TT Failures?

Out of curiosity, has there been many catastrophic failures with the TT kits we often hear about? I know the big name tuners offer warranties which is great but is anyone having to actually use them?

 

Its completely normal to have issues when you are always pushing the envelope with high horsepower machines but it seems its not discussed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Out of curiosity, has there been many catastrophic failures with the TT kits we often hear about? I know the big name tuners offer warranties which is great but is anyone having to actually use them?

 

Its completely normal to have issues when you are always pushing the envelope with high horsepower machines but it seems its not discussed.

 

i doubt anyone would actually admit it. but id be curious as well.

 

id also like to see those warranties tested. not that id like someone to have issues. ive had my own in the past and they are no fun.

look up a thread by Ben. he had something go wrong.

 

 

Mine has not had a problem.

No problems with mine.

How many tt kits are on the road total? 25? 35? 45?

i doubt anyone would actually admit it. but id be curious as well.

 

TT failures are like the 800lb Gorilla in the room. Everyone knows it's there but noone wants to acknowledges it. Even one failure is enough to scare away potential customers, no matter the root cause.

 

 

I think lots of people experience small issues but I think the number of large failure type issues are small in comparison to the number of TT'd cars when done by reputable shops.

Almost three years on my G-TT, 9k miles, 14k total, no issues with the install, none with the car itself either(killer clutch!!). The G is a great platform for tuning.

I know there was a problem with a Heffner TT car that was newly built, I believe one of the rod bearings went on the yellow TT Spider. I know Ben had some problems, however his car was done like 4 years ago and he is the 3rd owner. I know that the UGR Nera TT went boom @ the Miami event, and that 3 of their 4 cars went down @ the Texas mile including one catching fire.

I know there was a problem with a Heffner TT car that was newly built, I believe one of the rod bearings went on the yellow TT Spider. I know Ben had some problems, however his car was done like 4 years ago and he is the 3rd owner. I know that the UGR Nera TT went boom @ the Miami event, and that 3 of their 4 cars went down @ the Texas mile including one catching fire.

 

At the Miami runway event I made at least 6 200mph passes, plus a race from a dig to vmax. Also did a bunch 200mph passes at the Car and Driver shootout, plus at least 20 passes at the strip, two track days, and a couple of balls out runs to Miami.

Almost three years on my G-TT, 9k miles, no issues with the install, none with the car itself either(killer clutch!!). The G is a great platform for tuning.

 

Are you still on the same clutch? I absolutely cannot believe that. That is crazy considering how hard you drive the car.

Are you still on the same clutch? I absolutely cannot believe that. That is crazy considering how hard you drive the car.

 

Whoa, I drive it niiice and smooth, just like to go fast once in awhile...... yep same clutch, still feels solid too!

I know that the UGR Nera TT went boom @ the Miami event, and that 3 of their 4 cars went down @ the Texas mile including one catching fire.

 

I don't know anything about the Nera, but one of the cars you are referring to was a Viper that the customer burned a stock clutch up on at the starting line doing a burnout. I wouldn't call that TT related or Lambo related. The yellow one was going for broke when it went boom. I do know that SW's TTG had no issues and Kyle's TTG had no issues and set a Lamborghini record in the process and, in my opinion, was the most impressive car there. Like was said, if people decide to push things, the likelyhood of issues goes up. I agree that the G has proven to be a great platform to TT. I can't wait to have one myself one day. From my research, these have proven to be very reliable high hp packages, but use someone like UGR, Heffner, or DLM. I'd have to think there are over 60 TTG's out there. I think Heffner has probably done 30+, and UGR is in that same neighborhood, and DLM has done a few too. Having a warranty would be a must.

Whoa, I drive it niiice and smooth, just like to go fast once in awhile...... yep same clutch, still feels solid too!

 

Yes, you do. I would have just assumed that based on your power level and the volume of WOT it would have started to wear in that time frame. That's a tough bastard.

Interesting thread, keep posting experience?

 

How many build ?

I like the honesty here. I really believe that people should always remain honest about there experiences. I don't think a failure or issues with a TT build will be bad for business.

 

Anyone plunking down the coin for this should be very aware that "Shizz Happens" its just part of the game. If they aren't aware of it then they haven't been around high performance cars much and might need to open their eyes a bit.

 

I could care less about which tuner has more issues, its not about that at all. I was just curious if the warranties cover these sorts of things.

 

The last thing you want is a 2 year warranty in tact, throw a bearing and the tuner says that its not covered. That would be a bad scenario. Naturally, if you started messing with the tune and created an issue then so be it.

 

This is kind of what I was looking to hear about

 

 

As said above, talk to Ben about his experience.

I've had 2 heffner cars 40,000 plus miles no

engine problems!

I don't know anything about the Nera, but one of the cars you are referring to was a Viper that the customer burned a stock clutch up on at the starting line doing a burnout. I wouldn't call that TT related or Lambo related. The yellow one was going for broke when it went boom. I do know that SW's TTG had no issues and Kyle's TTG had no issues and set a Lamborghini record in the process and, in my opinion, was the most impressive car there. Like was said, if people decide to push things, the likelyhood of issues goes up. I agree that the G has proven to be a great platform to TT. I can't wait to have one myself one day. From my research, these have proven to be very reliable high hp packages, but use someone like UGR, Heffner, or DLM. I'd have to think there are over 60 TTG's out there. I think Heffner has probably done 30+, and UGR is in that same neighborhood, and DLM has done a few too. Having a warranty would be a must.

heffner has far more tt cars on the road then UGR. At the Texas mile 1 gallardo caught fire..another blew up..one car was kept running by using parts off another..

Can someone post the link to the "Ben" postings? The search button is failing me.

heffner has far more tt cars on the road then UGR. At the Texas mile 1 gallardo caught fire..another blew up..one car was kept running by using parts off another..

 

If you don't know exactly how many TT cars Heffner has done and exactly how many another tuner has done then you can't say that. I have already started my research. I'm not saying I have picked a tuner, but it may suprise you how many cars UGR already has on the road.

 

P.S. You are referring to the same car.

 

heffner has far more tt cars on the road then UGR. At the Texas mile 1 gallardo caught fire..another blew up..one car was kept running by using parts off another..

 

 

Humm, seems like bad info. I don't think this is accurate.

heffner has far more tt cars on the road then UGR. At the Texas mile 1 gallardo caught fire..another blew up..one car was kept running by using parts off another..

 

The car that blew was the same one that caught fire.

 

Kyle's car needed nothing the whole weekend, though we did check the plugs a couple times as we cranked the tune up just to make sure everything is ok.

 

Jonah's black car had a minor issue that in the interest of not making it a major issue we parked it. If we had parts on hand we would have kept running it.

 

I dont think any of these "race" cars are a good benchmark for "street" level reliability as they go out there to do one thing, set records. The engines are pushed to the limits (and beyond to areas that we previously haven't). Improvements and upgrades to the street packages have come about from what has been learned at the track. We will be out again in March and yes there is a chance we could break something. Thats racing! You push it, break it, make it stronger, and keep pushing it higher!

 

The street cars (and there are a lot of them out there now) have all been 100% reliable. Anyone taking delivery of a setup tuned for 850-1000hp on pump (depending on package) or 11-1300hp on race (again depending on package) should rest a bit easier knowing that not only is it under warranty, but we have pushed/stressed that setup well above and beyond what they are driving with good results.

 

Sounds like Jason's customers overall have been happy with their reliability and so have the UGR guys. Seems like a win to me?

 

 

John Reed

Kyle's car needed nothing the whole weekend, though we did check the plugs a couple times as we cranked the tune up just to make sure everything is ok.

 

Don't want to get side-tracked from the subject at hand, but isn't Kyle's car the original UGR one as well? That car impressed the hell out of me at the mile! That thing is INSANE FAST!!

 

I agree with your comment about applying what is learned from racing to the street cars being built. If Lamborghini went out a blew an engine in a race car, that wouldn't mean their street cars are unreliable! Every car manufacture in the world has blown engines up. And you can bet they would apply what they learned to building a better product. I have respect for any tuner or manufacture that pushes the limits of their product and applies what they learned to building something even better. That's how any great product evolves.