,470 847,381 2,144,446 6,937,089 1,237,851 11.93%

2005 296,507,061 11,565,499 1,390,745 10,174,754 16,740 94,347 417,438 862,220 2,155,448 6,783,447 1,235,859 11.70%

2006 299,398,484 11,401,511 1,418,043 9,983,568 17,030 92,757 447,403 860,853 2,183,746 6,607,013 1,192,809 11.42%

2007 301,621,157 11,251,828 1,408,337 9,843,481 16,929 90,427 445,125 855,856 2,176,140 6,568,572 1,095,769 11.19%

2008 304,374,846 11,160,543 1,392,628 9,767,915 16,442 90,479 443,574 842,134 2,228,474 6,588,046 958,629 11.00%

2009 307,006,550 10,762,956 1,325,896 9,337,060 15,399 89,241 408,742 812,514 2,203,313 6,338,095 795,652 10.45%

2010 309,330,219 10,363,873 1,251,248 9,112,625 14,772 85,593 369,089 781,844 2,168,457 6,204,601 739,565 10.05%

2011 311,587,816 10,258,774 1,206,031 9,052,743 14,661 84,175 354,772 752,423 2,185,140 6,151,095 716,508 9.88%

2012 313,873,685 10,219,059 1,217,067 9,001,992 14,866 85,141 355,051 762,009 2,109,932 6,168,874 723,186 9.77%

2013 316,497,531 9,850,445 1,199,684 8,650,761 14,319 82,109 345,095 726,575 1,931,835 6,018,632 700,294 9.33%

2014 318,857,056 9,475,816 1,197,987 8,277,829 14,249 84,041 325,802 741,291 1,729,806 5,858,496 689,527 8.91%

 

Sure, but this was a coordinated multi-shooter attack, so the possibility of it being coordinated by a known terrorist organization seems a bit higher than the "lone wolf" style incidents.

 

San Bernardino was an area where the "refugees" were being shipped. Over/under on this being an islamic thing?

 

With multiple shooters it seems unlikely to be a personal grievance type issue.

 

The lack of information is a little startling. Nobody is saying anything and the guys I know with inside info don't know shit.

 

http://www.flightradar24.com/8266504

 

US Dept of Security aircraft (no callsign) circling the scene.

Our homicide rate is at a 20-year low, that much is irrefutable. Gun ownership during the same period is certainly not trending downward. In fact, "Black Friday" set a record for NICS checks in the US.

 

 

That was not my question and probably my fault for not being more clear. I agree crime on the whole is down, I have seen that data. I was specifically referring to spree/mass shootings.

14 Dead, 14 Wounded.

That was not my question and probably my fault for not being more clear. I agree crime on the whole is down, I have seen that data. I was specifically referring to spree/mass shootings.

 

One thing that sticks out to me about spree shootings is that the deadliest school shooting in US history was in 1927. Everyone would guess Columbine, VA Tech, etc. But it was during the Coolidge administration. I'm not sure if that means they're really not that much more common now or not, but it does expand ones view of these things.

One thing that sticks out to me about spree shootings is that the deadliest school shooting in US history was in 1927. Everyone would guess Columbine, VA Tech, etc. But it was during the Coolidge administration. I'm not sure if that means they're really not that much more common now or not, but it does expand ones view of these things.

 

 

I am looking for trends, not at individual events. BTW I am a gun owner.

That was not my question and probably my fault for not being more clear. I agree crime on the whole is down, I have seen that data. I was specifically referring to spree/mass shootings.

 

No worries. I would think that overall the stats would be lower as well, but I'd have to do some hunting. In any case, it's pretty terrible thing.

Loma Linda hospital and a few other places are getting bomb threats.

Heavy gunfire now, near a black SUV in Redlands (

M4 shooting from a heli- from scanner

PD requesting Bearcat and SWAT, one guy down. Gunfire on the police scanner.

Officers down, but sounds minor.

 

 

http://www.vgtv.no/#!/video/121755/dir...-masseskytingen

1 body inside vehicle. One on the ground across the street with his brains blown out.

 

One potentially in a nearby church.

 

17 wounded. 14 dead.

Totally crazy. I used to drive right by that place every morning on my way to work. At one point lived not far from where the SUV is parked now. Still have a lot of friends that work at the closest trauma center not far from the original shooting site.

still alive here too http://abc7.com/live/

Mixed emotions on the third one. Part of me wants him caught alive to figure out why they did it. More of me wants him blown to smithereens so there's no chance he gets to live.

Any photos of the suspects? Everything's censored on my work computer.

I would think That staying in the area of the initial shooting scene and then 4 hours later the SUV is spotted and pursued a mile or so away, could have meant this group had extra plans for the evening?

Very sad. This one doesn't sound like a middle eastern or domestic group to me. If I were a gambling man, I'd bet the drug war in Mexico just crossed the border.

Any photos of the suspects? Everything's censored on my work computer.

This was a while ago Doc. Looks like initial suspect down there in the bottom. I was watching live TV as the helicopter zoomed in on the scene initially before panning away from the body. Looked to me like he was dressed with black tactical vest, over white shirt(?) the gun was lying next to him, looked like auto rifle of some sort(?). SWAT pulled another lifeless person out of the back of the SUV later on. Looked to have desert camo type clothing(?). Hard to see though obviously not close up.

 

Not again!!

Picture of a downed shooter before camera pulled out. somewhat graphic...

 

https://imgur.com/e7FUVft