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  1. Fortis, it was painted on. No stickers.

     

    alpha6164, the roof, engine cover and centre spoiler mount are all in full carbon whereas on the SVJ it's standard. Side note, I really love the spec on the 63 especially the lower front which is all black.

     

    Thank you, one more question, was the front bar side winglet carbon or just plastic, I can’t tell in the photos. Thank you.

  2. Don't count on Audi service either. They're awful too.

     

    It’s your local dealer IMO, for the last 7 years I’ve had at least one Audi car in the family and the service and customer service has been perfect. Loan cars, free pick up of our cars and deliveries, etc. I guess like anything, unfortunately, it comes down to your relationship.

  3. Yes, I'm on my second Model S :) The main reason I think I'll end up with the Audi instead of a Model 3 or S is that Tesla's service capacity here is already maxed out. If I book service now I will probably get it January... A lot of people have their cars at Tesla for months waiting to be fixed. Luckily I have never had any major issues the five years and over 150,000 km driven, but if something should happen I'm afraid to think about the waiting time. And this is with only Model S and X in the market, when Model 3 is released I wouldn't be surprised if you have to wait 6 to 10 months for a service appointment.

     

    The Porsche I'm getting either way!

     

    I am hearing you, that’s what’s keeping me away from them, their overall approach to things as explained above, after sale is extremely important for me because I hate being inconvenienced, Mercedes and Audi have been exemplary Porsche not so much so it put me off Porsche, it’s the local dealer not the brand itself but you are only as good as your worst employee.

  4. Thank you for the detailed explanation Placid, actually I think you misunderstood me, I don’t think at all that they are anything like Apple, Fikse compared them to Apple, so I followed up on his comment.

    I actually think quite the opposite, they are nothing like Apple, that’s why I asked Wheels to draw comparisons in relation to tech.

    After rereading it I can see how my comment “They think they are the new Apple” can be misconstrued apologies for that.

     

    I was referring to the way Tesla staff act(ed) and the whole vibe and setting up of the event, their customer interface, very Apple like, keeping people lined up in the inclement weather in order to show them a piece of unimpressive kit, that’s why I got frustrated with the whole thing, it’s all about creating hype just like Apple does every September.

    I wasn’t aware of that and that’s why I ended up in line like an idiot in the middle of a working day, that’s why I am frustrated.

     

    Let me clarify I am not anti Tesla at the end of the day I did give them a deposit for the car and I wanted to buy it but their whole attitude and inability to deal with the simplest of tasks put me off.

    BTW at least 2 other couples left while we were inline waiting. I am much better off buying from an established house.

     

    As for their inventions, my exact point, Tesla took existing readily available tech refined it and repackaged it which is absolutely fine but refining tech isn’t quite the same as inventing tech, that’s the reason why I was arguing against the fact that Tesla is not the new Apple but it looks like, at least according to you, I came across exactly the opposite.

     

    Back to the car, yesterday I had a meeting in the vicinity of the showroom which looked to be almost empty after the initial hype died down so I went in to have a look, the Model 3, not for me, it did not look better than a Mazda 3, I will sit tight until the other manufacturers bring something to the market.

     

    You are a Tesla owner right? and by your own admission you will end up with Audi and/or Porsche, after seeing the cars I completely agree with your views, the only difference is that Tesla helped me make up my mind before I bought from them.

  5. Your original statement was the following:

     

     

     

    My point was that Apple is no different, their tech has been around forever too, just the particular execution hasn't. Same with Tesla. That is also why I used the rocket example. SpaceX has been very revolutionary, but "what technology did they invent?"

     

    Go back and do more reading. Apple is no different LOL.

  6. I can understand not liking the production numbers but some of the comments crack me

    Up. Of course it looks like an Aventador cause it is an Aventador 😂

     

    Did you guys expect a new car ? I am so confused. The SVJ has more technical changes over the standard Aventador and SV way way more than let’s say Lp640 to 670. Now that was the definition of a body kit and people still go crazy. And yes the Performante looks like a Huracan with a body kit. A body kit from Lamborghini that is designed to work.

     

    I saw the car and it is the first Lamborghini that I loved the moment I saw it and didn’t have to grow on me. It’s dead nuts sexy. The intakes are 3” wider than the SV and can swallow a toddler lol. The wing and the ALA setup is sexy AF.

     

    Bingo, that’s what it is, an Aventador with a body kit, albeit a fantastic one.

  7. I understood you meant it as a figure of speech. I took it that you were saying that the tech Tesla is using has been around since the invention of the electric car, which was over 100 years ago (so "forever"). My point was that while the electric car itself has been around "forever," the electric car tech that Tesla has been using has not. Before them, no one had developed car batteries that had the range or the charging times that Teslas have.

     

    Once again what tech did Tesla invent? We’ve been charging batteries forever.

     

    Since we are comparing them with Apple the first trillion dollar company, the company who revolutionized the personal computing industry and change our lives with mobile computing forever, that’s why I am asking, what revolutionary tech have they invented because I genuinely do not know.

     

    As for business, unless you have patented proprietary tech you are open to the wolves, which they might have, I don’t care enough to look into it, I don’t buy shares so I don’t care but when your business can be replicated in the tent next door and you have no protection IMO you have nothing but an average, unspectacular business which is open for taking. When the big boys decide to move in your space you need to play your cards right, got to show some humility otherwise you are left with your pants in your hand.

  8. Would disagree with you in one respect---the tech Tesla did hasn't really been around forever. Yes, "electric cars" have been around forever, but developing electric car technology to the degree that Tesla has no one had done before, and the automotive industry had claimed could not be done. Tesla has brought the concept very far, the problem is that it still isn't far enough yet.

     

    Elon Musk as of late seems to be cracking mentally which is not going to help things either. Too much pressure I suppose.

     

    Forever in this instance was used as a figure of speech.

     

    What tech did Tesla invent ?

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