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As of today, I'm sure. It's not going to be much less, but the base MSRP will come in under the Aventador base price. Of course, there's a long time to go until production commences, so things can always change. They pretty much only bring Aventador up as a price reference because the two cars have wildly different missions. A spartan and lightweight V6 track animal vs. a luxurious and heavy street V12. Even at $400k it's extremely unlikely Ford will make any money on this program. Margins are so thin for them on this stuff that the tiniest deviation from plan can nuke any profitability.

Looks great overall in motion in the video. Hate the wheels.

Less than $400k and it's not going to be available anywhere near that date.

Nah, that's just the PR guys having a laugh at the LaLa name.

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Unlikely. 650S cars have already weighed in well under 3100 depending on spec. I suspect this car will be more like 2950 laden.

Have they given any details on MSRP?

1) Ha! Cheap performance upgrades and Ferrari mentioned together! Good luck with that. 2) I think people should recognize that stats are fun but they don't ultimately sell cars. If they did, you wouldn't be able find 650S cars (which will blow away pretty much everything outside of the hypercars) for $60-75k under MSRP asking prices with less than 200 miles.

It'll be more than 600, but not that much. HP isn't a big concern with this car. Way more focused on weight and aerodynamics. The motor can easily make 700+, it just can't do it and meet emissions.

The old Ford GT was about 3,450. 56 lbs of that was the stock mega muffler, so it was easy to drop 40+ lbs just with a cat back. The rest comes from the absolutely monstrous engine. The mod 5.4L, the blower and all it's accoutrements just weigh a ton. If you took an old Ford GT and threw in the new 5.2L with a reasonable exhaust it would have probably been 3,2XX curb. I couldn't tell you what the engine alone weighs, but the crate Ford Racing part package was 796 lbs, which is almost 250 lbs more than a crate Coyote package. I think the McLaren is legitimately the lightest car in the segment by a good bit. I expect 488 GTB to have a curb weight around 3,400. Huracán weighed by C&D was 3,423. McLaren doesn't seem to have the same fibbing disease as those two. My MP4 coupe was just over 3,200 on the scale with some fuel in it and I think Fikse's was just over 3100. 2,600 curb isn't realistic, but the Ford GT is light. It's a very minimalist performance machine.

Probably the best angle.

There's nothing to be gleaned from those videos because that's a show car. I'll leave it at that. I was standing right behind it when they drove it off the stage at press intro and I thought it sounded pretty cool. Can't take much from the 3.5L in the DP car either. Acoustic tuning for a street car is a totally different scenario.

If Ferrari is claiming the 488 has a dry weight of 3,014 lbs when outfitted with lightweight options, you can guarantee that U.S market cars will be every bit of 3,350+ when weighed on Earth. C&D weighed a Huracán and it was 3,423.

It'll be on the road in customer hands in late 2016. Ford sent a memo to dealers that noted: "· Customer Deposits - At this time we believe it is premature for dealers to request or accept deposits until allocation methodology is finalized and communicated" That's their first shot at telling even some of the bigger sized dealers to slow their roll on telling people "oh yeah, we'll be getting one."

There will be very, very minor differences. The car on display represents production intent, designed to meet all existing regulations, with 95%+ actual similarity to the production car. Because of the extremely compressed timeline between inception and production, just no time to mess around with a "concept." The car is going to be expensive, hard to get, and at this point any dealer telling you he'll sell you a spot for an allocation is doing so on a prayer that is a virtual lock to go unfulfilled. I also think barring intervention from the mothership, $50k over MSRP is a pipe dream. I would love to be wrong on that front, but many people paid more than $50k over MSRP for the last car during the initial frenzy, and they built vastly more 05/06 cars than they will be building of the new one. Virtually all the production of the last car stayed in the U.S. New car is global, which whittles it even further. I think people have to recognize that in a market where people are paying $250-300k for 05/06 GTs, it's wishful thinking that Ford would sell a full-CF car that is much higher performance at that price.

It's going to be extremely difficult to get one of these. Much, much harder than the last one.

What cars meet the following criteria: Carbon Fiber tub Full Carbon Fiber exterior body Dual Clutch Transmission Active aerodynamics Race-derived powerplant Fixed Seating The engine in the car is very, very close to the engine raced in the IMSA DP program. There aren't even interior panels; the carbon you see is the tub itself. They've given a minimal description of performance capabilities of the car at this point, but it's only mission is to go very, very fast around a race track. It's a pretty thinly veiled race car if you look at it closely, so anyone thinking the car will be $200k is dreaming. You can't touch an 05/06 GT for that unless it has 20k+ miles. These will be built in significantly less quantity than those, and it's on a completely different level of performance.

He said "one of the best" but for some reason it's getting attributed as him saying THE best. It will be nowhere near the power-to-weight of something like LaLa or P1, but it will be an absolutely brutal car around a race track lap after lap. The car is light. It's a much higher performance vehicle than people are anticipating. 458 Speciale is really the benchmark overall driving experience, 650S also more of a overall stat benchmark. It is also pretty small. I've been up close and personal with it several times and it just looks bigger than it is in pictures because the greenhouse is so low and inboard.

Interesting color. Great pics.

But they'll spend $400k on a used one. I sold a Ford GT for $440k. A number of others have done the same. Ford GT/GT40 lineage carries a lot of cachet, and it's growing, not declining.

A top flight LMP1 team will definitely spend $100 mil annually. Lamborghini would seem ill-suited to race in LMP1 just because of the current situation with Audi and Porsche. If Audi is legitimately winding down their LMP1 program for an F1 effort, I have to assume it's because of a corporate desire to give Porsche the best possible chance at overall victory. If they threw in a Lamborghini effort, I have a hard time believing it would be anything but a token little brother, and therefore disappointing, effort. But I'm always in the camp of the more manufacturers involved the better.

Not that I think it would have won anyways, but it's pretty much impossible for a truly costly car to win this. I was at the photo shoot and track test for PCOTY last year and it really only came down to the Fiesta ST, SLS Black Series and the Corvette. It was immediately clear that even though everyone loved the SLS Black Series, the massive price tag ultimately disqualified it. Same thing would have happened with the Huracan if it had been considered, IMO, and is likely a large part of the reason the 458 Speciale didn't win. The criticisms of the Speciale were pretty weak (too much attention, too loud...is this performance car or daily driver of the year?) Huracan would have also been extremely ill-suited to the track R&T uses, which is a fairly basic route using an old supplemental runway at a very crappy airport, but I still would have sent it if I was Lambo. For what it's worth, I was told the popular vote this year was that the 2015 Mustang be declared the winner, but senior editor override mandated it be the GT3.