Shooter in Las Vegas

Is this real? The security guard was the second shooter?

 

https://walkwithtimeamerica.com/news/breaki...-arrested-look/

 

Quick google shows that’s fake news . Nothing on any real news sites .

Referenced cnn and cnn has nothing

 

Chaos. You’re across the pond so you’re not seeing the cluster fcuk that’s been going on here. There HAVE been DAILY briefings by the LVMPD sheriff/under sheriff and FBI. We are getting OFFICIAL reports Daily. And in the last week they have begun to contradict themselves from what they said on day one and now what they said just the day before.

 

The mgm is now publicly and officially contradicting the revised reports as well.

 

 

Additionally the video evidence doesn’t support the current (and quickly reached) official narrative that this was a lone gunman, nothing to see here. Move along...

So there’s plenty of room to question wtf is going on here.

And they will do as the investigation goes on and they learn more but no actual full and final document has been released.

 

All investigations lurch around as another crumb of evidence is dissected.

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Campos is probably in the desert by now.....

So yeah, story is kind of dying and no one really addressing Jesus Campos missing. I am the least bit conspiracy theorist, but everything about all of this is just fcuking weird.

 

I worked in the music business for 10 years and I had many friends at this show that night. The one's I have talked to have said they heard multiple shooters. Different distances.

 

Somebody's hiding some shit, and I have a feeling no ones ever going to find out and this story is going to be buried by other stories.

https://m.liveleak.com/view?i=e88_1507253728

 

Has anyone performed an analysis to see if individuals are, unfortunately, being impacted by bullets during each set of gun fire for the two different gun fire sounds? Someone could probably sync up and overlay all the various videos to do the analysis. The results from this could probably provide evidence to answer questions.

Has anyone performed an analysis to see if individuals are, unfortunately, being impacted by bullets during each set of gun fire for the two different gun fire sounds? Someone could probably sync up and overlay all the various videos to do the analysis. The results from this could probably provide evidence to answer questions.

 

 

Not exactly sure about the question. But if it’s about the noise being different if the bullets were hitting people instead of asphalt, it doesn’t really matter.

 

 

The bullets used (5.56 and possibly 7.62) will pass right through soft human tissue at the distances involved. They will then continue on the same trajectory (45 degrees down) and strike the asphalt unabated making the high frequency impact sounds. If instead the bullet hits bone, there will be a similar high frequency impact noise.

Not exactly sure about the question. But if it’s about the noise being different if the bullets were hitting people instead of asphalt, it doesn’t really matter.

 

 

The bullets used (5.56 and possibly 7.62) will pass right through soft human tissue at the distances involved. They will then continue on the same trajectory (45 degrees down) and strike the asphalt unabated making the high frequency impact sounds. If instead the bullet hits bone, there will be a similar high frequency impact noise.

 

To clarify ... was the two different gun fire sounds in the video a result of: (1) two shooters, (2) echos off the buildings, (3) turning around and shooting through the door, (4) shooting from inside the window versus outside the window, (5) shooting from one window versus the other window, etc. Some of the videos show individuals being impacted by bullets per descriptions and titles of videos (I haven't watched them). You can definitely hear two different gun firing sounds ... one is loud ... one is quiet. If you were to overlay and sync all the various videos people have posted, would it be possible to determine if people were being impacted by bullets during both gun firing sounds? If yes, then that would rule out scenarios (2) and (3).

 

Does that clarify what I was thinking?

 

 

To clarify ... was the two different gun fire sounds in the video a result of: (1) two shooters, (2) echos off the buildings, (3) turning around and shooting through the door, (4) shooting from inside the window versus outside the window, (5) shooting from one window versus the other window, etc. Some of the videos show individuals being impacted by bullets per descriptions and titles of videos (I haven't watched them). You can definitely hear two different gun firing sounds ... one is loud ... one is quiet. If you were to overlay and sync all the various videos people have posted, would it be possible to determine if people were being impacted by bullets during both gun firing sounds? If yes, then that would rule out scenarios (2) and (3).

 

Does that clarify what I was thinking?

 

 

1. I personally believe based on several factors that it’s two shooters.

 

2. It COULD be some VERY fcuking weird echoes. After all this is a one off event in one of the weirdest acoustical landscapes ever created (there’s a fcuking pyramid next door).

 

3. Based on the sounds and wave form analysis of the particular video I posted, we do not believe that him changing direction (whether it be turning back towards the hallway or even a slight shift of the the barrel s few degrees) because of the timing implications. For him to move the gun that drastically that fast would require him to be the Flash. Also, if we believe that the gun being fired has a “bump stock” which requires a balancing act between the shoulder and trigger finger to maintain “automatic fire” even the slightest movements SHOULD result in a pause in the gunfire to rebalance. That doesn’t happen.

 

4. A slight shif of the muzzle from inside to outside the window, Is a possible explanation but based on 3 above and the “sniper perches”/tripods used, also very unlikely.

 

5. Shooting from one window versus the other would certainly explain the noise difference. But. Considering that the two windows were in seperate rooms and about 5-10 yards apart, but there was NO BREAK in the shots fired, that necessitates a second shooter.

 

6. Could a “Metanalysis” of ALL the video evidence be compiled? Sure. Would it answer the questions posed? No way to know. We do t know how many videos overlap or if there are even enough videos to create a single complete replay of the entire event. So we can’t know what such an analysis would reveal unless it’s done.

1. I personally believe based on several factors that it’s two shooters.

 

2. It COULD be some VERY fcuking weird echoes. After all this is a one off event in one of the weirdest acoustical landscapes ever created (there’s a fcuking pyramid next door).

 

3. Based on the sounds and wave form analysis of the particular video I posted, we do not believe that him changing direction (whether it be turning back towards the hallway or even a slight shift of the the barrel s few degrees) because of the timing implications. For him to move the gun that drastically that fast would require him to be the Flash. Also, if we believe that the gun being fired has a “bump stock” which requires a balancing act between the shoulder and trigger finger to maintain “automatic fire” even the slightest movements SHOULD result in a pause in the gunfire to rebalance. That doesn’t happen.

 

4. A slight shif of the muzzle from inside to outside the window, Is a possible explanation but based on 3 above and the “sniper perches”/tripods used, also very unlikely.

 

5. Shooting from one window versus the other would certainly explain the noise difference. But. Considering that the two windows were in seperate rooms and about 5-10 yards apart, but there was NO BREAK in the shots fired, that necessitates a second shooter.

 

That's good logic to me.

 

6. Could a “Metanalysis” of ALL the video evidence be compiled? Sure. Would it answer the questions posed? No way to know. We do t know how many videos overlap or if there are even enough videos to create a single complete replay of the entire event. So we can’t know what such an analysis would reveal unless it’s done.

 

I guess this is what I am really asking ... has anyone done or attempted a 'metanalysis' of all the posted videos?

That's good logic to me.

 

 

 

I guess this is what I am really asking ... has anyone done or attempted a 'metanalysis' of all the posted videos?

 

 

Just FINDING all the videos is daunting. The authorities have a bunch we don’t

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/jesus-cam...CWGw?li=BBnb4R7

 

At least the media picked up on this as well

And he’s found....

Ellen show

And he’s found....

Ellen show

 

"vanishes" so he can peacefully negotiate LOL

This keeps getting weirder and weirder.

"vanishes" so he can peacefully negotiate LOL

 

This is chance to cash in big. Can’t really blame him.

This is chance to cash in big. Can’t really blame him.

 

Not blaming, it’s milking time.

Reasons why we may be suspicious about the Vegas Shooting :

 

1) Multiple conflicting timelines

2) No release of video surveillance film footage

3) Conflicting stories and disapperance / reappearance of Jesus Campos

4) Upon return of Campos - who refused interviews with CNNNBCBBCCBS last minute - he does interview wih ELLEN DEGENERES!!!!!!???? - whose show is connected with MGM........and even has a slot machine designed after her in their casinos???

5) No clear indication of which weapons were used, how much ammo used etc

6) Crime scene pics dont seem to answer most important questions

 

All I can say is Hmmmmmmm :eusa_think:

So who thinks this story is over and onto the next and probably won't hear anything else?

So who thinks this story is over and onto the next and probably won't hear anything else?

 

I don't have any confidence left in getting info.

I don't have any confidence left in getting info.

 

There is obviously shit being withheld for whatever reason and that fcuking interview with Jesus Campos on Ellen was so fcuking off and weird, and almost felt like a push for 'public closure' on the whole thing.

Reasons why we may be suspicious about the Vegas Shooting :

 

1) Multiple conflicting timelines

2) No release of video surveillance film footage

3) Conflicting stories and disapperance / reappearance of Jesus Campos

4) Upon return of Campos - who refused interviews with CNNNBCBBCCBS last minute - he does interview wih ELLEN DEGENERES!!!!!!???? - whose show is connected with MGM........and even has a slot machine designed after her in their casinos???

5) No clear indication of which weapons were used, how much ammo used etc

6) Crime scene pics dont seem to answer most important questions

 

All I can say is Hmmmmmmm :eusa_think:

ELLENFRKNDEGENERES!!!!!!????

ISIS has doubled down on claims of responsibility. Paddock was member.........any angle there???

ISIS has doubled down on claims of responsibility. Paddock was member.........any angle there???

 

You find a gerbil which got killed in unknown circumstances I am pretty sure ISIS will claim responsibility.