finally on my 2nd clutch... after 107,894 miles on the 1st one

2008 SL

 

as of 2016-08-23 my car had done 107,894 miles on its original clutch

 

at that point snapshots were reading between 5.4 and 5.7 mm "worn"

 

and the TOB was leaking, leaving me with no 1st gear above 90 deg F,

no 5th gear above 100 F, and occasional engine stalls on 1st-to-2nd --

a bit challenging to drive on my 1k mi road trips to the Sierra Nevada

 

I made it to Concorso... and (with a lovely round of stalls when exiting

the golf course onto the city street where a bunch of folks were filming

cars as they left) back home... and to the shop for the big one, at last!

 

the old clutch still had a tiny bit of life left: the groves where still there

except for a few bald spots on the outer edge -- with road trip drives I

could have made it for another 1-2k mi i.e. to 110k mi total... which is

exactly what the regular E-gear snapshots were predicting for years

 

went with a factory rev F clutch, a new TOB, and a new position sensor

 

the replacement job went smooth, as expected, performed by/at LGLC

 

I was able to watch the installation of the clutch assembly and the TOB

in person, and take lots of good pics/vids in the process -- thumbs up!

 

immediately went on another 1k mile road trip the next weekend...

 

so there you have it -- ~108k mi on my original/1st rev F clutch

 

onward! ...to 200k miles

Wow!!!! Freaking awesome

Love it! Enjoy in good health!

That's very impressive! As much as people complain about clutch life, this is always great to see!

Very cool

That's awesome! Thanks for sharing.

Love it! These cars love to be driven... More wear from short little trips and just moving them around

Amazing!

 

These cars are truly the "Maytag" of all exotics.

That's incredible, how is the rest of the car holding up, any other notable issues? I must admit I am a bit envious of you being able to pile on that many miles in a Lambo, I wish I had that opportunity.

 

> That's incredible, how is the rest of the car holding up, any other notable issues?

 

While still under warranty (factory, then CPO) my car did

eventually see all of the typical, major Gallardo problems:

 

- exhaust CELs (pipes, electrovalves, sensors) $

- oil pump drive shaft (groves sheared off) $$$

- E-gear hose failure (harness replaced) $$$

- coolant pipe clamp (tighten, replaced) $

- engine cover poly delamination (replaced) $$$

 

After the warranty had run out, I then saw the following:

 

- E-gear TCU failure (replaced) $$ -- rare/unusual

- E-gear pipe leak (tighten) $

- E-gear pressure reservoir (replaced: old age) $

- rear diffusor re-coat (exhaust heat/soot damage) $$

- rear side poly delamination (replaced) $$

- minor cam cover oil leak (re-sealed) $

- coolant pipe clamp leak (tighten) $ -- happens every fall

 

And now the clutch replacement, and that leaking TOB --

but those are "consumables" similar to tires or batteries.

Speaking of which, I am still on my original battery... as

well as wiper blades... but both are due soon.

 

Also there were minor things like a lost wheel center cap

and a few broken light bulbs (side markers, brake).

 

In terms of $/mile, over my ~110k mi in ~7 years, it is:

 

$0.26 gas

$0.12 toys (lots of CF, telemetry system)

$0.54 service

$0.01 fluids

$0.15 repairs

$0.27 tires

$0.11 cleaning

$0.10 clear bra

$0.03 tracking

$0.23 insurance

$0.06 registration

= $1.88/mi opex

+ purchase/miles capex for the car's purchase, of course

 

> I must admit I am a bit envious of you being able to pile on that many miles in a Lambo, I wish I had that opportunity.

 

Find a spot 25 miles away. Visit it in the Lambo, every day.

Thank you for the breakdown, it's great how you kept such an accurate account, as for me driving, I do a lot of miles daily but not many I can do in a Lambo.

Was that your oil pump or power steering pump shaft that sheered off? My buddy who bought my old G off of me had the power steering shaft sheer off, sent bits into the front lift system. He did a lot of top speed pulls with the car and said one time he heard a noise and the steering felt weird after. Was a pricy failure... ballpark 10k... otherwise given how he drives the car is rock solid. Gallardos are a lot tougher then people would think

This is very impressive, unfortunately i made the mistake to buy sean clutch @ Hi Tech exotic before I sold my 04 Gallardo and now we are replacing it for an OEM clutch... the new owner only drove the car for 300-500 miles after I sold it to him because "the car it's extremely jerky" 3 shops already recommended him to replace the clutch for an OEM clutch... so that's what we are doing ...

 

Unfortunately I'm not allow to talk about this is another board... unfortunately Rayman didn't even give me the opportunity to tell him about my problem with Hi Tech clutch.

 

I will open a special thread about this problem ones it's solve.

2008 SL

 

as of 2016-08-23 my car had done 107,894 miles on its original clutch

 

at that point snapshots were reading between 5.4 and 5.7 mm "worn"

 

and the TOB was leaking, leaving me with no 1st gear above 90 deg F,

no 5th gear above 100 F, and occasional engine stalls on 1st-to-2nd --

a bit challenging to drive on my 1k mi road trips to the Sierra Nevada

 

I made it to Concorso... and (with a lovely round of stalls when exiting

the golf course onto the city street where a bunch of folks were filming

cars as they left) back home... and to the shop for the big one, at last!

 

the old clutch still had a tiny bit of life left: the groves where still there

except for a few bald spots on the outer edge -- with road trip drives I

could have made it for another 1-2k mi i.e. to 110k mi total... which is

exactly what the regular E-gear snapshots were predicting for years

 

went with a factory rev F clutch, a new TOB, and a new position sensor

 

the replacement job went smooth, as expected, performed by/at LGLC

 

I was able to watch the installation of the clutch assembly and the TOB

in person, and take lots of good pics/vids in the process -- thumbs up!

 

immediately went on another 1k mile road trip the next weekend...

 

so there you have it -- ~108k mi on my original/1st rev F clutch

 

onward! ...to 200k miles

 

Hi Lautlos,

 

fantastic performance with the clutch.

 

You did a lot better than the oem e-gear clutch on a pre-lp Gallardo in Brisbane which didn't quite make 100,000 miles as the clutch welded itself to the flywheel_ eek!

 

I suspect a bit of clutch slip and associated heat caused this.

 

The clutch high temperature warning must have been screaming its head off!!

 

I can imagine the tech in Brisbane saying "Sir, I believe that your clutch may have been slipping and that you may need a new one installed"

 

I look forward to you getting another 100,000 miles out of your new clutch!

 

cheers,

john

Great post and info! Congrats LAUTLOS on DRIVING it!!! I love stories like yours and it goes to prove they are built to be driven and enjoyed!! Looking forward to hearing updates on your next 100,000 miles!

Depending on how you drive your car will vary on the length of your clutch life. Everyone should take a driving lesson from Lautlos and see how he managed to get 108K miles out of his original factory clutch! Glad to hear and be proud as this is the most I have seen on any Lamborghini thus far.

 

 

On this aftermarket clutch issue, I feel the need to add comments where I usually do not get involved. Now that I own Exotic Clutch Technologies through AMH Exotic Parts I have become more aware of the process and whats involved with the whole kevlar process. From what I have dealt with over the last few decades, every aftermarket clutch company I have sold has seemed to have an issue at some point that I am aware of. Not one is perfect and mistakes happen whether its the product, install, or the driver error. Prices seem to be crazy from one place to another and there are reputable companies selling used cores as new rebuilds and not using new OEM units to rebuild at no price fluctuation between the two. Prices have not changed through AMH but for the better and I offer options that these others seem to not let you know of.

 

Sean at HI-Tech, it doesn't seem right for you to bash the other clutch companies when there is an issue with a Spec clutch and not have any problems of your own to hear comments on. You can not go around saying that you have sold so many hundreds of clutches and not have at least one problem over the years. I know first hand of a few over the last twenty whether it be the clutch itself or not. You seem to bash all the other competitors when they had a problem but yet will not stand behind yours when an issue arose. You should have taken care of this situation when it happened instead of placing blame on something else. I completely understand that Leo was happy when first purchasing the clutch- who wouldn't be Its like Christmas morning opening your presents! But it doesn't mean that an issue didn't arise later on and unfortunately the jerky issue became worse as more miles were placed on the car according to everyone involved.

 

Just so you all are aware, I sold Steve an OEM clutch for his car recently to replace the existing kevlar one and pretty much gave it away at my cost to help out as much as I can. I am not sure if it will help now but maybe buying the clutch back Sean, you can see what failed component was and try and resolve the issue with both of them. You have so much of a profit margin on your clutch that you could have given one away to replace it no problem and checked the old to see what the issue was before this got out of control. I deal with the reputable install shop, Leo, and now Steve at this point and have heard the same argument from all of them on this situation.

 

Being a sponsor of both these forums PLEASE stop posting all the past bullshit and move on. There is a lot of people out there with your clutch that are happy and a few that don't, get over it for everyone's sake!