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Travis

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  1. actually, mine used ta say so - but I know there have been format changes, etc... Allan - I looked for the THREAD you mention before I posted the other reply, but didn't see it - where has it moved to - I believe it WAS in the GENERAL - STICKIES area - ~T~
  2. sorry for the hi-jack - just noticed that all us Jalpa owners on this thread are "Official LP Member" rather than "Lambo Owner" - guess I know my place now - back in the 'double-wide on the lower 40' - ~T~
  3. FINALLY got it - +++++++++++++++++++++ Vehicle Description Acquired from an investment-grade collection of 1960s cars purchased together, I am offering for sale the very first Lamborghini 400GT 2+2: Serial Number 0403, Engine Number 0331. This is the first 400 GT 2+2 of 247 produced. Want proof?: Check the Lamborghini Registry at **** http://www.lamborghiniregistry.com/400GT2+...+2Registry.html **** . Look under ?0403? and read the words: ?Ext. color: Dark Grey, Description: Prod. #1, Originally Grigio Saint-Vincent, Originally to Italy. At one time Red with a Tan Leather Interior. Last seen at Pebble Beach concours USA. The first 400GT 2+2.? Pedigree: This car is sold with a Letter of Authenticity from Lamborghini stating that it is the first 400 GT 2+2 built. In the 1980s and 1990s it was painted red. Thanks to meticulous restoration by Ultimate Motorworks of Orlando Florida, it has been returned to the original dark silver metallic with Palomino interior. History: 0403 spent most of its life as a fine driver in California, then was purchased by an East Coast enthusiast in 1993. A few years later, sold to a major collector in Pennsylvania, who realized its historical value and delivered it to Ultimate Motorworks of Orlando Florida. There, it received a rotisserie/frame-off, nut and bolt restoration. More than $250,000 was spent bringing it back to concours condition, taking over 3 years to complete. All work was documented with photographs filling 11 photo albums. Any concerns about the metal or other fittings resulted in fabrication of new parts from scratch by master craftsmen operating under ?cost-no-object? instructions that only a true aficionado would authorize. Everything worn or in need of repair was replaced. The entire drivetrain from engine and clutch, to transmission and rear have been rebuilt to factory specification. Do not look for polished frame rails or Teflon coated parts; as this car looks like it did in 1966 underneath, totally as it was produced in 1966. Upon completion, the car was displayed at Pebble Beach. At Amelia Island- it took first in class, and has also won a number of other concours events. Condition: The car looks exactly the same as first revealed to the public in March 1966 in Geneva, where it was featured alongside the first Miura. Paint Finish: Perfect, not a single blemish. Interior: As good as the paint. Chrome: Stunning. The highest quality finish, straight where it should be, curved where it should be. The car has been driven less than 100 miles since restoration. Storage/Care: Always stored in a climate controlled environment, part of a multi-million dollar collection. Historical Significance: What makes this car perhaps the most significant of all Lamborghinis? It was the first of the improved 350/ 400 series cars. It has a smooth running powerful 12 cylinder engine; increased headroom to an overall height of 50.6 inches, allowing drivers 5'7'' and taller to fit in comfortably, without the headroom or cramped leg issues of prior cars; Trunk capacity increased; single fuel tank 23 gallons, instead of two 10.5 tanks; steel body created a more rigid structure than aluminum of prior cars, making the 400 GT 2+2 quieter; most significant: the first Lamborghini proprietary 5-speed transmission that replaced the troublesome ZF unit of earlier models. Yes, the 350 GT was a spectacular car in its own right, a great collectible. The 400 GT 2+2 though was more civilized, in keeping with its designation as a Superleggera. Value today, value tomorrow: Four years ago a Condition 2 regular production 400 GT 2+2 (No. 0520) was sold for $75,600. That sale was reviewed by Sports Car Market (SCM, May 2002). Then, SCM valued these cars at a top figure of $60,000, though as you see, collectors paid substantially more, which tells you something. Read the story at **** http://www.sportscarmarket.com/profiles/20...rini/index.html **** Remember, back in 2002, values of 1960s collectible cars were only a fraction of what they are today. SCM reviewed an unremarkable ?average? car, a true Condition 2. Why was the pri ce paid then higher than SCM expected? In my view, the reason is scarcity. Surely SCM can determine an upper range based upon historical data and trends, but reality overides that when discussing hard to find vehicle like the 400 GT 2+2. Thus, SCM?s upper limit becomes a guide, not a ceiling on value. When you Google ?Lamborghini 400 GT 2+2 for sale? the results reveal only two (2) for sale right now, other than mine. See them at **** http://www.carclassic.com/model.asp?Marque...el=400+GT+2%2B2 **** I will discuss each and contrast to 0403. The first car (DU 38), is not an original motor example, for sale in Europe for $141,623.00 (or 115,000 EURO), described in ?good condition?, with ?some cosmetic work to do it justice.? While the original engine is available it admittedly needs a complete rebuild, which is a substantial undertaking, assuming parts can be located. The second car (DT 58) for sale in Paris, France, at $153,938.00, (125,000 EURO) is nicer. The listing says: ?A similar car has recently been sold by Bonhams for 160,000 Euros and the condition was definitely far from being as nice as this one.? Assuming it is in Condition 1 however, it still is not the first produced car. Replacement: While parts are often advertised and the occasional ?runner? pops up for sale, the above listings I?ve included are the ONLY two cars that Google can find for sale. Of those, the second could be considered Condition 1 if the listing is correct, though I consider it doubtful that it comes to my car, given the attention to detail Ultimate Motorworks devoted to the restoration. What does this all mean? Ask yourself why so few are for sale. Why is even a Condition 2 offered at $141,000 and a stated Condition 1 not historically significant example, listed for $153,000? The reason is clear: these cars are a pleasure to look at and an even bigger pleasure to drive. Their values are appreciating as enthusiasts and collectors discover what a value they are compared to other hyper-valued vehicles today. Remember too that the other cars are in Europe! Pricing: In pricing this car, I considered the historic significance primary and the restoration a close second. I considered the show history from Pebble Beach and Amelia Island win, and the limited production. I compared my car to the 350 GTs which have higher prices due to their aluminum construction and 2 seat configuration, yet they don?t feature improvements of the 400 GT 2+2. Then I asked myself where my car, ?0403? fits in. To me, this car is at least as valuable as any 350 GT in Condition 1, and probably worth more. Comparable cars of its day: Aston Martin DB6 (140 produced, SCM July 2004 reviewed the sale of a Volante which sold for $192,088 at Christie?s) see: **** http://www.sportscarmarket.com/profiles/20...lish/index.html **** Ferrari Lusso (350 produced. SCM, September 2005 reviewed the sale of a Rob Walker-owned Lusso, which brought $362,219, see: **** http://www.sportscarmarket.com/profiles/20...rari/index.html **** Where will this car sell for in the future? It is uncertain, but in my opinion $400,000 or more within 3 years given current market trends is not an unreasonable figure. In a current market where a POS or Hemi Cuda ?examples? bring $300,000 and ?historically important/significant? vehicles always smash records, the first 400 GT 2+2 certainly commands a premium. Perhaps you eBay buyers will agree. Cost to duplicate: Of course there is only one ?first? production car, and this is it, but assuming that were not the issue, what would it cost to do another 400 GT 2+2 to concours level standards? First, you must find a car, easier said than done. Second, the car selected would be either complete and ready for restoration, or incomplete and subject to a much higher budget for finding difficult to locate parts. Expect to pay $70-90,000 for a Condition 3 car, $30-40,000 for parts and $80-100,000 for the labor and unexpected needs for a restoration that falls short of rotisserie/frame-off standards. If you find a shop that has the expertise, time and willingness to take on the project and if you have three years to do the job right and source parts, you might enjoy your car in mid-2009. When finished, you have a beautiful put-together car, but one that still will never be the first production 400 GT 2+2. You cannot manufacture provenance. And so, now is your opportunity to own the car everyone else will always want, but only one person can own. Number 1, Lamborghini 400 GT 2+2, 0403. Please feel free to e-mail questions to eBay or privately at [email protected] or call 215 817 0713. Please do not ask reserve as it will not be revealed, except through bidding. Bidders with any negative feedback will not be accepted. The auction will not be ended early. ****NOTE:I have 130 hi-resolution pictures taken last week which are available for viewing at *** http://community.webshots.com/album/548894867gAQqmb/1 *** Good luck and good bidding!
  4. Hovik - thanx - I was trying to c/p some of the info & pics but it wouldn't stop loading so I could - :x :x ~T~
  5. item #4635041555 interesting justification of the $250,000 Buy It Now price - ~T~
  6. I've had various ones for about a year now as well as a few other people have had them also - on some threads where there is an attachment - the sig won't show up after that post - glitch - or sinister secret plot to overthrow the site admin - only the SHADOW knows - the pics just haven't caught on as much here as other sites - I tried to link one that had music in it & it wouldn't work here - but it did on another site - ?????????? oh well - ~T~
  7. it seems like a company in California made something so you could get rid of the boxes - a guy on the "old" forum had them & I inquired about the price - not cheap - but doable - ya might hafta search the archives on L/T to find out who it was - I think the guy sold the Jalpa after he'd done a buncha mods to it??? ~T~
  8. o.k - o.k. - o.k. - I get it - = = = = = = = = = = APRIL FOOLS huh? if not - I'm sure they'll want a lil more proof than the one pic - which, by the way, is a nice color - the mistake came out good - ~T~
  9. some CRAZEEEEE drivin' !!!!!!!!! http://www.ezprezzo.com/videoclips/isuzu_gemini.html ~T~
  10. MODS: PLEASE DELETE THIS THREAD. :butthead: actually this is prob the best method - thanx -
  11. already done - check yer box - ~T~
  12. thank you kind sir - and Doc Rox sez "hi" too - sorry - only one size (but The Limey sez she CAN be stretched some - not sure what he meant by that tho??) ~T~
  13. ok - enjoy - remember - she helped this site way back when - people complaining about her was one of the main reasons I left the "old" site & brunged a few good ol'boyz wit me! - BUTTTTTT - the avatar size limit here wouldn't let me use her for my av - (sorta ironic huh - leave a site because of her & then can't use her!!) so I put her in the sig for awhile - not very risque compared to some new ones - but a FIRST! heh hehhhhh oh yeah - she really IS my Sis - so mind'jer mannerz!! ~T~
  14. yeah yeah Joe - "once upon a time... - :mrgreen: seriously - on the subject of avatars- as one who back in the Dark Ages had taken a lotta smack for my avatar of Sis - I hafta point out tho, that Sis had a "reason" for her RIDE - recently, I've hadda be careful here at work with some of the others posted - I've posted a few naughties myself & will be a lil' mo kareful in thuh future!! ~T~
  15. I believe Ben is a sponsor here - if not - check his company out - "Exotic Warr Co" or similar to that - ~T~
  16. my SIG is creepy?? most people think my AVATAR is that - ('cept for The Limey - he's got thuh hotz fer me) ~T~
  17. welcome Chris - your service dept. has an excellent reputation - ~T~
  18. ok - so is everybody agreeing that the Limey is "STUPID" - or that the 'POS is a POS? ~T~
  19. the Limey quoteth: welllllllll - ~T~
  20. Jabbas World - yep - that was the one that I was talking about that wanted all the proof after I posted the same pic I had put on at least 4 Lambo forums/registers - yet when I suggested a better way of proof - NOPE - gotta have pics that can be faked!! some good material & people there tho, and some of the info is "borrowed" & posted here - I haven't been on it for several months - still think voluntary 'proof' & title - unless someone starts getting stewpid again - then, as in 'real life' - call'em out on it!! not all requests for pics are hostile - most pic requests I've seen are in excitement over someone getting a new car or mod - i.e. we're proud FOR them, not DEMANDING PROOF OF OWNERSHIP - sorta like -"oh, you had a baby - congrats - let's see pics of him/her" I can only remember 2-3 times in almost a year's time when the request was more of a "put up or shut up" demand! So hopefully newbies won't get offended by requests. ~T~
  21. I think the "non-owners" that have posted in this thread have nothing to worry about & shouldn't feel degraded by the mentioned comments - I'll hafta go back & re-read the whole post, but I don't believe the intention was as harsh as the words portrayed - another disadvantage of the net -"words" can be interpreted in many different ways - & the "mechanically challanged owners" like myself - I don't care about the title under my name - other sites have that - I don't pass on info to others about stuff I know nothing about, and expect the same from others, but as pointed out - there have been several instances where posers gave bad advice to real owners - but to an extent, the owner will need to police that type of info himself as even an "owner" can give bad advice just as well - if someone wants the title under their name - fine with me - I like the one I have now (thanx to an unknown mod :supz:) ~T~
  22. I had gone to that section but didn't click the VIEW ALL button, or whatever it is, & didn't see any names - duh skinny ????? - I believe it was said that he had moved & hasn't posted in months?? still listed - I know he had a lot to do with the setting up of the site (Allan always blamed bugs on him :mrgreen:) - is he back - hope so -he had some good pics ~T~
  23. I had mentioned this when I posted the info on oils - how'za bout just changing title of the "Detailing" section, which has almost no action, to a "General Tech, Detailing, etc." type of section so that non-model specific info can be posted - the "GENERAL section probably SHOULD be for this, but the tech type info that gets posted there is often lost in the 'gossip' stuff & gets buried/moved to tha back pages rather quickly - if you miss a coupla days reading, you might miss the thread completely - stuff like oil, tires (a new line by someone), batteries, detailing products, get my drift - could be posted/discussed here & someone wouldn't hafta dig thru 50 pages of posers being busted - I know there's a "SEARCH" function - but sometimes you might wanna just browse or you might just happen to see info on the new LED lights while you're checking on the type of polish that is recommended - a way to make info easier to find without adding more sections - it has been mentioned that the reading here is becoming boring - when I first joined 'the' old site, it was for tech info - and there was a lot of it - as I read more & got into the social flow of that site & then this site, a lotta the 'research' sorta took a back seat, but when I did have a question, it was hard to find an answer, so it became easier to simply start a new thread with the same question that probably had already been aswered before - sometimes you wanna be entertained, sometimes it's bizness & you jess wanna get info really quick - so you can go to a LARGE site & dig dig dig, or go to a smaller site (or section of) and altho fewer people are there, possibly find the info quicker since there is less stuff to wade thru (like my stupid jokes, etc.) - my two cents - :-k ~T~
  24. oops - just saw someone else had requested the same thing in the "SUGGESTIONS" section where I actually shoulda posted this - duhhhhh - ~T~
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