joebiz Report post Posted October 24, 2009 I don't want to start a fight or offend anyone but I'm having a hard time understanding these $60,000 bodywork kits. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Hamann-Vict...=item53dd209b64 How is this $60,000? Are they using some sort of special carbon fiber? It seems like you've got 6 to 8 carbon fiber pieces, tops. What little I know about Carbon Fiber lets me understand that this is mostly a labor expense, not materials. It looks great- neat design and all. If I had the money to buy another Gallardo, I'd just buy another Gallardo... but to each his own. I'm not digging on the kit at all, just want to understand the economics of it. So, let's say the exhaust system if $5,000. That leaves $55,000 for the Carbon Fiber. At $50 an hour that's over 1,100 hours of man hour for 8 pieces of carbon fiber. I'm interested if there is 10X margin in this or if that's just the normal price for this type of stuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
57udl3y Report post Posted October 24, 2009 prepreg carbon fiber, which i'm guessing this is, is very pricey to begin with, excluding labor. A non prepreg dry carbon (i didn't know that existed but oh well) hood for a gtr costs $3,300, thats on the cheaper side of hoods too, the prepreg version cost substantially more then that. Added that this kit is low volume as well they have to charge more per kit to make the money back. Furthermore you then have to add the because its for a high end car tax. Now i wouldn't say i'd sped my money on that kit, but i'm sure its much much more expensive then your estimating Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbuff Report post Posted October 25, 2009 I don't want to start a fight or offend anyone but I'm having a hard time understanding these $60,000 bodywork kits. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Hamann-Vict...=item53dd209b64 How is this $60,000? Are they using some sort of special carbon fiber? It seems like you've got 6 to 8 carbon fiber pieces, tops. What little I know about Carbon Fiber lets me understand that this is mostly a labor expense, not materials. It looks great- neat design and all. If I had the money to buy another Gallardo, I'd just buy another Gallardo... but to each his own. I'm not digging on the kit at all, just want to understand the economics of it. So, let's say the exhaust system if $5,000. That leaves $55,000 for the Carbon Fiber. At $50 an hour that's over 1,100 hours of man hour for 8 pieces of carbon fiber. I'm interested if there is 10X margin in this or if that's just the normal price for this type of stuff. Freaking huge money maker.....If the resin fumes don't kill you first.....Seriously, it is like printing money. Guys buy this carbon fibre up without any concern over price....We are working on a $687,000 kit for the Gallardo..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortis Report post Posted October 25, 2009 that kit looks horrible in real life, I saw the white car at the show took some shots of it, they butchered a beautiful car. $60 k for the kit, they dreaming Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKBULL Report post Posted October 25, 2009 Coming from the tuner scene I can tell you these bodykits are money makers!! The biggest expense is the making of the mold, however once completed a mold can produce many generations and will pay for itself fairly quickly. Since materials are purchased in bulk, which lowers the per unit cost, the only limiting factor as far as profit is concerned is overhead. As stated above the "exotic" tax is judiciously applied thereby increasing profit margin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Report post Posted October 25, 2009 LAMBO TAX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulfromtulsa Report post Posted October 26, 2009 its expensive because its for a LAMBO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRG x Lambo Report post Posted October 26, 2009 LAMBO TAX with some minor exceptions, that some makers will use better quality resins, materials, etc for the simple fact that "the market" can afford it versus a lower-end tuner market. but all in all, the biggest driving factor is that some people are willing to pay/afford it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StuartRSC Report post Posted October 26, 2009 It is pretty expensive isn't it. Someone already pointed out that there is an initial investment in mold/prototyping costs, which is more than you would expect. Having said that it's one thing to price your stuff at a reasonable and fair margin to recoup your costs and make a reasonable living, it's another altogether to charge 60G's for something like that. Besides, despite my bias I much prefer the RSC exhaust carbon fiber & bumper package which is orders of magnitude less than that! I think we know what the target market for this stuff is though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKBULL Report post Posted October 28, 2009 ^^ I guess there are alot of Rappers looking for the newest fad; and alot of Pharmaceutical sales reps looking to burn some cash. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregR-Tuned Report post Posted October 31, 2009 "Includes shipping of your car to our installation facility in Florida along with installation and paint" must be something special in the paint. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Report post Posted November 2, 2009 60k for some Gallardo kit? You might as well make that the Reventon bodykit. or 60k + 10k = a very nice early used Gallardo. Which one makes more sense? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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