rj1031
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UR doesn't need to prove anything. Their customers have done that and then some. ASS' shop car displayed not only it won but it gave hope to GTR owners/customers that their platform still has a bright future on these events. TX2K15...I just saw the list of cars and their horsepower competing on the roll-racing event. Wow! One car stand-out was Eric G's GTR at 2100 hp...for a V6! I'm impressed!
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Video is up! Congrats to ASS! That was some good competition! So (ASS GTR) displacement came down from 4.0 to 3.8L. That explains why that motor seems like it's screaming the hell out! Must be hitting 10K rpm. You gotta have rpms on these kinds of races, GTR or not. Now, the Aventador is an over-square engine ~hint-hint~
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Your passion speaks louder than words! Great read!
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putting a 6 speed would make it a supra ..lol
So you mentioned about the Supra. Not sure if you're being sarcastic but allow me to remind you one truth.
The GTR will never leave a legacy not like the Supra MKIV...not even close. For the past two decades, ever since it was born, guys like SW, Saad, Ryan Woon, Dana VWR, Cody Phillips, and etc. have impacted the streets and the track with a Supra; literally dominated on every aspect. The motor, trans, and rear-end alone are pretty much bullet-proof coming out from the factory. Only until recently, when its platform was challenged by other updated platforms like the Lambos/R8s and GTRs. I do applaud on how well the Lambos/R8s/GTRs are doing but I still have deep respect on the Supra. Nero of ###### Motorpsorts is helping a customer for the next TI. I know they did well back during spring. So we'll see!
Tell you what, if you take-off all the electronics, AWD and put a manual trans on the GTR then it becomes a 370z/G37. Have we seen one of these on these events? No, because they have the GTR for that. Might as well replace the steering wheel of the GTR with a PS4 controller and press start. Easy. I'm just old-school, I guess. So Sam or Vegasgtr, a little respect for those who loves to play with three pedals with a h-pattern manual shifting especially to those who are wrestling 1800+ whp, which the GTR can never have and never will be.
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I say shop car vs shop car on the next event.
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That is right in line with mine from yesterday. Pretty impressive for stock wheels and 888s
What's crazier is that you can take it to the street and to an event do it again and again. That says a lot about the package.
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Man! How far are these cars going to be pushed? What's next billet blocks? Pneumatic valves? This is great rivalry!
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Next TI will be really interesting! Everyone will step-up their game! Congrats to ASS for winning KOTS! Props to Dustin!!! Awesome to see a real customer compete with his own car deserves much respect.
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This was from yesterday from TSS FB page...
Below is a list of all drivers top indexed and 6 speed challenge speed. Passes made during open sessions are NOT included in this list. Drivers listed as "not indexed" were outside the 5 mph+/- start speed. (you still received a time slip but the times were not counted toward indexing and were not recorded)
Car # Speed Driver Car
77 195.14 Stacy Barnett TTSL
95 191.32 Reza Koranki Lambo
23 191 Tag Marlow TTG
31 190.83 Ivan Phipps GTR
70 188.6 Joel Gusman TTSL
65 187.49 Lee Saunders Viper
2 185.03 Mullet TTSL
81 184.12 Daniel Castillo Corvette
24 183.52 Viren Singh GTR
3 183.22 Faisal Al Khaldi TTG
39 181.15 Ricky Crossley TTG
19 178.57 Ben Haynes GTR
52 178 Jason Purdum GTR
87 176.19 Mark Johnston GTR
32 176.05 Kelly Martin Viper
21 175.91 Elliot Presser Viper
13 174.82 Will Dugas Supra
84 174.55 Geovannie Castillo Supra
8 174.28 David Chukhman TTG
62 173.87 Tiago Salies Viper
10 173.61 Chris Leboeuf GTR
56 172.41 Austin Oakes GTR
55 171.88 David Feldman Corvette
33 169.42 Lupe Hernadez Supra
41 169.17 Frank Volk Viper
9 168.28 Tony Whatley Viper
35 166.42 Joe Stetin Corvette
40 166.17 Ivan Curiel Supra
26 164.71 Matt Owen IS300
93 164.47 Rick Ansay GTR
76 163.87 Victor Lao POS
68 163.28 Kelly Bise Corvette
42 163.16 Rob Brooks GTR
48 163.04 Todd Nall Porsche
14 162.22 Casey Eveleigh Corvette
15 161.87 Mike Davis Supra
92 161.4 Samir Datt Supra
54 156.79 Micah Fleshman Mustang
60 156.46 Ronnie Hay GT500
11 155.81 Tance Simolke Corvette
85 155.81 John Gilliand Mustang
71 154.85 Anthony Moreno zo6
51 153.16 Bill Winters Corvette
69 152.54 RC Cox ZR1
7 150.6 Robert Williams CTSV
36 150.4 Jeremy Albright Cobra
46 150.4 Rob Roberts ZR1
6 144.32 Jarrett Lott GTR
44 144.23 Darnel Settles CTSV
50 141.59 Robert Mecchi Porsche
73 137.95 Kevin Johnston GT500
90 137.11 Marco Armenta Plastic mess-06
53 134.56 Jasmin Galeaz CTSV
47 129.38 Melissa Weaver Corvette
58 99.07 Austin Oakes evo
45 96.07 Robert Varela TTG
18 Not Indexed Tony Palo GTR
25 Not Indexed Shin Kim GTR
43 Not Indexed Andres Jimenez GTR
57 Not Indexed Austin Oakes GTR
74 Not Indexed Andy Nelson Viper
75 Not Indexed Brandon Rockhold CTSV
80 Not Indexed Shawn Dunn Corvette
83 Not Indexed Tien Nguyen GTR
88 Not Indexed JC Slayton R8TT
89 Not Indexed Eric Ledet GTR
333 Not Indexed Oliver Benloulou TTSL
369 Not Indexed Oliver Benloulou TTSTrofeo
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Yea ASS went 207 and still have more left. Going to be a badass weekend.
Just saw this from the supraforums.
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Yes but there is always a tradeoff of HP per CI and how that is spread around. GTR's are fighting HP per CI more than HP per cylinder. HP per CI is a lot more a function of airflow which favors more cylinders (generally, but again it depends).
As spans (block length, number of main bearings) get longer things get exponentially heavier to fight flex and maintain strength. Look at the Viper V10, big cubes in 10 cylinders and they are know for making a gazillion hp. But the stock crank weighs 90+ lbs, almost twice the weight of a small block V8 mopar crank.
I think you are forgetting that the Aventador's engine is an over-squared (bigger bore and smaller stroke) configuration. Meaning less side loads on the cylinder walls and less stress on the crank and its bearings. Plus if you put a longer rod on the same stroke, it will lessens the stress on the wrist pins as well. I think it's a great platform to make gigantic power. Plus the V12's ignition timing is smoother and more balanced compared to lesser cylinder engines. To go further, you can also change the firing order to minimize vibrations.
A custom Winberg or Bryant crank are lighter and stronger and will handle the more power anyone could ever imagine.
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Aventador TT...AWD, heavier (good for traction), big displacement coupled with big turbos. GAME OVER!!!
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One week left to TI. We will see ASS shop car, T1, BL, ER/ETS, swiss cheese?, and many others. Will be EPIC. So the question is: Are we gonna see TwinTurbo V12 (Aventadors) ??
Won't be a surprise if a 2R Aventador TT show-up. When it does, competitors will be packing their bags and go home. Lol! In a serious note, the 2R and "X" package Gallardo/R8's are still dominating. We'll see in TI.
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Street car alert!!! Lol. Look how smooth my car takes off the line. No race car here.
Man! There's no other car out there at the moment that can do this. Such an awesome platform! I'll be honest, I watched the video countless times and my reactions were...smh; uncomprehending to say the least. That 2nd to 3rd gear and so on acceleration must be effing crazy. What drives me even more nuts is it does not have any chute to slow it down. Now that is a "STREET CAR"!
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I think we haven't seen nothing yet until a 2R Aventador comes out and devour everything in its path.
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Going to 200 mph is more suited with the power you guys are playing with. The Boss mustang is one great reference on power differences between the GTR and Gallardo during highway runs. The 8.1 ET of the mustang is no joke and majority of its great time was primarily contributed from a great 60 ft. time. I rode in a low 8 sec. Supra before on the highway and I am flabbergasted how fast is accelerated. I can't even fathom how it feels like to be in a 2R or A16/20. Nevertheless, enjoy and be safe out there.
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Yup, that GTR is fast. A20?
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No doubt. I definitely agree with what you had said, and was very nice to have an engine conversation with a fellow NUT like me. I was reading wrong into what you were saying and I see exactly what you were going for by the rod and piston combo now. Definitely look forward to having more chats with you down the road.
Likewise, sir!
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Where did I say no power gain? I said "won't do a whole lot" which is correct. It will definitely effect the power under the curve. But for these builds there is no reason or purpose to do either of the things you suggested, granted if you are spending the money yourself you as the owner can certainly tell the builder to do it if you so choose. Was sharing an opinion was all.
Hey man don't mean to make it more than it was. Yes, you didn't say no power gain. I was just adding and relating that there is power to be gained. I also stressed the reality of its longevity of such physical change internally. It's additional insurance as well. An Aventador is one expensive car and if a 2R or more is the goal, then I think it's better to over-engineer it. I can easily say to my tuner to have two settings...set the rev limiter at 8K for the street and 9.5K for 1/2 to 1 mile race events
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Honestly changing the Rod length won't do a whole lot in terms of a power gain and possibly could lessen the life of the piston in general. Being that the aventador as with most Italian performance motors already revs pretty good, that doesn't need to be changed really considering we are discussing boosting the motor. I think the Aventador can do well simply because it has more displacement and cylinders for power and torque to be spread across. I am very anxious to see what all of the Lamborghini tuners have up their sleeves, especially Underground Racing.
So increasing the rod length will lessen the life of the piston? No power gain? Really? Any serious engine builder knows the benefits of this practice.
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It would be cool to see Gallardo TT 2R's acceleration graph in comparison the cars in the chart! Can someone do your magic and include the graph in the chart? Thanks!
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I'm an engine guy and my money is on the Aventador. It may be heavier but its weight is an advantage for traction. The over-sqaure engine specs helps on the traction part especially when getting off the line fast!
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it's not always about the engine in going fast.
Agree. It's the whole combination working in unison.
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GT40 as in a turbo, not the car.
Oops, my bad
TI, TX2K, and etc. should have a NEW class in roll racing...turbo bikes vs. Gallardo TTs.
Now that lambda lambda lambda and the omega mu finally won, UGR shop car trolling time?
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Huracan I believe has the same under-squared engine platform as the Gallardo. So not so much R&D for the engine but much for the fabrication of the turbo system.
BTW, since ASS shop car demonstrated something promising for GTR customers. The win in TI gave multiple orgasms to GTR owners and I am sure the deep-pocketed ones will want some more of that. TX2K15...I'm booking my flight and hotel NOW!