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  1. 1. Who do you support?

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Howard Stern Film, Private Parts

 

 

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Jokes aside- I sincerely hope you guys don't hate me. I certainly don't hate any of you. Even Allen. If it makes any laugh for you, I am laughing at the banter.

 

 

Hey- you're getting page views!

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Well- Sadly- one could only assume that you're threatening to ban me.

 

Again, it's an internet message board about cars where I am participating in a conversation "among friends". If my opposing view is so threatening/offensive to you guys that you feel that you have to ban me, when I have not really thrown any real insults or trolled anyone, rather, was being trolled- Then quite frankly, you're doing me a favor. I certainly hope we're all more mature than that... but if not, hey- there are a few good guys here that I salute on the way out.

 

Shame.. I was totally enjoying some of you guys' points of view.

 

 

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Nope, why ban when I can ridicule every thing you say, come on

wise-ass.

 

You know the moves. You are a self proclaimed

wise-ass.

 

You know everything.

 

But if we are playing the "I know what you are going to do card" you knew we would act this way towards you yet you still raised your views. You knew we were going to do this that and the other. You rate your intelligence higher than you are able to demonstrate it.

Your moves are sign posted. Too easy, you play the woe is me card, you are doing me a favour card, then the suck up card. It is boring. You are beige.

 

Slink into a hole you petulant little brat.

 

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Can somebody tell Hillary to grab another bottle of Chardonnay and crawl back under the rock she emerged from today?

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Nope, why ban when I can ridicule every thing you say, come on

 

You know the moves. You are a self proclaimed

 

You know everything.

 

But if we are playing the "I know what you are going to do card" you knew we would act this way towards you yet you still raised your views. You knew we were going to do this that and the other. You rate your intelligence higher than you are able to demonstrate it.

Your moves are sign posted. Too easy, you play the woe is me card, you are doing me a favour card, then the suck up card. It is boring. You are beige.

 

Slink into a hole you petulant little brat.

 

 

Did someone leave the window open??? Mosquito buzzing around..

 

 

I raised my views because this is a "conversation" and the interaction is interesting. You see= it's okay to disagree with someone. I have no issues with anyone's different view. I'll even listen to it and try to understand it from their side! It's a quality that seems to be more prevalent on the liberal side of things. Tolerance. Understanding. Reasoning. They're all great and why I am still here.

 

Some of you Like Trump, some of you do not. Some of you like dogs, some like cats. It would be a pretty boring place if we all thought the same. Interacting with the people who took the time to share their thoughts respectfully, honestly- has changed my life/view. THose of you who attack me.. lol.. I just respond because I like a good laugh. ;-)

 

Now stop it.. you're making me late. It's beer and music night.. anyone else play guitar? I'm going to go beat on my guitar for a few hours while you sit here and think of new ways to insult me. I'll be back.. just hold your horses. :lol2:

 

 

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These are great vids and I completely understand/agree.

 

There are a few things that were said over and over though. Talking about resentment and jealousy... etc.. (points back at the woe is me claims)

 

That is not my angle. I am not resentful of those who have done well. I'm not resentful of any of you because you all have multiple Lamborghinis. I merely am stating that some things about the world are F'd and those things seem like they could be changed with a bit of effort from everyone.

 

That is completely wishful thinking though. That's like saying, "We could end all war if only people could learn to get along." No society built on the concept of everyone being good has ever worked. They fail, very badly. The only thing you can do is create a society that is designed based off of the knowledge that people act in their own interests and look out for themselves. You can emphasize that people SHOULD be good and act to help others when they can, but the actual structure of the society has to be based on people acting in their own interest.

 

The result is the type of society that functions the least badly out of the alternatives. There is a saying: "Market capitalism works badly because of humans. Socialism works badly because of socialism."

 

Again, you'd have to walk in my shoes to see what I'm talking about. I've already overshared about the obstacles we have overcome.. It shouldn't have to be that hard. This is why I have no issue with paying out tax dollars.. sure, i'd rather keep it- but if my tax dollars go to someone who is down on their luck, trying to 'bust a move' and better themselves (like we were, not ten years ago)- so be it. Money well spent.

 

 

Cheers guys-

 

Plenty of things "shouldn't" have to be hard, but are. That is life. There are various things that could be improved policy-wise to ease things up, but other things are hard just because that is how reality is. Tax dollars that are well-worth the money spent can be fine, the reason many don't like paying taxes is because there can be a lot of waste in the system as well.

 

Keep in mind that for how hard you may have it, I'll bet you have it pretty easy and really nice compared to a majority of the people living on the planet right now and the majority of people who have lived in the past, who had to deal with things like plague, their wife dying in childbirth, their children dying soon after, crop failures, fighting off invading armies/other tribes/etc...I read an article a few years ago about men who get tricked into traveling to Dubai to work to send money home to their families. Their passports get taken away and they become trapped. It was interesting because I was at a lower point in my life and was thinking how any of those guys would kill to have my troubles. There are lots of people who have to get by on less than $1 a day, who have lack of food, proper sanitation, deal with diseases, etc...who (and I am not trying to be mocking) would probably fall over laughing if they saw your life and saw you saying how hard it is.

 

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Did someone leave the window open??? Mosquito buzzing around..

 

 

I raised my views because this is a "conversation" and the interaction is interesting. You see= it's okay to disagree with someone. I have no issues with anyone's different view. I'll even listen to it and try to understand it from their side! It's a quality that seems to be more prevalent on the liberal side of things. Tolerance. Understanding. Reasoning. They're all great and why I am still here.

 

Some of you Like Trump, some of you do not. Some of you like dogs, some like cats. It would be a pretty boring place if we all thought the same. Interacting with the people who took the time to share their thoughts respectfully, honestly- has changed my life/view. THose of you who attack me.. lol.. I just respond because I like a good laugh. ;-)

 

Now stop it.. you're making me late. It's beer and music night.. anyone else play guitar? I'm going to go beat on my guitar for a few hours while you sit here and think of new ways to insult me. I'll be back.. just hold your horses. :lol2:

Sigh.

 

Mosquitos... then I am too busy I am going out card. Shit even Joe Sackey has played that on here and that imbecile likes chewing the yellow crayon because he thinks it tastes of sunshine.

 

If it is an opinion you have fair enough, but some people have opinion that there are unicorns on Mars, should we not correct them? But when someone is so blinkered and entitled that they need to carry on forcing the opinion well... you are going to get ridiculed. You wanted your opinion to be so protected you reported a post to the mods.

No one here is buying for a minute your story. You can kid yourself that is the case. No one is buying it.

 

You will not even come clean. But we know. We all know. Your reputation is tarnished. You have no idea my political standings, you can make a judgement but the important lesson you need to take away tonight is you are a twenty four carat chump.

Nowhere near as smart and enlightened as you proclaim.

 

PS I am using small words and short sentences. This is so you understand them.

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Did someone leave the window open??? Mosquito buzzing around..

 

 

I raised my views because this is a "conversation" and the interaction is interesting. You see= it's okay to disagree with someone. I have no issues with anyone's different view. I'll even listen to it and try to understand it from their side! It's a quality that seems to be more prevalent on the liberal side of things.[ Tolerance. Understanding. Reasoning. They're all great and why I am still here.

 

No, it really isn't. I got banned from Democratic Underground for voicing my opinions in a reasoned fashion. Much (not all) of the Left are incredibly intolerant of any dissent.

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Can somebody tell Hillary to grab another bottle of Chardonnay and crawl back under the rock she emerged from today?

Dear Lord please. If you can find a way to make this happen I'll find a way to make Trump stop tweeting

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Dear Lord please. If you can find a way to make this happen I'll find a way to make Trump stop tweeting

 

 

This x 10,000,000. Wtf makes this bitch think anyone wants her back?

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Side note (regarding a free market economy) - in the case of the Rockefeller monopoly in the 1880's, would other businesses be created/people thrive if the government didn't regulate/intervene? How big do you think Rockefeller would have gotten? Would it crumble like the Roman Empire?

 

Overall, I think free market economies contains aspects that can benefit society, but it can spiral out of control unless controlled/watched (which I suppose wouldn't make it 100% free..).

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Side note (regarding a free market economy) - in the case of the Rockefeller monopoly in the 1880's, would other businesses be created/people thrive if the government didn't regulate/intervene? How big do you think Rockefeller would have gotten? Would it crumble like the Roman Empire?

 

Overall, I think free market economies *do* have some place in society, but can spiral out of control if not controlled or watched.

 

 

♥️♥️♥️ From the McRonalds drive through..

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Side note (regarding a free market economy) - in the case of the Rockefeller monopoly in the 1880's, would other businesses be created/people thrive if the government didn't regulate/intervene? How big do you think Rockefeller would have gotten? Would it crumble like the Roman Empire?

 

"Free market economy" does not mean no government regulation.

 

Overall, I think free market economies *do* have some place in society, but can spiral out of control if not controlled or watched.

 

What do you mean that you think free market economies "do" have "some" place in society? A free-market economy is the only form of economic system that works for a society. For those parts of society where you think the government should provide services, where do you think the government gets the revenues to provide them?

 

As for free market economies spiraling out of control if not controlled or watched, government regulation is needed yes, but the problem is that the GOVERNMENT itself can spiral out of control if not controlled or watched as well. And government regulation meant to prevent or fix problems in the market can often do the opposite. Regulate too much for example and you create an environment ripe for big businesses to take over and get into bed with the government.

 

 

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Jared Kushner, President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and one of the senior advisers in the Trump administration, was seeking a private communications channel with the Kremlin, according to a new report in The Washington Post.

 

Kushner and Russian ambassador Sergei Kislyak spoke of the possibility of coordinating a secret and secure communications channel between the Trump transition team and the Kremlin, the paper said.

 

Kushner suggested the use of Russian diplomatic facilities as a way to shield their pre-inauguration discussions from monitoring, U.S. officials briefed on intelligence reports told The Post.

 

 

Nuthin to see here, movin right along.

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Kushner was running around looking for funding to bailout his family's 666 5th avenue purchase therefore kissing the Russians ass and meeting with the kgb/Putin affiliated banker makes sense.

 

This quote is very insightful regarding the man that the Donald tapped to manage and fix everything...

 

“We’re talking about a guy who isn’t particularly bright or hard-working, doesn’t actually know anything, has bought his way into everything ever (with money he got from his criminal father), who is deeply insecure and obsessed with fame (you don’t buy the NYO, marry Ivanka Trump, or constantly talk about the phone calls you get from celebrities if it’s in your nature to ‘shun the spotlight’), and who is basically a shithead,”

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Kushner was running around looking for funding to bailout his family's 666 5th avenue purchase therefore kissing the Russians ass and meeting with the kgb/Putin affiliated banker makes sense.

 

This quote is very insightful regarding the man that the Donald tapped to manage and fix everything...

 

 

Daddy bought him into Harvard.

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Daddy bought him into Harvard.

 

 

Yup. Just heard him speak, not very inspiring.

 

 

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Yup. Just heard him speak, not very inspiring.

 

And he is the one that proposed the back channel to Russia which he didn't disclose.

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And he is the one that proposed the back channel to Russia which he didn't disclose.

 

 

On another note, the state attorney down here has Bannon dead to rights on voter fraud and tax evasion, why hasn't a democratic female state attorney pulled the trigger on him and why hasn't this story gained more traction in the media?

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Never mind...

 

From 2014 to 2016, Bannon claimed three times on voter forms to live in Florida. At the time, Bannon maintained a California driver’s license, owned property and businesses in that state and spent much of his time outside of Florida, prosecutors found.

 

“This investigation revealed evidence that tends to indicate that the Subject did not intend to or actually reside in Miami-Dade County,” Assistant State Attorney Devon Helfmeyer wrote in a seven-page memo closing out the investigation.

 

The prosecutors also said their decision not to file criminal charges was based on the state’s fuzzy legal definition of “reside.” They said there was “reasonable doubt” that Bannon willfully gave false information about his residency to election officials.

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♥️♥️♥️ From the McRonalds drive through..

 

You might fit in better on FerrariChat, most people here made their own money.

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