murclovr Report post Posted October 18, 2005 It occured to me that as the murci uses the same block and is going to 6.5 liters, can a diablo be similarly stroked? Sorry if the answer is simple, but I think this is a lot more feasible than lowering a 6.0 to 3000 lbs;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Placid Report post Posted October 18, 2005 I think stroking the 6.0 to 6.5 (which equals a 7mm longer stroke, is it possible?), will cost more than e.g. installing turbos, which again will give you more power than just stroking it. Although turbos add weight too, I guess the power increase makes up for that :mrgreen: But if you have the money, why not :twisted: A 6.5 Diablo would be pure porn :finga: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qvpower Report post Posted October 18, 2005 or just wait for someone to crash the new murcie 6.5 and get the engine :mrgreen: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
murclovr Report post Posted October 18, 2005 QV is more on the wavelength I was, but it would be tricky bc of the drive by wire throttle no? dammit, i wanna see a 650 NA HP diablo, seems wierd to me to add turbos to a High Comp engine, that and the V12 lambo is supposed to be free revving and have that great sound, not have it turbo-muted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolfaz Report post Posted October 18, 2005 or just wait for someone to crash the new murcie 6.5 and get the engine :mrgreen: I've thought about this, I know someone who has a murci long block (6.2) and actually did some research into doing the swap into a 6.0. The oil sump/differantial is different as is the intake, in my case when you were done (if you could swap the oil sumps to make it do able) it wasn't worth the 0.2 liter increase. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamborghinikid Report post Posted October 19, 2005 I have personally seen with my own two eye's a 7 liter engine being developed for a SE30. The last time I saw the project the crank shaft was just completed. Engine block was used from a marine engine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolfaz Report post Posted October 19, 2005 I have personally seen with my own two eye's a 7 liter engine being developed for a SE30. The last time I saw the project the crank shaft was just completed. Engine block was used from a marine engine. Are you sure you saw it with your two eyes? 7.0 from 5.7 makes sense, but not 6.5 from 6.0 or 6.2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamborghinikid Report post Posted October 19, 2005 I have personally seen with my own two eye's a 7 liter engine being developed for a SE30. The last time I saw the project the crank shaft was just completed. Engine block was used from a marine engine. Are you sure you saw it with your two eyes? 7.0 from 5.7 makes sense, but not 6.5 from 6.0 or 6.2. :butthead: :butthead: I wonder what the liter and displacment is on the lambo Marine engines ? I will get by there and get some progress shots. The crank was awesome and was on a truning machine with oil dripping off of it. I cant wait to see it assembled . It will be a beast ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
murclovr Report post Posted October 19, 2005 Do the marine engines rev and have the same power/torque characteristics? either way, maybe abolfaz, is right, go for 7 liters, def. not too big for a V12, and can still Rev freely i think....this sounds good! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qvpower Report post Posted October 19, 2005 I heard that the 7 liter engines were too heavy and too torquey for cars? Yeah. if there are no additional weight from the engine I would definitely consider it.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Mifune Report post Posted October 19, 2005 Lamborghini had done a little experimenting itself with this on the past, I think maybe when Alfieri was developing the QV. I don't remember much of what I read about it, but the marine engines were quite different and I think thermal management was a big issue (as was weight). It must be Robert Ball doing that project, no? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qvpower Report post Posted October 20, 2005 yes. this is true. the engine was deemed to powerful and too heavy. Not to mention the additional cooling capacity needed for the engine. which is not possible for the qv. lamborghinikid, did you see the engine from Robert ball's place? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamborghinikid Report post Posted October 20, 2005 Yep , Its at Supecars International right now . the crank was finished and Robert and pete are completely developing the engine for the SE 30 right now. Its insaine awesome ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qvpower Report post Posted October 21, 2005 Looks like I need to call robert. Havent talked to him in a while..... :twisted: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
murclovr Report post Posted October 21, 2005 is this SE30 NA???? or is it now FI? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Report post Posted October 21, 2005 All SE30's are NA (naturally aspirated) and F.I., (fuel injected) from the factory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
murclovr Report post Posted October 24, 2005 john, I should have made it more clear, i meant this modified ball SE30, maybe I figured they used forced induction, but i really dont know where the power can come from on a NA engine, beyond exhuast, seems like its basically done from the factory...dammit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Report post Posted October 24, 2005 they used forced induction My mistake. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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