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Here we go again: Corvette Plastic mess-06 570S Hockenheim Short 1:06.90 1:08.80 Laguna Seca (post 1988) 1:33.05 1:34.58 Le Mans (Bugatti) 1:45.44 1:47.13 Motortrend Figure-8 0:22.30 0:23.00 Virginia International Raceway Grand East Course (post 01/2014) 2:41.32 2:47.40 Willow Springs 1:25.00 1:27.21 Sachsenring 1:30.26 1:33.12 570S 675LT Buttonwillow Configuration 13 1:56.10 1:52.00 Goodwood Hill climb 1:06.57 1:06.22 Anglesey Coastal 1:14.50 1:12.80 Vairano Handling Course 1:13.51 1:10.10 Hockenheim Short 1:08.80 1:07.20 Sachsenring 1:33.12 1:30.52 Le Mans (Bugatti) 1:47.13 1:44.04 Motortrend Figure-8 0:23.00 0:22.40 Willow Springs 1:27.21 1:24.29 Corvette Plastic mess-06 570S 675LT Hockenheim Short 1:06.90 1:08.80 1:07.20 Le Mans (Bugatti) 1:45.44 1:47.13 1:44.04 Motortrend Figure-8 0:22.30 0:23.00 0:22.40 Willow Springs 1:25.00 1:27.21 1:24.29 Sachsenring 1:30.26 1:33.12 1:30.52 So according to that logic, a 675LT is equally as bad? Take off the trofeos and see what you get with the LT. There is a massive difference between underrating by 30hp & 100hp. Those 570s are probably cranking out 620hp. The performante beat the Plastic mess-06 (Z07 package) by 2secs. If that can equally be translated over to other tracks (which it should), then that means 4 secs altogether or an additional 2secs off the Plastic mess-06 on other tracks, and there is no comparison. Factoring the hp difference, and Perf is a hero. "Corvette Plastic mess-06"...LP, Not cool you guys.

First test in AutoZeitung! -Weight: 1557 kg -0-100 kph: 2,78 s -0-200 kph: 8,83 s -100-0 kph: 31,1 m -200-0 kph: 116,5 m -Contidrom 3,63 km: 1:29,55 min (their own record) It's about 2 seconds quicker around a 3,6-km-long track than the Corvette Plastic mess-06 Z07-Pack. And even 2 seconds faster than Ducati 1199 Panigale S. If my math checks out right, then this thing is naturally .56 secs quicker per km than the POS. Which means that it should be atleast 11.5secs quicker around the nurburgring than the POS--not the manual that sport auto tested.

Sorry. Laptop's kinda old.

Lamborghini Gets Serious About Beating Its Longtime Rival Target: Ferrari By: Georg Kacher August 24, 2017 Lamborghini was absorbed by Audi in 1998, and for almost 20 years the Germans have kept the raging bull on a short leash, restricting the portfolio to multiple versions of two essentially unrelated models, Murcielago/Aventador and Gallardo/Huracán. Under charismatic CEO Stephan Winkelmann, replaced by Stefano Domenicali in 2016, Lamborghini had attempted to revive the legendary Miura and add the four-door Estoque to the lineup, but both attempts ended in failure. The breakthrough happened in 2012, when the Urus concept was met with such enthusiasm that a production version was greenlit to debut in 2018. Loosely based on Porsche’s third-gen Cayenne and Audi’s latest Q7, the Urus will be offered with a choice of engines ranging from a 458-hp V-6 plug-in hybrid to a 4.0-liter V-8 that will develop 660 hp in the Performante model. Once production is in full swing, the hyper-SUV is expected to almost double Lamborghini sales to more than 6,000 vehicles a year. So far, so predictable, but beyond that the picture gets a little cloudy. According to the Sant ’Agat grapevine, there is talk of shifting control of Lambo to Porsche. At the same time, the rumor mill in Wolfsburg suggests Audi will also move under Porsche’s control, joining Bentley and Bugatti. Such an arrangement would leave the individual brand identities untouched while creating a variety of synergy effects. In the meantime, the Huracán lineup will be given more muscle, with Speedster and Barchetta versions coming, along with a hardcore SV model and an even hotter GT3 Stradale. There’ll also be a Huracán Targa to complement the roadster and a lightweight Superleggera version. But the most audacious iteration by far will the Huracán Safari, which will feature height-adjustable suspension, bigger wheel arches, all-terrain body protection panels, all-wheel drive, and four-wheel steering. While not ready to tackle the Rubicon, Lamborghini R & D claims the almost go-anywhere Huracán—which will be available in coupe and roadster form—is absolutely unbeatable on rough Italian C-roads where ground clearance and wheel travel are essential. The first all-new Lamborghini developed on Domenicali’s watch will be the Aventador replacement expected in 2020. Code named LB634/635 (coupe/roadster) it will be an extensive evolution of the current concept, so don’t fear a Huracán on steriods or an Italian Porsche 960. While the charismatic V-10 will eventually bite the dust, the classic V-12 will soldier on, and on. A 6.0-liter, twin-turbo version, rated—on paper—at 900 hp, was briefly considered, but Lamborghini planners instead opted for a naturally aspirated 7.0-liter powerplant that has reportedly made 800 hp on the dyno. Not quite brutal enough? Maybe, but when Lamborghini throws in electric front-wheel drive with 160 hp minimum per wheel, more than 1,000 hp and 885 lb-ft should be plenty of grunt. The Aventador MkII features a lightweight evolution of the extremely stiff monofuselage carbon-fiber tub that stuffs the transmission tunnel with batteries, and/or the fuel tank and the prop shaft for a low center of gravity and a neatly balanced weight distribution. Early on in the development process, engineers experimented with a Miura-style transversely mounted V-12, but what they gained in packaging was lost in complexity. Like the Huracán Performante, the top-of-the-range Aventador boasts active aerodynamics, every conceivable piece of chassis-related electronic wizardry, bigger brakes, more exotic materials, and relatively competitive connectivity. A slightly less expensive 700hp V-8 plug-in hybrid model is a possible addition to the new Aventador family, but the brawny SV, lightweight Essenza, and barely street-legal Jota variants are definitely in the mix. Scheduled to arrive about a year after the new Aventador is the next-gen Huracán. Unlike the current model, which is twinned with the Audi R8 using the so-called MSS matrix, the new Huracán reportedly moves closer in concept to its V-12 stablemate. As the current Huracan’s V-10 goes goes away when MSS is retired, the smaller midengine Lambo will switch to the Porsche-sourced 4.0-liter V-8, this time rated at 650 hp. An electric power pack will potentially deliver a total output of up to 900 hp on some models. There is only so much torque four tires can convert into traction, so expect a 0-60 mph acceleration time of about 2.5 sec. Tires and downforce will restrict top speed to about 220 mph. As far as the chassis is concerned, we believe that the Huracan II will adopt the Aventador’s light and rigid monofuselage layout, together with the double-wishbone suspension, brand new electro-hydraulic steering, and carbon-ceramic brakes. http://www.automobilemag.com/news/lamborgh...ong-time-rival/

Saw this on PH and though it was it funny

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2018-l...st-drive-review

Autocar

Tire treadwear is 80 http://www.automobilemag.com/news/first-dr...an-performante/

Anyone know when the press reviews will be out?

Figured i'd make one over here too. Anyone know something 'bout this guy? http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/04/14/m...n-at-monza.html

Provided the article is true https://www.autocar.co.uk/opinion/new-cars/...performante-lap

Eh, least i'm not ashamed to admit.

I dont know anything about DBK, so i can't comment on that, and since i'm currently bored because my big day was ruined, here's a video of a PROPER comparison. And an analysis from LT

Hey, you're over here too! Nice. But in regards to lap times, I doubt much would change for me. Im mostly fascinated with times because I would like to race and experience that speed, but if what I think is going to be happening during my career, then I won't have the time to race pro or am. Personal times would be best for me if i'm not doing anything major.

At the moment, none. But thats going to be changing within the year My main problem with his "analysis" is that the times he's comparing could be said to be a total of three different times. The gantry speed of 255kph for the 918 on the 7:00 lap, is 15kph FASTER than the actual run, which is about 5kph slower than the performante. Then he mentions that lambo hasn't won any form of motorsport for over 50 years, is just plain wrong. They actually won the asian blancpain series and some other races. I could get the links for you if you want to see for yourself. But if he had just simply used the actual lap and got times that he was able to SEE, and compare them to the actual Huracan lap, I'd have no problem with him pointing out the "discrepancies"; but he didn't.

20+ secs? Where did you get that from? Lambo themselves never tested it.

Hmm, on the official lambo video, can anyone see both the fake speedo and the actual dashboard speedo? Because if you see that white line on the actual speedo, thats the true tacho. It seems to move quite a bit slower than the one on the left. Let me know what you think?

BTG conspiracy. http://www.bridgetogantry.com/blog-did-lam...e-that-laptime/

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Video http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/video/l...t-11661578.html

from auto motor und sport

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I see the MT review has already been posted. NVM..but i'll post this. One last thing: The Performante went very quickly around the Nürburgring Nordschleife. How fast? Well, Lamborghini’s own Aventador Superveloce set a time of 6 minutes, 59.73 seconds. The only production car to ever circumnavigate more quickly is the Porsche 918 Spyder, which laid down an ice-cold 6:57.00. The Huracán Performante? Lambo ain’t saying no matter how many times I ask (Reggiani just smiles at me), but I heard mutterings of “six-fifty-two-something-something.” That would shatter the Porsche’s record.

New info on the name "Performante", why they chose it over "Superleggera", and the aero: Name: To make it "short", there is a company called "Carrozzeria Touring Superleggera srl" in Milano. The original company "Carrozzeria Touring" was founded in 1928. All about them can be read in wikipedia. In 2008 they started many files against companies in the automotive industry who used the name "Superleggera", of course Lamborghini was one of them. I just found them today (in German) and it was only one of the investors who started them. This year Lambo (or it's mother Audi) decided not to go further and will not use Superleggera anymore. I could not find anything if they have to pay back for using Superleggeraon the Gallardo. The lawyers from Labo/Audi then immediately trademarked "Performante" what has already been posted here. If they also trademark "Edizione Technica" is not yet clear. So the next version will for sure be called Performante regardless if it is a Coupé or Spyder. Features: Many pictures are around and the latest ones show some additional openings and different angles of the new wing. Behind this is the new active system that changes the angle to have less drag on high speeds but best possible downforce in turns. The system also includes variable active openings in the front. It seems that all this works very well on the Huracan Performante what resulted in very low lap times on the Ring. But they keep the secret well. Together with 640PS, more lightweight exhaust, many CF parts the Performante seems to become an expensive animal

Thanks you guys.