Information from a black hole

It occurred to me that it may be incorrect that no information is released from a Black Hole (Except Hawking radiation)...What about Gravity itself?...If a large enough object was absorbed into the Black Hole it would have a measurable effect on the gravitational waves emanating from the Black Hole itself, allowing us some insight into what happens on the other side of the event horizon?

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some insight into what happens on the other side of the event horizon?

 

The other side of an event horizon is nothing, right? So what would there be to see?

 

If a black hole is something that collapses on itself to a point so small it is not significant, what could there be to see? I doubt another space. Probably jack fcuk.

 

Also, if another mass is pulled into it, the black hole was obviously so much more powerful the said mass doest mean anything. Your body has mass. But, this dont mean shit to the earth. Its probably pulling you to it, more than it to you.

 

Why the fcuk am I typing this?

 

No matter how much further we go into matter, we find more particles and energy. If we could get to a God particle, we still wont explain where this and all energy comes from. In the end, us humans still dont care about love and life. Well still keep killing and being humans.

 

Oh well, maybe Steven Hawking will chime in to the forum with his eyeballs!

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I was going to say Wheels in 1,2,3 ......

:lol2: :lol2: I am not a black hole expert, so no huge post. However, one theory some wonder about with black holes (although it has no solid evidence) is if a new Big Bang starts on the other side with every new black hole. A black hole is a singularity and the universe started with a singularity.

I am not a black hole expert, so no huge post.

 

I thought the event horizon is now disproven?

I thought the event horizon is now disproven?

 

Haven't followed it much, but I think it's Hawking who wrote a paper saying he now has changed his mind on some things regarding black holes. However I don't know if it literally means the event horizon is now actually disproven.

This is some deep stuff for LP!

 

I was just going to say "Quasars" - since technically, the reason that quasars are so bright is because of the friction and incredible heat from all of the matter which is essentially being jettisoned into space. But my understanding is that the reason they do that is the black hole has tons of matter coming in (say an unlucky star) and from the gravitational force ends up tossing some of it about in the form of super luminescent streams of matter. That said, gravity is not a "mass" but a product of density and matter. So I don't think the question would be, "Can black holes be so dense that gravity cannot escape?" but rather, "Can black holes be so dense with so much matter and energy that the gravity at the center of them cannot ever be changed?" or "are black holes forever black holes?"

 

I think of it like this... it's thought that the "end all" to the universe in billions of years is heat death. Stars die out, stars collapse, energy comes to a halt and you're left with no suns to burn from no energy for them to burn. Generally those stars go supernova eventually when they get past the core elements and collapse under gravity. Stars are comprised of matter, gas, etc and burn super hot due to friction and fusion, etc. So what in the hell would be at the center of a black hole? Could the same thing happen to those? it's kind of something I've always wondered... are black holes super hot at the center? They are essentially the end all of a star having collapsed to an incredible point of super density, so is that just i? Does the materials in the black hole change under gravity or time? Time itself is different there due to gravity, so does that mean that the answer could be "eventually" or "maybe" but "not for a really effing long time."???

 

A buddy of mine who does astrophysics tried to explain to me this "wall of fire" they think might be past the event horizon of a black hole. He sent me a link to something from the NY times. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/science/....html?_r=1&

 

Although I haven't kept up on it and have no idea if that's already been debunked, discovered, etc. So here's a fun video of Neil deGrasse Tyson talking about what'll happen if you stepped into a black hole:

 

 

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I was just going to say "Quasars" - since technically, the reason that quasars are so bright is because of the friction and incredible heat from all of the matter which is essentially being jettisoned into space. But my understanding is that the reason they do that is the black hole has tons of matter coming in (say an unlucky star) and from the gravitational force ends up tossing some of it about in the form of super luminescent streams of matter. That said, gravity is not a "mass" but a product of density and matter. So I don't think the question would be, "Can black holes be so dense that gravity cannot escape?" but rather, "Can black holes be so dense with so much matter and energy that the gravity at the center of them cannot ever be changed?" or "are black holes forever black holes?"

 

I think of it like this... it's thought that the "end all" to the universe in billions of years is heat death. Stars die out, stars collapse, energy comes to a halt and you're left with no suns to burn from no energy for them to burn. Generally those stars go supernova eventually when they get past the core elements and collapse under gravity. Stars are comprised of matter, gas, etc and burn super hot due to friction and fusion, etc. So what in the hell would be at the center of a black hole? Could the same thing happen to those? it's kind of something I've always wondered... are black holes super hot at the center? They are essentially the end all of a star having collapsed to an incredible point of super density, so is that just i? Does the materials in the black hole change under gravity or time? Time itself is different there due to gravity, so does that mean that the answer could be "eventually" or "maybe" but "not for a really effing long time."???

 

A buddy of mine who does astrophysics tried to explain to me this "wall of fire" they think might be past the event horizon of a black hole. He sent me a link to something from the NY times. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/science/....html?_r=1&

 

Although I haven't kept up on it and have no idea if that's already been debunked, discovered, etc. So here's a fun video of Neil deGrasse Tyson talking about what'll happen if you stepped into a black hole:

 

 

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To my mind though all of space/time is being stretched so even though you are being stretched out, the space time around you is suffering the same forces, therefore you may not feel any difference at all....yes..you're stretched but in an equivalent stretched space...so to you...you cross the event horizon and nothing seems to happen...