Speed Demon
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Anyone hear any more information on the Aventador replacement? Any idea on intro date?
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54 minutes ago, whiteout said:
Not for power. That merge pipe might make the sound pretty, but it greatly restricts flow.
Which exhaust is best for power while still sounding good? Powercraft? Gintani? Other?
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Congratulations! The car looks stunning!
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On 1/19/2020 at 6:56 AM, topjay said:
So was talking to someone well connected today and I don’t know if it is true as I’ve not heard it elsewhere.
But apparently the V12 is to be dropped from the Aventador replacement as they just can’t get it light enough.
Same person said the order came from Lamborghini head office and the factory is not at all happy about it and the workers went on strike for several days over it. Pretty specific stuff if it’s bull.
Today, I spoke to the Lamborghini Americas CEO, Alessandro Farmeschi at the Lamborghini Winter Academia ice driving experience in Aspen, CO. He confirmed with certainty that the Aventador replacement will be a naturally aspirated V12 hybrid. So it will indeed be a V12! Rejoice!
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15 hours ago, LPDADDY said:
I wasn’t in the mood to post anything for a while , my brother passed away a few months ago , has been a very difficult time for the family . Roman back ? Really ?
Sorry for your loss. My condolences.
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On 12/11/2019 at 1:03 PM, jdcohenmd said:
Finally arrived at dealer.
Congrats! The car looks gorgeous!
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1 hour ago, Unotaz said:
Not possible. Transmission tunnel area is too small.
That’s what I had read and heard too. So the Aventador replacement, confirmed to have a DCT, must have a new CF tub.
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20 minutes ago, VCR said:
Hmmm... I heard from Maurizio in Geneva that it’ll still be a V12 with hybrid tech (batteries instead of supercapacitors) & DCT. But he neither confirmed nor denied on anything related to the CF tub/chassis.
You have better information than me. I am going by the interview and “assumed” that the confirmation of the DCT meant a new CF tub as I had heard repeatedly from my dealer that the current Aventador tub cannot take a DCT.
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5 minutes ago, VCR said:
Luxeous, as expected, Lambo is being very coy about it. They said it’ll be a DCT but when asked about the chassis, they replied “we can’t confirm on that”. I think logic would dictate that Lambo would source a DCT from the VAG parts bin and make revisions on the CF tub to accommodate it. This would be far less expensive than to re-engineer an existing or even to develope a new DCT that would fit the original Aventador tub. And I doubt Lambo would have the funding for a new tranny. The most optimistic ideal would be to develope a new smaller DCT that can universally fit in many of the VAG’s higher end brands. But that’s likely wishful thinking.
Thanks J. All hints suggest that the new flagship with still be based on the AV’s chassis and engine block with modifications to integrate DCT & hybrid tech. It would be more like the move from the Diablo to the Murcielago rather than the jump from the Murcielago to the Aventador where everything is brand new. Again, Lambo would not have the funds for that and no way would VAG authorize that kind of funding.
So it is possible to integrate a DCT into the Aventador chassis and CF tub?
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1 hour ago, Luxeous said:
@VCR have you heard anything about whether or not they’ll use the same CF tub from the Aventador for its replacement?
1 hour ago, sl55 said:Great posts A.
In regards to the replacement, is there a possibility Lamborghini comes out with a refresh Aventador sort of like the 458>488 instead of a full replacement?
I thought we learned from an interview of Maurizio Reggiani posted here a while back that the Aventador replacement is a ground up new design? Which means new CF tub, a DCT transmission, V12 and with pure electric range which means LiFe batteries and not just super capacitor hybrid system.
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1 hour ago, APB said:
Monza, the Ring, Imola etc. Tracks with fast corners that doesn't require too much agility.
918 had hybrid assisting it out of the corners, that's why it did so well on all the tracks in general. It was and will always be a hyper car costing a lot more than an SVJ, also being a much faster car in a straight than anything from the higher end supercar segment today. (at least until supercars start to go hybrid as well.)
I had also heard from multiple track drivers of the 918 as well as other Hybrid hypercars that a fast single lap is possible on long tracks (like the Ring) but repeated laps invariably got slower due to power depletion in the battery and the inability to have a fully charged battery at all times. This will make non-hybrids have an advantage in lap times in a sustained 30 min lap session. The 918 did poorly at COTA where I track my cars. The Performante did a 2.18 on Trofeo R tires in the hands of an experienced driver (not me) at COTA. No 918 came close to that laptime at COTA.
To be honest, neither the 918 nor SVJ are ideal track cars as they are too heavy. So laptimes are not the primary purpose most customers buy these cars. A fast single laptime is largely for bragging rights.
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49 minutes ago, Unotaz said:
LOL, you are really one of those guys who drink the kool-aid that these Italian manufacturers feed you huh?
Here is my real world corner balance weight number for my 918 Spyder Weissach in my trim with leather everything, stereo and AC: 3702lbs
You really think the SVJ weighs at 3500lbs?
And if you think the SVJ did the Ring lap time due to its "lightweight" and ALA aerodynamics, then you certainly don't have any track experience under your belt. The SVJ did that lap time with the third generation TROFEO R tires, not Corsa. Forget about the Trofeo R (which was tire used for the record lap), what's even funnier is that Lamborghini doesn't even equip the SVJ here in the US with Corsa tires. It comes with the standard PZeros
We recently took a bunch of cars to Big Willow and my friend's SVJ in Corsa spec tires (he had to buy the set because Lamborghini refused to put on Corsa tires from the factory for the US) lapped the track 3s slower than his own 991.2 GT2RS (he brought his SVJ, GT2RS and P1).
P.S. Motor Trend weighed the SVJ when it lapped Big Willow. In the Motor Trend test, they used the Corsa tires for the SVJ, which lapped the track SLOWER than the GT2RS of 1:21.08. SVJ lapped the track in 1:24.92. They also corner balanced the car and weighed the car at, wait for it, 3902lbs!!! So much for Lamborghini's claim of 3500lbs
Unotaz - do you know if the Pirelli Trofeo R tires you can buy in the US from TireRack for both the SVJ and the SV now are in fact the third gen Trofeo Rs that were used in the record Ring lap for the SVJ?
Link: https://www.tirerack.com/register/index.jsp?vehicleName=&saveToWishList=&newDesktop=true
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4 hours ago, sl55 said:
Aventador replacement won’t come with Sian’s innovative supercapacitor tech...
Wow!!! This is incredibly informative and interesting! Thank you for sharing!
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On 9/4/2019 at 9:38 PM, Allan-Herbie said:
Any suggestions on other things to do in the area? Last year went to Pagani. Was ok, but its very small and not really a big deal to do again. Ill also go by The Ferrucio Lamborghini Museum again. Ferrari will probobly do the museum tour again but did that last year. I havent looked into going to the factory? Any other places? What about like the main square that I think was dedicated to Ferrucio?
Please try and get more information on the timing of the Aventador replacement, if possible!
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Thank you sl55 and Destructo! I love the car!
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4 minutes ago, sl55 said:
Or does Lambo extend the current Aventador platform for 4 more years and develop an Aventador 2.0 which will keep the ISR but add the hybrid tech from the Sian?
Same source said likely 2021 reveal as a 2022 model and it will have a naturally aspirated V12 with hybrid powertrain and a dual clutch transmission. Total expected HP is around 1080 HP! The design was finalized sometime ago and it has undergone most of its testing. We will have to wait and see, I suppose...
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16 hours ago, Nuvolari612 said:
Sian tech will be passed down - single cutch V12 is here to stay for the next generation.
I think they will raise the price and make less.
Expect them to spend elsewhere - GT to fill out the brand.
Absolutely not trying to be argumentative but a factory person told me (assured me) that Aventador replacement will have a dual clutch transmission...
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A couple of my photographer buddies took these stills and rolling shots of my SV Roadster...
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2 minutes ago, sl55 said:
I wouldn't be surprised if they keep the Aventador tub for the replacement and build from this one off. They're already having issues with VAG and R&D money so if they can keep the tub it would help keep everything within budget.
But that means a single clutch transmission for another generation. That is highly unlikely, don't you think?
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34 minutes ago, Allan-Herbie said:
In these renders I think it looks great. Cant wait to see how much of it carries over to the Aventador replacement. The back of this car looks amazing. I wonder how rear visibility will fair? That being said I think Lambo is making a huge mistake going hybrid. The cars will take on a massive depreciation hit after warranty runs out. Look at the costs involved with cars like the P1 and 918. No one in their right mind is going to want to spend that kind of cash on a car that will more than likely border on a production run of 20,000 cars.
It is not a choice. No manufacturer can meet Euro emission regs without going hybrid or full electric in time.
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Still with a single clutch transmission and the hybrid super capacitor system adds only 34 HP. This car is very much an Aventador under the skin, I presume?
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I was told by some influential people within Lamborghini at Serata Italiana at Pebble this year that the naturally aspirated V12 ICE in the Aventador replacement is not something we should worry about... Implying it is safe and a done deal... And the fighting over it is over!
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At the end of June, I was told by someone from the factory that the Aventador replacement is pretty much ready and further along than the SF90. In this conversation the car was a V12 hybrid with approximately 1080 HP (100 hp or so more than the SF90 Stradale). Separately and earlier I had heard the VAG/Porsche management did not want a V12 in the Aventador replacement and was unhappy that development was too far along to change now!
If the Aventador replacement does not have a V12, I believe, it is the kiss of death for the desirability of that car!
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I will be at Monterey Car Week this year too. I have my tickets for Quail and Serata Italiana. Hope to see many of you there!
Lamborghini Aventador's Future Replacement Will Get a Hybrid V-12
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https://www.autoblog.com/2021/07/09/lamborghinis-aventador-replacement-will-receive-a-new-v12-engine/