Speaking of guns (again)... Another shooting

Source: ABC News.

 

The 73-year-old man charged with murder in the shooting at a Jewish community center and retirement community in Overland Park, Kansas, that left three people dead is reportedly the former Grand Dragon of the Carolina Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.

 

Fraiser Glenn Cross Jr., of Aurora, Mo., was taken into custody in the parking lot of an elementary school near the scene of the shootings, and was booked on a charge of first degree murder, according to the Johnson County, Kansas, Sheriff's Office.

 

Cross is an alias for Frasier Glenn Miller, the former KKK leader, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

 

In a statement released tonight, the SPLC said it was able to identify Cross as Miller after a phone conversation with Miller's wife, Marge, in which she told them police had come to her home and told her that her husband had been arrested in the shootings.

 

The address listed by the sheriff's office for Cross is the same address Frazier Glenn Miller used when filing candidate papers to run for Congress in Missouri in 2006 and when he sued the secretary of state for refusing to let him on the ballot.

 

Among the three people killed in the shootinngs were a 14-year-old Eagle Scout and his grandfather, according to the family of the two.

 

"It is with deep sadness that we confirm the tragic loss of Dr. William Lewis Corporon and Reat Griffin Underwood (Losen) who died as a result of the injuries they sustained in today's shooting at the Jewish Community Center. Dr. Corporon was Reat's Grandfather, whom he loved very much," said a statement signed "Will Corporon, Son and Uncle."

 

The two were shot at the town's Jewish Community Center, Overland Park Police Chief John Douglass said. One died at the scene and the other died after being taken to a hospital, he said.

 

The third victim was a woman who was shot at Village Shalom retirement community, Douglass said. She died on the scene.

 

It was believed the shooter fired at two other people, but neither was hit, the police chief said.

 

"We have no indication that he knew the victims," Douglass said.

 

"We're investigating it as a hate crime, we're investigating it as a criminal act, we haven't ruled out anything," Overland Park Police Chief John Douglass said.

 

"There was a shotgun that was involved," he said. "We are exploring the possibility that a handgun was involved in the shooting at the two persons that he missed, and we are looking at the possibility of an assault rifle."

 

According to the family statement, Underwood was a freshman at Blue Valley High School, and participated in debate, theatre "and had a beautiful voice. Reat had a passion for life, and touched so many people in his young age." He was an Eagle Scout and "loved spending time camping and hunting with his Grandfather, Father, and brother," the statement said.

 

Corporon practiced family medicine in Marlow and Duncan, Okla., from 1976 through 2003, before moving with his wife to the Kansas City area to be closer to their grandchildren, the statement said.

 

Police had still not released the identities of the victims late this evening, but Rev. Adam Hamilton of the United Methodist Church of the Resurrection in Leawood said the two male victims were members of the church.

 

Hamilton led prayers for the victims' family this afternoon during Palm Sunday services.

 

The Jewish Community Center confirmed the shooting on its Facebook page and said it occurred near the Lewis and Shirley White Theater entrance and that the building was put on lockdown. According to the center's website, a production of "To Kill a Mockingbird" was scheduled to start at 2 p.m.

 

The center released a statement explaining that the shooting occurred in the parking lot.

 

"Our hearts go out to the families who have suffered loss on this tragic day," read the statement in part. "Our heartfelt gratitude as well to all those in Kansas City and around the world who have expressed sympathy, concern and support."

 

With the play scheduled to start, and being the eve of Passover, which starts Monday, the community center was busy when the shooting broke out.

 

Edward Dannewitz, who said his child was in the center when the attack happened, was shocked to hear what happened.

 

"We dropped our daughter off for dance practice and took our other daughter to Chuck E Cheese. The next thing you know, we're seeing updates on the phone saying that there's a shooting at the JCC," he said. "I figured this was one of the safest places I could drop my kid off at, and apparently it's not."

 

Rabbi Arthur Nemitoff, senior rabbi at The Temple, Congregation B'nai Jehudah, located about a mile from the Jewish Community Center told ABC News that police arrived after the shooting around 1:45 p.m. and have stationed a police car there as a precautionary measure.

 

Kansas Rep. Kevin Yoder said he was "heartbroken" over the shootings.

 

"Brooke and I send our prayers and thoughts to the families and victims of this tragedy and our office stands ready to provide any needed assistance," Yoder said in a statement.

 

As a matter of protocol the Los Angeles Police Department has stepped up patrols around Jewish-oriented locations. The New York Police Department said it was already in a heightened state of alert due to Passover holiday.

We're in the crazy weeks of April...

Yup. Easter and Hitler's Birthday the same day. Things are bound to get a bit crazy. Truly a shame for those involved. Thoughts and prayers to the family who lost their son and father.

Yup. Easter and Hitler's Birthday the same day. Things are bound to get a bit crazy. Truly a shame for those involved. Thoughts and prayers to the family who lost their son and father.

 

Don't forget MLK, columbine, virginia tech, Waco and Oklahoma City.

Don't forget MLK, columbine, virginia tech, Waco and Oklahoma City.

 

So Americans go violent (more than usual) on Easter?

So Americans go violent (more than usual) on Easter?

It's this weird phenomena around this time of the year when the weather gets warm some of the crazies thaw out...

Unlike Mexico where beheadings, overpass hangings and mass graves are as normal as an afternoon coffee break.

See I can generalize too

Don't forget MLK, columbine, virginia tech, Waco and Oklahoma City.

 

I figured those already tied into the whole "Hitler's Birthday" timing but yeah.

It's this weird phenomena around this time of the year when the weather gets warm some of the crazies thaw out...

Unlike Mexico where beheadings, overpass hangings and mass graves are as normal as an afternoon coffee break.

See I can generalize too

 

Hahaha.

It's this weird phenomena around this time of the year when the weather gets warm some of the crazies thaw out...

Unlike Mexico where beheadings, overpass hangings and mass graves are as normal as an afternoon coffee break.

See I can generalize too

 

 

Yeah you can generalize, no problem.

 

The fact is that 90% of the violence since 2006 is thanks to the war between the Mexican government and the Cartels. Unlike the tragic events like Columbine, Aurora, Virgina Tech, etc. caused by civilians with guns and some of them with serious menthal issues.

 

Like you said: beheadings, overpass hanging, mass graves, etc. all that is the result of disputes between Cartels or the government. No common civilians mass murdering their coworks, school mates or random people.

Yeah you can generalize, no problem.

 

The fact is that 90% of the violence since 2006 is thanks to the war between the Mexican government and the Cartels. Unlike the tragic events like Columbine, Aurora, Virgina Tech, etc. caused by civilians with guns and some of them with serious menthal issues.

 

Like you said: beheadings, overpass hanging, mass graves, etc. all that is the result of disputes between Cartels or the government. No common civilians mass murdering their coworks, school mates or random people.

 

 

 

 

Yes, no people with mental issues in Mexico. Perfectly safe unless you are involved with the cartels. LOL.

Yeah you can generalize, no problem.

 

The fact is that 90% of the violence since 2006 is thanks to the war between the Mexican government and the Cartels. Unlike the tragic events like Columbine, Aurora, Virgina Tech, etc. caused by civilians with guns and some of them with serious menthal issues.

 

Like you said: beheadings, overpass hanging, mass graves, etc. all that is the result of disputes between Cartels or the government. No common civilians mass murdering their coworks, school mates or random people.

 

As i don't have time to get into this fully,

 

I'll just ask, do the nearly 100 journalists killed or rendered missing from reporting on Cartel news and information qualify as cartel or government statistics?

 

But hey, the 172% increase in civilian deaths in 12 months probably isn't what you were referring to was it?

http://www.laht.com/article.asp?CategoryId...rticleId=384294

 

Or maybe it's the 70,000 people that have been killed since 2007 in drug related violence.

 

Like I said, don't have time to dig into it too deep, but this should suffice.

 

 

Yes, no people with mental issues in Mexico. Perfectly safe unless you are involved with the cartels. LOL.

 

Yes. But hey!! Cheer up we have crazy psycopath killers too

3rd victim is Catholic. So he went 3 for 3.

3rd victim is Catholic. So he went 3 for 3.

 

Technically qualified as a Hate Crime, and rightfully so. Too bad someone didn't have a piece with them and ended that Nazi scum.

The fact is that 90% of the violence since 2006 is thanks to the war between the Mexican government and the Cartels.

Ah well then it's all good then! I was under this weird impression that cartel members were something other then armed civilians with mental health issues. Im sure id rather have to worry about being pulled into a van in the street and having my head chopped off unarmed then being armed then when some emotional 16 year old walks into a mall and starts shooting and ready to defend myself.

Ah well then it's all good then! I was under this weird impression that cartel members were something other then armed civilians with mental health issues. Im sure id rather have to worry about being pulled into a van in the street and having my head chopped off unarmed then being armed then when some emotional 16 year old walks into a mall and starts shooting and ready to defend myself.

 

A good part of them have psycopath complex. Lack of remorse, enjoy kill their victims and no regrets. While others are forced to work for them. For example los Zetas using deadly force had taken control of many long time criminal gangs. That means if you dont work for them they will murder him/her or their family.

 

On one side we have a f*cked up person that murder people because work problem, being bullied, etc. While in the Cartels they kill because is their "job"

 

Anyways we are derailing the thread. So... lets keep moving to the main topic!

I'd rather deal with an occasional movie theater shooter than have the cartels constantly coming in my business telling me to pay them $25K a month or else my families heads will all be chopped off and rolled onto a disco floor if I don't.

On one side we have a f*cked up person that murder people because work problem, being bullied, etc. While in the Cartels they kill because is their "job"

 

I'm just curious, but do you think there is a justifiable difference? Would you prefer to protect yourself or rely upon others for your protection.

 

That isn't meant to be inflammatory, just intellectual curiosity. You're entitled to your opinion, but I think you'll find most from the States will disagree with you. I'd like to hear more from others outside the States.

I'm just curious, but do you think there is a justifiable difference? Would you prefer to protect yourself or rely upon others for your protection.

 

That isn't meant to be inflammatory, just intellectual curiosity. You're entitled to your opinion, but I think you'll find most from the States will disagree with you. I'd like to hear more from others outside the States.

 

Health benefits. The cartel members got the right employer.

I'm just curious, but do you think there is a justifiable difference? Would you prefer to protect yourself or rely upon others for your protection.

 

That isn't meant to be inflammatory, just intellectual curiosity. You're entitled to your opinion, but I think you'll find most from the States will disagree with you. I'd like to hear more from others outside the States.

 

Well Destructo ask and I´ll try my best to answer those questions.

Well Destructo ask and I´ll try my best to answer those questions.

 

I think he already did...

Huh?

 

Pardon my confusion moment.

News now says that all three victims were Christians. fcuking moron!

News now says that all three victims were Christians. fcuking moron!

 

Ex-military kicked out because his believes.

A ranch adapted a military trainning camp.

High ranked KKK member

 

Why this kind of people still exist?

He obtained firearms from a "straw buyer," a middleman with a clean record who could buy weapons legally and then sell or give them to Cross, allowing Cross to avoid federal background checks, a U.S. law enforcement official said. He had three guns when he was arrested Sunday, authorities said.

 

I wondered how he was able to purchase guns with a dishonorable discharge.