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Story of my life. Swore I would never buy another e-gear again, but had to pick up Nick's LP640 that was listed in the classifieds. 2nd time driving the car, after a hard pull, the gear went to N and would not shift to R or 1. Turned off ignition & restart. This time however, R still doesn't engage but upshifting from N would shut off the engine. Tried restarting a few times and same thing happens every time, engine shuts off. No error lights on the dash. Battery reading 13.4V

Nick has been helpful trying to diagnose. Car has a new kevlar clutch. Hope it's not an engine out like my previous Murci. That would suck.

Any thoughts or suggestion? Thx!

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If you hold the right paddle will it stay in first gear? Mine had an issue with the bonnet closed switch that created the same symptoms as you are describing.

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Haha....I just had this issue!

 

I had a problem where the egear would start upshifting by itself. It then went to it would only engage reverse and not first and paddles would not put it back to neutral. Only if you turned off the engine would it go back to neutral but would only engage reverse.

 

I had it towed to the shop and the computer showed upshift paddle error. Meaning as if the paddle was held too long...but I never did that. A few minutes to clear the code and I told the shop to test drive it for 2 weeks. This because of a total egear system harness pull and replace all the modules taking 6 months. Anyways, the computer error clear did the job.

 

I just picked up the car Friday and have put 280 miles on it this weekend....no problem so far.

 

 

 

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Try getting a new battery.

 

Battery is fairly new. Voltage always hold steady at 13.4 Car starts up every time and idles perfectly.

 

If you hold the right paddle will it stay in first gear? Mine had an issue with the bonnet closed switch that created the same symptoms as you are describing.

 

It won't even go into 1st. Made sure bonnet was closed. No warning lights came up on the dash.

 

Haha....I just had this issue!

 

I had a problem where the egear would start upshifting by itself. It then went to it would only engage reverse and not first and paddles would not put it back to neutral. Only if you turned off the engine would it go back to neutral but would only engage reverse.

 

I had it towed to the shop and the computer showed upshift paddle error. Meaning as if the paddle was held too long...but I never did that. A few minutes to clear the code and I told the shop to test drive it for 2 weeks. This because of a total egear system harness pull and replace all the modules taking 6 months. Anyways, the computer error clear did the job.

 

I just picked up the car Friday and have put 280 miles on it this weekend....no problem so far.

 

Mine would even get out of neutral. Hope it's just as simple as clearing a code. Fingers crossed. Glad to hear your's is doing fine though.

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If you hold the right paddle will it stay in first gear? Mine had an issue with the bonnet closed switch that created the same symptoms as you are describing.

 

Couldn't sleep so I was reading this...interesting idea here. Maybe check the front and rear hood/bonnet again by opening and closing them just in case.

 

Try putting the car on ignition only, will it let you go into gear forward or backwards?

Technically the car doesn't have to be on to move into 1st or, r, n. If this is the case then try to start it, I think it will go back to neutral but at least see if this part is functioning.

 

 

 

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i feel your pain-- i had a similar issue with my 430 and while its fixed now the stress of it acting up made me not drive it far from home even after it was fixed for fear it would leave me stranded.

 

hence why i just got a manual murcie

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Couldn't sleep so I was reading this...interesting idea here. Maybe check the front and rear hood/bonnet again by opening and closing them just in case.

 

Try putting the car on ignition only, will it let you go into gear forward or backwards?

Technically the car doesn't have to be on to move into 1st or, r, n. If this is the case then try to start it, I think it will go back to neutral but at least see if this part is functioning.

 

With just ignition only, still would not engage R or 1st.

 

have you checked for codes?

 

Not yet.

 

i feel your pain-- i had a similar issue with my 430 and while its fixed now the stress of it acting up made me not drive it far from home even after it was fixed for fear it would leave me stranded.

 

hence why i just got a manual murcie

 

Yep...definitely does not instill confidence for long distance driving. Makes me miss my STS even more now. Absolutely zero problems with that car.

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This sounds different than the typical e-gear failures. Normally the issue is with the actuator or the accumulator, this almost sounds like it's more related to the clutch. The stalling you initially got is not normal.

 

I think actuator problems normally throw e-gear light and accumulator problems at least start gradually and does not result in 100% shift failure rate, at least not in my case and my friend's LP640 that currently has the same issue.

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This sounds different than the typical e-gear failures. Normally the issue is with the actuator or the accumulator, this almost sounds like it's more related to the clutch. The stalling you initially got is not normal.

 

I think actuator problems normally throw e-gear light and accumulator problems at least start gradually and does not result in 100% shift failure rate, at least not in my case and my friend's LP640 that currently has the same issue.

 

Thx Sprite. Hoping that's the case. Definitely do not want to have to replace either of those.

 

Silly question.....did you check the egear fluid reservoir to see if it was up to level?

 

Haven't had the chance. Car is already in the shop.

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Thx Sprite. Hoping that's the case. Definitely do not want to have to replace either of those.

 

 

 

Haven't had the chance. Car is already in the shop.

 

 

If you are losing fluid, you would know it, my vote is its not this. I would try a relearn of the egear (you need a lambo computer to do this) and I'd do a egear snap to make sure you have enough clutch life. Also check the codes.

 

some simple issue with egear is the paddles 'sticking', egear button going bad, battery issues (I agree this isnt your issue), or speed sensors going bad (there are two in the transmission, or a front bonnet or rear engine hood being left open (but you'd know this issue by the display saying something was open), what someone said is true, you can 'force it' to hold a gear by holding the paddle down, and it will override it kicking out of gear (usually if its a 'something is left open' situation).

 

most people send theirs off to get worked on, but I have personally worked on lp640 egear and murci egear, replaced my own clutch, AND replacement my own transmission. So I'd say I have some decent first hand knowledge of usual suspects.

 

Thanks,

 

Jon

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You're making me have second thoughts about picking up a LP640!

 

 

Thx Sprite. Hoping that's the case. Definitely do not want to have to replace either of those.

 

 

 

Haven't had the chance. Car is already in the shop.

 

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I hate Egear!

 

It's one thing to have to keep a $20K e-gear emergency fund ready to spend at a drop of a hat for imminent egear failures, but it's another thing to constantly risk being stranded by the quirky system that has been designed with 20 single points of failure.

 

That's what keeps me from getting one.

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Short of pulling the engine, Lambo of Dallas could not find anything. They're thinking perhaps it's the actuator not being aligned properly after the clutch change. Don't know enough to comment. Thoughts?

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ugh no fun.. im quite interested to see what they find after its out--

 

got offered an 05 egear murcie yesterday for a decent price - almost too good to pass up so i may have to get it..

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Engine/tranny is coming out :eusa_wall:

 

Will know something by end of the week.

 

Unbelievable!

 

Please let us know. I am so sick of e gear issues. I have put 12k miles on my 06 Murcielago Roadster in 2 years and have spent $17k on so many misc issues....egear ecu, abs ecu, wiring harness trace, paddles assembly for microswitch, 2 brake switches, 4 tows to shop for computer diagnosis etc...

 

I'm thinking of converting it to stick. As much as I want an Aventador, I fear even more issues as that car gets older. I miss my damn Diablo VT Roadster.

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Unbelievable!

 

Please let us know. I am so sick of e gear issues. I have put 12k miles on my 06 Murcielago Roadster in 2 years and have spent $17k on so many misc issues....egear ecu, abs ecu, wiring harness trace, paddles assembly for microswitch, 2 brake switches, 4 tows to shop for computer diagnosis etc...

 

I'm thinking of converting it to stick. As much as I want an Aventador, I fear even more issues as that car gets older. I miss my damn Diablo VT Roadster.

 

Sell it and buy a Murci 6-speed. You won't come out ahead financially, even f you can even get past the finish line (no solid confirmations of anyone making it) of the conversion.

 

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Unbelievable!

 

Please let us know. I am so sick of e gear issues. I have put 12k miles on my 06 Murcielago Roadster in 2 years and have spent $17k on so many misc issues....egear ecu, abs ecu, wiring harness trace, paddles assembly for microswitch, 2 brake switches, 4 tows to shop for computer diagnosis etc...

 

I'm thinking of converting it to stick. As much as I want an Aventador, I fear even more issues as that car gets older. I miss my damn Diablo VT Roadster.

 

The aventador is a different system all together, ISR vs E Gear. I haven't heard of many problems (or nearly as many) with the Aventador ISR as compared to the horror stories of the pre-LP e gear.

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