Vince_1972 Report post Posted March 28, 2015 Hello everyone! I'm new here After mechanical preparation on my Aston Martin Vantage, I start a new project on my Lamborghini Superleggera 530 2008. The pics: For the preparation, i don't want to work with turbo, but stay with a naturally aspirated engine. For me, a Lamborghini isn't a turbo car. After passing on the dyno (stock), we found 502 hp and 512 Nm Here's what I'm going to do it: 1. Changing the mapping completely tailor-made on the dyno (Alientech Italia) 2. Carbon air box (Carbonio or Tecnocraft or other) 3. diameter air intake 4. catalysts 5. silencer 6. ? the goal is to reach around 600 hp and 600 Nm If anyone has any advice for me or help me, I would be very happy Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince_1972 Report post Posted March 31, 2015 Here the stock dyno curve made March 18: I was warned that power is around 500 hp, it is 501hp / 512Nm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince_1972 Report post Posted March 31, 2015 Curve after Alientech's work: It is 540hp / 536Nm, a gain of 40hp and 23Nm Alientech did a lot of work! gained 40 hp on atmo, just with programming, it is very strong. It was a big concern for air flow, the engine chokes and filters are super grimey. Alientech has already made a principle of adjustment with a larger air flow (butterflies and air box) for following the preparation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabspeed_Motorsport Report post Posted April 1, 2015 Fabspeed Motorsport offers a great solution for the Superleggera!! Our Supersport X-Pipe Exhaust System removes the bulky and restrictive factory muffler system and replaces it with a quad resonated X-pipe that allows exhaust gasses to mix and create an intoxicating tone! While improving the sound of your Superleggera, the Supersport X-Pipe also picks up great power, improves throttle response and also saves 55lbs over the stock system. Please contact me directly or your closest authorized Fabspeed dealer for more details and pricing. Supersport X-Pipe Exhaust System Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince_1972 Report post Posted April 2, 2015 Thanks for your answer. Do you have a dyno curve? I'ts very important for me to have an idea of the curve. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabspeed_Motorsport Report post Posted April 3, 2015 Thanks for your answer. Do you have a dyno curve? I'ts very important for me to have an idea of the curve. Thanks If you are looking for more power I would recommend the Carbon Fiber Supercup Exhaust System, it is a bit more aggressive. This system contains one single carbon fiber wrapped resonator instead of the quad resonated X-Pipe. Please contact myself directly or your local Fabspeed authorized dealer for more information and pricing! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAUTLOS Report post Posted April 4, 2015 > Here the stock dyno curve made March 18: With a 530 HP rating, and somewhere in the 15-20% loss range, a stock 2008 SL tends to dyno at about 440 WHP -- nowhere near 500. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince_1972 Report post Posted April 4, 2015 > Here the stock dyno curve made March 18: With a 530 HP rating, and somewhere in the 15-20% loss range, a stock 2008 SL tends to dyno at about 440 WHP -- nowhere near 500. You are right when you speak of power to the wheel, that is, without correcting the losses! In Europe, it is rather the power to the engine, transmission losses calculated by the dynamometer as the powers announced by car manufacturers. The Supeleggera 530 is called "530" because it is the engine power it should have the engine (no wheels). But, unfortunately, the Superleggera 530 stock never much more than 500 hp / motor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince_1972 Report post Posted April 6, 2015 Throttle Body of the 570 received! I will replace those of my Superleggera that have a smaller diameter. I do not think to have a gain power but on the torque I think the difference will be significant! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambofan35 Report post Posted April 6, 2015 Throttle Body of the 570 received! I will replace those of my Superleggera that have a smaller diameter. I do not think to have a gain power but on the torque I think the difference will be significant! Are sure they are even any different? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince_1972 Report post Posted April 6, 2015 Yes, the THROTTLE BODY of the 5.2 L is the same the Audi R8 GT, with a bigger inner diameter The reference number 0f 500/520/530 is 7D133062 The reference number of 550/560/570 is 07L133062F Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kias Report post Posted April 9, 2015 Yes, the THROTTLE BODY of the 5.2 L is the same the Audi R8 GT, with a bigger inner diameter The reference number 0f 500/520/530 is 7D133062 The reference number of 550/560/570 is 07L133062F Hi. Can you share what type of setup you have with your Air Intakes (filter). Also how does that dyno accounts for the power on the front wheels sins its 4 WD? Thx. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAUTLOS Report post Posted April 10, 2015 > You are right when you speak of power to the wheel, that is, without correcting the losses! > In Europe, it is rather the power to the engine, transmission losses calculated by the dynamometer as the powers announced by car manufacturers. > > The Supeleggera 530 is called "530" because it is the engine power it should have the engine (no wheels). But, unfortunately, the Superleggera 530 stock never much more than 500 hp / motor. Your dyno screen shot shows a factor of 85% in the upper right corner. Assuming only 15% drive train loss is a bit low for the Gallardo's AWD. Factoring in a more realistic loss, your ~500 estimate is actually closer to ~520. Which in turn isn't very far off from the 'promised' 530 rating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince_1972 Report post Posted April 10, 2015 > You are right when you speak of power to the wheel, that is, without correcting the losses! > In Europe, it is rather the power to the engine, transmission losses calculated by the dynamometer as the powers announced by car manufacturers. > > The Supeleggera 530 is called "530" because it is the engine power it should have the engine (no wheels). But, unfortunately, the Superleggera 530 stock never much more than 500 hp / motor. Your dyno screen shot shows a factor of 85% in the upper right corner. Assuming only 15% drive train loss is a bit low for the Gallardo's AWD. Factoring in a more realistic loss, your ~500 estimate is actually closer to ~520. Which in turn isn't very far off from the 'promised' 530 rating. Hello, in fact, 85% have nothing to do with the loss. Only the operating range for power. We begin to 50km / h and stops before the rev. The loss is between 19-21% Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince_1972 Report post Posted April 10, 2015 Hi. Can you share what type of setup you have with your Air Intakes (filter). Also how does that dyno accounts for the power on the front wheels sins its 4 WD? Thx. Hi, For the diameter of the Throttle Bodyth isn't the same outside diameter as I thought ..., it should be mounted with an adapter because the outside diameter are not the same (74mm -> 82mm). The adapter will be completed Monday. OEM WHP: ~420 HP Mod ECU WHP: ~450 HP Mod ECU without filters WHP: ~460 HP I consider 20% loss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince_1972 Report post Posted April 10, 2015 We repeated several dynos. Here the old curve (502 hp/ 512 Nm) : The new, a little better than the last at 540 hp/ 536 Nm (543 hp/ 554 Nm): We made a dyno without filters for fun and we have 550 hp three sets of curves: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannibalACP82 Report post Posted April 18, 2015 600HP while staying NA is going to be pushing it but will be fun to follow! Also I must compliment you on having an S2000 for the track! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince_1972 Report post Posted April 19, 2015 600HP while staying NA is going to be pushing it but will be fun to follow! Also I must compliment you on having an S2000 for the track! Big thanks, Hannibal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince_1972 Report post Posted April 24, 2015 Exhaust "Kline Innovation" ordered Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griza Report post Posted April 24, 2015 Too bad the sound was overpowering the microphone. In person that exhaust must sound insane. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince_1972 Report post Posted May 3, 2015 The project continues. We're redoing the ECU and adapt certain parts to optimize the preparation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince_1972 Report post Posted May 15, 2015 The coils is changed, the injectors (4 bar instead of 3 bars) and the spark plugs by keeping the same used by vehicles of the Lamborghini races. Just to show the difference, the original Body Throttle is at the back of the picture, the big of the LP 570 was ahead with adaptation of the play we made. You can see the size difference! Some update soon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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