DarkShark
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Don't you guys think...er, let me start over:
You know what I think? I think that a supercar without a wing is like an arrow without feathers (a brief pause for effect), an airplane without a tail (another brief pause), or a rocket without fins. Even if the wing is only decorative, I think it seems to "finish" the body with a flair. Ok, not every wing looks great but some really do. Like the wing on the Diablo 6.0. Doesn't that wing look GREAT? And some wings even do some good.
What say you?
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Absolutely! I totally understand. Let me start by saying I think all the cars I am about to talk about are amazing. I do not think they are bad because they have double clutch, they are just not for me.
I have looked in to buying a 458 and FF and I have driven the MP4 and Porsche with PDK.
I found the Porsche to be the most fun. But, I do not like the way Porsches look on the inside or out.
The Mclaren felt the fastest but I do not care for the stylings interior or exterior and the comfort made me bored. Unbelievable car if performance and comfort are your main goals. It has no rival for that mix. It doesn't feel like an event to drive. It is more calm and easy then my Ferrari 612.
The 458 was very exciting for the first few minutes then when I switched it in to race mode and I didn't get what I expected, I looked at my dealer and said, "What?" He agreed. He prefers the 430. The 458 has more in the looks department, but the touchy throttle and lack of kick was annoying to me. I felt like, "wow, I am going fast, this thing is definitely amazing, but my playstation vibrating controller kicks me harder when I play a video game than this." I felt like I was waiting for it to feel as exciting as it looks from the cockpit or the outside.
I tried the FF and almost bought it as a family car for my wife to drive. For the record, I have one infant child and I bought a Ferrari 612 as my family car. I love it for that purpose. It has been great. The FF was my favorite double clutch because it actually makes sense to me. A 4 wheel drive family car that my wife can even drive. It's performance is unreal for a 4 seater with trunk space. It is ugly as all hell and just as bad in person. But, for family duties, I would get one for my wife... she hated the way it looked and said no thanks. I cannot fault her. It would be much better if it had 4 doors too. But, if she said yes it would be in my garage right now next to the 612 (which I like much better for me even though it is no where near the car technically).
All these cars are fast and perform well IMO. I don't care about that cause to me they are all beyond amazing. I like a family car to have a little flair like my 612 (I feel the shifts in a good way, but not a crazy Aventador way). I like my 2 seater sports cars to be very different then anything I would drive that would be a "normal" car. The 458 and MP4 are so civilized that to me they have the performance but they feel like they could be made by Mercedes or Toyota or BMW, etc. They do not posses a feeling that I would consider their own unique feel.
I do not drive my Aventador every day. I drive it once or twice every week or two usually for 150-200 miles a trip. If the weather is nice I might drive my Gallardo 5 days a week. They are different types of cars for different types of driving. The Aventador is not the type of car that the 458 and McLaren are. It is an event. They are more of a friendly easy to drive everywhere sports car. Like the Gallardo is. But I still like the feel of the Gallardo better. It bites harder and when I am putting my foot down it feels like it is a bit insane. I like that. I am not a fan of supercars that feel like regular cars with a tune and some good science. And if 50 milisecond shifts are too slow for someone they are just being an idiot. If someone wants to feel nothing and fly around in smooth sports car I cannot fault them. It just isn't my idea of fun. The feel of the shift should be part of the brand's style and I wish they all had their own feel. Seamless is not a feel to me.
Yea Man, you said it. "The Aventador is an event". I just bought an LP550-2 that I chose over the MP4-12C for the same reason. "It bites harder and it feels a bit insane". Personally I'm just not into a gentleman's sports car right now. I want to be stunned with the performance every time I ride a bull.
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anyone read this?
Ouch. l dug the Aventador right out of the box. Ok, she needs some work but then, it's a first generation car. My plan would be to wait until they've wrung out all the issues before I bought a new one. You want light and nimble? Try a LP550-2 Balboni (what a great man) or whatever they are planning for the Sesto Elemento. There is nothing wrong with Lamborghini, it's people or it's current line up as I see it.
The Aventador is supposed to be teeth shattering. It's a bull, not a horse or a cheetah. It's not a gentleman's sports car, it's a fcuking wild-ass bull and it's designed to push your senses to the brink.
I like bull riding and I wouldn't have it any other way.
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Chinese farmer builds Lamborghini from scrap metal.
Wang Jian, a young Chinese farmer who worked at a garage for more than a decade, built a replica of Lamborghini Reventon with a second-hand Nissan and Santana. This self-made roadster cost Wang around 60,000 RMB ($9,450) and can reach a maximum speed of 160mph, according to local media's reports.
In his own special way, this guy has worked his little heart out, just trying to build his machine into a real Lamborghini. Everyone one else pictured in this thread is heading in the opposite direction. Bravo Wang Jian.
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Congrats. Got one myself. Love it!
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Just bought a 2012 LP550-2 Gallardo and learned that the CD for the GPS navigation system must always be in the drive. What's up with that? Every nav I've ever encountered from the Garmin portable in my SUV to the one in my wife's Lexus has enough internal memory to store the entire region's map and data. Why does the Lambo system rely on a f#$%ing disc? This means I can't play a music CD and use the GPS. I'll survive on MP3's off my USB drive but still.....
Does this sound a little arcane to you guys? Why would Audi (I assume it's their system) create such a slightly backwards kind of design?
Thanks,
Doug
2012 LP550-2 Gallardo BiColore
2004 Ferrari 360 Modena F1 (past)
1995 Lotus Esprit S4 (past)
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I'd like an Owners Title (but don't know what the benefit is, ha!)
Doug
2012 LP550-2 Gallardo Bicolore
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Congrats!
Any particular reason why you picked a 550-2 over a 560-4?
When I asked Jaclyn at MMC how she was going to get me into a Lambo sooner than later she told me to look over my shoulder and there it was. And the color. And the price. And the demo/test drive. And the wheel spin/chirp. And the phase of the moon.
Doug
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Guys,
You might remember me. I was the Ferrari owner who lusted for a Lamborghini which I thought was going to be a Diablo. Then it was going to be a Aventador in the distant future. On one thread someone told me to give it up and come over to the dark side. That did it, I decided that I couldn't wait for the future.
So, I went out and picked up a 2012 LP550-2 Gallardo Bicolore last Friday. It wasn't easy parting with the F 360 or the $ but WTF, you've got to live it up while you are above ground. A shout out to Jaclyn at Manhattan Motorcars, who treated me right from beginning to end. And Paul who knocked my sunglasses clear off my head with a short burst of acceleration when the light turned green during the demo/test drive. No time to take photos yet so here's one from the showroom. It's Blu Caelum/Nero Noctis.
First thing it got was a clear bra by ClearBraNJ.com What a great crew of motivated experts. Highly recommended. Then I took it out for an "Italian Tune Up" and wow, F#%kin awesome.
More photos and stories to follow...
Doug
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A couple of weekends ago I had the chance to drive an Aventador and it was everything I thought it would be except for one little dissapointment. But before I get into the details, I'd just like to give a shout out to Jaclyn at Manhattan Motorcars in New York City. She's been great.
The flight plan called for Jaclyn and I to take an acelerated trip up the West Side Highway and then a return with me driving the whole time. I think we were out for more than a half hour. As you can imagine, NYC is really no place for a serious test drive but you take what you can get. When I'm ready to lay down a deposit, I'll ask for a better route. Anyway, from almost the minute we left MMC, the attention from on lookers was incredible. At every light I had to talk to somebody. One guy even jumped out of his car, ran in front of us to get a good photo. Enough of that but suffice to say, she attracts a lot of attention. So does the car.
Anyhow, we're stopped at a light, it turns green and the modest import next to me drives away. I step on the gas, just slightly and nothing happens. After what seems like 2 seconds (actually something less than .5 sec), the Aventador smoothly leaps forward and I think that within about 1/4 car length the clutch was fully engaged. Before we got even a glimpse of tail lights on that sputtering import, we flew past him, accelerating rapidly. And I wasn't pushing it at all. The next thing that hit me was the sound of the stock exhaust which sounds really good. I mean really good. Very aggressive and loud when you hit the gas, fairly quiet from the inside when you're pacing with traffic. When traffic openned up a little, I got a chance to feel the accelleration that this machine is capable of. Awesome to say the least.
Curiously, the Aventador felt refined in a way that no other Lamborghini I've driven feels like. In fact, the handling felt more like my Ferrari 360 than I expected. Unfortunately there was no way of truely testing the handling of this car on city streets so I'll have to wait for that. I tried the different performance modes and immediately found that I preffered corsa, mostly because it felt more like riding a bull and thats what's expected from a Lamborghini. I was also impressed by the fit and finish as well as the feel of all the buttons, switches and encoder knobs. But there was one dissappointing item that I hope to see banished in models one to two years hence. I hope Lamborghini/Audi engineers are paying attention when I say this. For a car that is this awesome, the digital instrument display of RPM, MPH, temps and pressures really was a let down. It's kind of cartoon like with no dimentionality and absolutely no sense of something truely exotic. It seemed cluttered simply because everything appeared the same, in the same plane, against the same backdrop. I've seen photos of the Reventon's displays and they are much more of what I expected to see in the Aventador. Exotic, maybe from a stealth jet and surely not from this world. With this display I was reminded of the economy of a single LCD screen with graphics. And economy is not a word I like to associate with this car. Gawd, even my daily driver has a better display. Lexus combined computer controlled stepper motors with needles and illuminated numbers slightly recessed which is clean, clear and readable in your periferal vision. In the Aventador, I felt like my eyes had to pick through the digital scenery to find the data. forget the peripheral glimpse until you get used to it. And one more thing. Both the instrument cluster and the multifunction display in the center console are polorized, so beware for those of you who wear sun glasses. It's not a problem for the instrument cluster but if you tip your head just 20˚ when looking over to see the other display, everything disappears. Ah well, there's always something but I will say that if you can ignore the display the rest of this machine is out of this world.
Doug
2004 Ferrari 360F1 (present)
1995 Lotus Esprit S4 (former)
2014 Lamborghini Aventador (future)
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Megan would squirt
Forget the wheels, who's Megan?
Ok, ok, nice wheels but the sidewalls are too thin for my roads.
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Or, for a similar price, you could have.......
That is one beautiful machine you got there. But don't tempt me, I only have a one car garage.
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Haven't been here for awhile and just came across my own thread. You guys are funny. And, I still wish I could be on the "Dark Side" with you. I know you've questioned my faith but believe me, I can't get the Diablo out of my mind. In the mean time, my Ferrari is seriously nice. She rides like a fine stallion and after a PPI I found that the car is in perfect shape. The 6.0 I wanted was going to be over $60 kilobucks more and I was struggling with that. Someday I'm gonna eventually git me one of these bulls but in the mean time, here's a photo of the prancing horsey.
Doug
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Thanks to all for your advice. Huskerbill, if I had room for two cars I would have definitely kept the Esprit but alas......
In any case, this month saw a complete reversal of my mindset. My focus was a 6.0 but ultimately it was too expensive and the idea of looming clutch work was a load on my shoulders. So, I ended up driving a low milage Ferrari 360 Modena and I must say, it was really nice. So, I bought it. For now I'm out of running for a Lamborghini but one day, when I can, I'll be driving one of these beautiful machines.
Regards,
Doug
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Gents,
I'm currently tetering on the edge of buying a 6.0 and I have a few questions. Now, I know this is going to be like asking the fox to guard the hen house but here goes:
Low milage 2001 6.0's are very expensive (for me anyway). They are big and heavy (and beautiful). But, with all the hot, new, nimble, high performance cars coming out these days, will this car become a "hard sell" only a couple of years down the line? Am I going to lose $10K in value per year even if I keep her in pristine shape? Be honest.
I've heard that the 6.0 is the most reliable of all the Diablos (on average). Of course I'll do a pre sale inspection but after I buy it, I'll not be too happy being saddled with any big expenses for a couple of years. What should I look out for? Are the front shocks that bad? Clutch (how can I ever hope to test this before the purchase)? Other engine or transmission issues? ECU? Tires or rims? Brakes?
Is it a better idea to save some extra money and wait for an 05 or 06 Murcielago instead? Are they more nimble and are they reliable (or is this a question for the Murci group)?
I know that you guys all love your Diablos and believe me, I'm crazy for the look and feel of this machine. But, it's going to be a huge leap for me and I don't want to leave any stones unturned.
Thanks very much in advance,
Doug
Currently driving a pristine Lotus Esprit S4 w/ V8 wing and many other upgrades.
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Some people will love it, some will not.
I'm in the camp that you ought to try it and repaint them if you don't like them. Just before I sold my Ferrari 360, I considered painting my plenums yellow (instead of the stock red color). They would have matched the body. Before I could try it, I saw the LP-550 and just had to have it (good bye Ferrari).
Food for thought: The plenums are textured and a few layers of paint might diminish this original "look". I'd be concerned about that. The other thing that would bother me is the sting of other's who have said that you might be perceived as "trying too hard". Those words might ring in your ears every time you looked at your engine, even if you did like them that way. And let me speak of another angle (just giving you alternate ways of thinking about it):
This engine has the "matt finish look" of aluminum, highlighted with the semi gloss black plenums and hoses, punctuated with the shimmer of stainless steel bolts, tubes and of course, the Lamborghini emblems. It's a comprehensive yet understated theme and a beautiful one at that.
Good luck either way and please photo document your process for us!