ArytonS
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I've sold a few cars on BaT (Miata Turbo, Ferrari 456 GTM, 2001 BMW M5), won one, and have chatted w/ Randy a number of times (cofounder). I did a lot of due diligence on the business itself when a PE fund contacted me to help diligence the company.
I think you've just got to know the audience you're participating with, and the benefits of going with such a platform. A poorly documented car gets slaughtered, Porsche people are far and away the most annoying commenters, and generally high participation and documentation gets good results.
There's fewer and fewer "deals" but thats simply because BaT has literally all the volume of online classic car buyers and so its now a fairly efficient market. I missed out on 2 Diablos, a 512TR, but eventually found a car at an overseas auction just by being patient.
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I've seen the 2003 Murcielagos for 160-220 depending on overall condition. These 6 speeds are worth hanging no to though!
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Yes all 20 were USA only! Look like my car was made summer of 1997 and had its original owner living in an Italian village near Naples. Car made it to its long term storage/workshop and is supposedly in great shape.
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8 hours ago, VCR said:
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8 hours ago, VCR said:Congrats and welcome to the Diablo SV club! Your car looks great!
D-SV, Monterey Edition here.
Production Date: 06-1998
Mind sharing the last 4 digits of the VIN? I would imagine all Monterey editions are late '98's (this is a very very late production it looks!)
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Thanks! A dream come true. I lost out at auction on a 512TR with 10k miles earlier this year that went for $226k, and then felt gunshy about bidding on a US based '91 with 45k miles that sold for $130k. Happy to spend a little more and get a great spec. I'm sure it needs some work from the low mileage its done (3k km in 9 years), but UK labor rates seem to be far more reasonable than some USA specialists.
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If anyone else on here has a Diablo SV - can they provide the production date? It seems the factory didn't stamp this onto EU cars and determines when the car is eligible for transport. Looking for VINs just before and just after VIN #900
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This is the car:
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I ended up buying an EU Spec 1998 Diablo SV. Need to wait some time (2022) before it can be imported, but getting it all sorted out in the UK, and paid far less than USA prices ($158k USD) for what appears to be a very nice car (good driver, not a concourse car).
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I bought an EU Spec Diablo SV (when do I get an owner badge)?
I intend to bring the car into Canada, but need a few documents for the official import process. Does anyone know how to get in touch with the appropriate people at Lamborghini who can tell me the (a) Date of production (b) Model Year of the vehicle (c) original build.
I understand this was a strange time for Lamborghini as a company - so hopefully they can provide some supporting documentation to ease the process!
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- Chris
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Yeah they don't exist - but other people claiming to be buying would have you believe it!
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Was the 95 VT the RHD example in the UK? I was watching that auction carefully, very well documented car I was thinking of importing but it went on the high side of my expectations. I know the 94/95 VT's are not as fast as later models, but I actually care less about this. I think the upgrades the cars had (power steering, no double decker gauge cluster) offset some of the performance negatives so I'm indifferent between models. I care more about condition.
A 96 2WD Blue car sold close to 170k recently with 30k miles. Very rare spec, and appeared to be in good shape. Then you also have examples like Bobby Rahals '91 Black car selling for $115k.
So strange to me to figure out what a "true price" is on these classics. Anyone buying claims they're 100k and anyone selling says 200k.
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Can anyone inform me what actual transaction prices are for early Diablos? I see cars listed for strange prices and then see auction results are quite different. From Bring-A-Trailer, RM, Coys, and other auction houses the transaction prices seem lower than almost any active listing by a good margin. Even the white 91' on BaT sold almost $45k below its online asking price.
It seems:
91-93's 2WD cars are selling for $115-145k ish depending on history, miles, and condition.
93-95 VT's seem to be more like $125 - 160k ish depending on history, miles, condition.
Anyone have any recent experience to suggest otherwise?
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Its a VT '96. I've decided I'd prefer a 2WD car, and like the early cars.
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Great vid - I had no idea how much lighter the early cars truly are.
- Chris
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I have 2 poorly working eyes apparently and a lot of excess feet.
It looked average-ish. Curious what you found so appalling, this is the first Diablo I've seen FYI.
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What indicated Steaming Hot Pile? I thought it was flawed (new transmission for example), but I've got a different definition of "pile". Your little girl feet may fit fine, but I had trouble in there!
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Here's the cars I was taking a peek at:
Looked in OK condition, left bank CEL was on after starting up the car
And here's the 512TR I took a peek at:
The 512TR had tons of service records and history. The Diablo almost nothing except that it was once owned by Jerry Rice (I don't care). My feet could barely fit in Diablo pedal box, I've got size 15 shoes.
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Got to see both today, both striking cars in their own way.
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Looking into buying an early 1991 Diablo or 1992 Ferrari 512TR (Poster Cars of my childhood).
I want a charismatic classic, but I've got a few questions for those that have owned one or both vehicles.
1. Diablo Maintenance and Parts Availability:
- What sort of maintenance costs are to be expected for 1-2.5k/year?
- Are there "unobtainium" parts that could put the car out of service for months at a time. I've heard there are no replacement ECU's remaining as an example.
- What are common break points and things to watch out for?
- How is independent service support?
- The Ferrari seems to have cascading "belts out" services every 5 years, where an $8-10k job finds 8k worth of other work each time. I know the Diablo has chains, but any other similar "replace everything while we're here" maintenance intervals (I've heard clutch job is large).
2. How is the car to actually drive?
- I enjoy driving my cars. I've got a Noble M400 that I rack up tons of miles on now because its dynamically brilliant. I don't really care about being that comfortable more than the car being an event.
- I'm looking for "an experience", I don't believe any road car is fast on the street (a $30k Radical will spank any modern car on track and you can drive it with reckless abondon that you can't when you've spent 100-200k).
- Any owners local to San Francisco Bay Area I could buy a beer/coffee in exchange for seeing their car and talking about ownership?
3. What are people actually paying for early Diablos?
- List prices are all over the map
- Auction results (like the 30k Rahal car) seem to be about $110-150k depending on mileage. Who has bought one recently?
Any advice much appreciated!
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I had a Noble M400 for a while. Really liked the car but never tracked it. You will have an issue with heat soaking the intercooler. Also, like someone else said, don’t crash it. Not that a Radical would fare much better in a crash.
Got any pics?
Here's some exterior shots:
Only downside to the green is shows dirt so easily, but otherwise love the british-ness of it. I TIG welded my own exhaust for the car. Not worries about heat-soak intercooler, removal of the license plate and some ducting to isolate the low pressure area behind the car help draw air out. Car also has upgraded IC
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Noble seemed better for me given:
- I could still street-drive and enjoy
- Its more forgiving to drive
- It was more reasonable stepping stone between track car and downforce car
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- Chris
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Bought a Noble M12 track toy after growing faster than my track-day miata would take me. I've had it about a year, just installed larger turbos, exhaust, fuel system and had it tuned by resident noble expert.
Car dynoed at 484 whp, 422 lb ft of torque, and weighed in at 2,360 lbs with a full tank and full of fluids. Makes everything else feel heavy. Can post sheet if I get my old photo-hosting accounts back up.
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Great friend, he can just be off-putting on the first meeting so I can understand why someone might rush to judgement. Thats why I mentioned it! He's a good guy, and a good customer once you get through a layer, but everyone's different. If I owned a random business and didn't know him, I'd probably rush to the same judgement.
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Hey guys -
Have a good friend who wants a TT on his 2007 G spyder e-gear. Can anyone PM details (or Jason himself) to make the intro?
FYI, he's 28 (and admittedly slightly annoying at first) but one of the other TT makers quickly dismissed him. I had a good friend who used to work at Heffner (George) and had nothing but awesome things to say, so figured that was a better place to start.
- Chris
Transaction prices for Early Diablos?
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A few updates on my SV. Car got serviced in the UK at Universal Classic Cars (where its being stored). Total bill came out to a little over $5k USD with VAT and that includes:
- Respray on bumper underside
- All new tires
- Major service (all new fluids, plugs, etc.)
- Fixing sticking handbrake cable
- Checking valve clearance (in spec)
- Fixing passenger side window and getting a new pass switch
The shop was servicing a Diablo GT at the same time and captured some cool photos. Very reasonable rates and the guys were very helpful. They seem to treat the exotics in their possession like a day-care more than a car storage hahahaa.