Jim G

Too bad the new V12 will probably be way to expensive. I hope I'm wrong.

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3158/ams2110nardo6.jpg This link should work, sorry

Nardò High Speed Test 2010 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3...2110nardo6.jpg BMW Alpina B5 Biturbo -Vmax.: 312,6 km/h -0-100 km/h in 4,76 s -0-200 km/h in 15,23 s -0-300 km/h in 55,94 s Bentley Continental Supersports -Vmax.: 326,1 km/h -0-100 km/h in 3,91 s -0-200 km/h in 13,24 s -0-300 km/h in 41,83 s Ferrari 458 Italia -Vmax.: 330,49 km/h -0-100 km/h in 3,40 s -0-200 km/h in 10,39 s -0-300 km/h in 34,03 s Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG -Vmax.: 323,1 km/h -0-100 km/h in 3,99 s -0-200 km/h in 11,54 s -0-300 km/h in 35,74 s Porsche 911 GT2 RS -Vmax.: 330,0 km/h -0-100 km/h in 3,56 s -0-200 km/h in 10,37 s -0-300 km/h in 31,25 s 326 km/h - LP570-4 Superleggera Handling-track Nardo (2,8 km): 1. 1.11,5 min - GT2 RS (Pilot Cup) 2. 1.12,9 min - 458 Italia (Pilot Sport) 3. 1.13,9 min - SLS AMG 4. 1.17,9 min - B5 Biturbo 5. 1.18,8 min - Continental Supersports 6. Not tested - Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera (broken rear-diff.)

http://www.evo.co.uk/videos/trackdayvideos...test_video.html Sorry this link should work

EVO: 458 around bedford autodrome -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.evo.co.uk/videos/trackday...est_video.html

Not starting a pissing contest but that's the thing the 458 will not be here in 5 years it's replacement will be here by then. Lambo simply doesn't have anything at this time I'm interested in. Had a Gallardo, and Murci, now what? I love both brands and have owned both I'm just not going to buy 10 different Gallardo's and 5 different murci's of ever increasing msrp's and going to be happy or excited about it. Just my .02.

458 - EVO magazine Performance Test. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Octobers edition of EVO magazine UK there is a Performance and Track test of a 458. Here's some of the there recorded results; 0-30 1.6 0-60 3.2 0-100 6.8 0-130 11.0 0-160 17.5 1/4 mile - 11.2 at 128.8mph 100-0 4.0sec 342ft Total weight - 1546kg Front - 42% - 649kg Rear - 58% - 897kg Bedford Aerodrome West Circuit; 458 - 1.20.3 Murcielago LP670-4 SV - 1.21.3 430 Scud - 1.21.7 Gallardo LP560-4 - 1.22.5 Carrera GT - 1.23.3 GTR - 1.23.6

http://www.streetfire.net/video/top-gear-s...e-6_2044582.htm

Sorry Aticle is from Edmunds

2010 Ferrari 458 Italia vs. Aston Martin V12 Vantage vs. Lamborghini Gallardo vs. Porsche 911 Turbo ShareShare RSSRSS PrintPrint Media Player 2011 Ferrari 458 Italia Picture It's Italy vs. the rest of the world. | July 28, 2010 | Joel Peyru 29 Photos | See more photos in this gallery » Go to page 1Go to page 2Go to page 3Go to page 4Go to page 5Previous PageNext Page Feature 2010 Ferrari 458 Italia vs. Aston Martin V12 Vantage vs. Lamborghini Gallardo vs. Porsche 911 Turbo Ferrari Takes on the Best of Britain, Germany and Italy By Yves Bey-Rozet, Contributor | Published Jul 29, 2010 Poor So-So Pretty Good Good Excellent PoorSo-SoPretty GoodGoodExcellent14 Ratings 14 RatingsWho can get over the 2010 Ferrari 458 Italia? It makes all of us wild, and every one of us emerges from the car absolutely overcome, as if we'd just had a time-travel experience in a nuclear-powered Hot Wheels, some kind of amazing amalgam of sports car, child's toy and science gizmo. Can the Ferrari 458 really be that much better than every other sports car on the planet? Is this really just a Ferrari sports car, or is it something else — something more like the Ferrari Enzo, an extreme experience of speed and style? We've got some pretty reputable sports cars here just to help us come to grips with this question: the Aston Martin V12 Vantage, Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera and Porsche 911 Turbo. By rights, this is the competitive set for the Ferrari 458 Italia, a group of cars that represents the same kind of performance profile. And in measuring the Ferrari 458 Italia against these cars, will we discover that Ferrari has ratcheted up our expectations of what a street-legal sports car can achieve? Is this Ferrari a sports car or a supercar? Can we ask more questions? Aston Martin V12 Vantage The Aston Martin V12 Vantage puts out 510 horsepower in a relatively calm fashion. To save you the math, that's 86 hp per liter, a fairly prodigious amount. Shame they didn't simply make the hood transparent so you could count the cylinders one by one with a trembling voice and a shaking hand. After all, you only really notice the engine's voice when you back off the throttle and hear the salute from the exhausts. When you do deploy the power, the countryside smudges beyond the windows and you really don't need 3-D glasses to feel like you're plunging into the view screen. At the first corner you're well aware that the V12 engine is definitely in the front of this car, although the suspension has been firmed up by 45 percent compared to the V8 Vantage, including a lower ride height and massive antiroll bars. At 3,594 pounds, the V12 Vantage isn't that heavy, but it carries a lot more of it on the front tires than the V8 Vantage. The rear bar is particularly thick to unstick the rear tires and make the cornering balance livelier. "Isn't she beautiful; she's really feminine," says a woman of not inconsiderable taste. We can see Aston-shape stars forming before her eyes. Certainly the Vantage is one of those cars you look forward to washing by hand. If this comparison were a measure of elegance, the Aston Martin would have walked away with the prize long before the others even found the podium. In terms of pure performance, however, the Aston is well off the pace of the red devil from Italy. Beautifully balanced on the road, the V12 Vantage maintains a certain British reserve, even though it represents the largest engine in the smallest package among these cars. But then isn't an Aston Martin all about sipping your drink rather than knocking back a single shot? Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera The most dramatic of our foursome has to be the Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera. Our female Aston Martin enthusiast proclaims, "That's a car for Batman." Here you wonder that if you were to scribe the curves in the same way as you would with the Aston, you might actually cut yourself. You floor the throttle and all the visual stealth is transformed into a good old-fashioned missile. Much of the reason can be seen behind the rear window, a 5,204cc V10 that's capable of 552 hp. It revs to the sky and delivers dollops of power, something that can be achieved progressively in a high gear or violently in a lower one simply by dropping down two or three ratios with the shift paddles mounted on the steering column. It's at low and medium revs, however, that the new adoption of direct fuel injection is felt in the V10's stronger response. The Graziano-built single-clutch automated manual transmission has improved software to make it more tractable at restrained speeds, but it never can quite match the friendly behavior of the Ferrari's Getrag-built dual-clutch automated manual. We'll just have to wait for the redesign of the Gallardo before we can expect a dual-clutch in this car or the Audi R8, as there's not enough packaging space right now. One thing the Lamborghini has that the Ferrari does not is all-wheel drive, and the Superleggera's torque split of 30 percent front/70 percent rear ensures the car still has a lively, sporting feel. This is like having your mozzarella and eating it, too, as they say in Emilia Romagna. So although the Gallardo lacks the tiptoe deftness of the 458 Italia, it does deliver a much greater level of usability. After all, you might think twice about driving the Ferrari any great distance in a rainstorm. Porsche 911 Turbo The 2010 Porsche 911 Turbo has gone all Dopplekupplung on us. Although we say this in jest because Porsche was the first to experiment with a dual-clutch (dopplekuplung) transmission clear back in the 1980s with its Porsche 962 racing car. It's a reminder that the popularity of super sports cars these days has a lot to do with the newfound ability to drive them in everyday life that these automatic-style transmissions have brought us. Of course, the shape of the Porsche 911 has been with us for decades and it's become part of the landscape. On the one hand this is reassuring proof of the rightness of the original design, but on the other you could begin to wonder whether Porsche is lacking in the originality department. It's also a bit disappointing that the new Turbo is a lot more discreet than the original 1976 Turbo. The rear wing is a little on the apologetic side and the car generally feels like much less of an event. Some things don't change, however, such as when you floor the throttle and all the visual stealth is transformed into a good old-fashioned missile. The twin-turbo engine feels like a turbine, producing pure unending thrust right from the bottom of the tachometer. Add the PDK transmission (now available with optional shift paddles, which make the PDK seem like more of a manual transmission than the standard steering wheel buttons, which make it seem like an automatic), and you really wonder whether you're actually driving the world's fastest CVT-equipped car, since the slight squat in the back that you feel as you start to accelerate is maintained all the way up to 186 mph. The feeling of omnipotence is further reinforced by the 911 Turbo's all-wheel-drive system, which makes weather conditions essentially irrelevant. This is the ultimate GT car, something you can take to the limit on the track and then drive to the ski slopes on holiday. The Porsche 911 Turbo might be the best attempt yet to persuade us that a gazillion-dollar sports car is not a frivolous trinket but instead an essential tool for life. Ferrari 458 Italia So, which bee exactly has stung the Cavallino for it to rear up with such energy this time around? Normally, Ferrari condescends to allow its rival in Sant'#### to lead the way in the horsepower stakes, but this time the Ferrari 458 Italia is right in the thick of the horsepower race, only 10 hp shy of the Gallardo LP-570-4 Superleggera. The Italia's bodywork has movable aero whiskers at the front and there are lots of other small details like this that bear witness to the hours spent in the wind tunnel. Ferrari's midengine sports car really has morphed into something that is genuinely intriguing from a visual perspective, evidence of an inspired creative regeneration. It is a perfect blend of the functional and the beautiful, the aggressive and the elegant. The acceleration is pure electricity, and the dual-clutch transmission ensures that there is no letup in the power delivery, much like the Porsche 911 Turbo. The difference here is that you get to savor every last decibel. Meanwhile, the chassis seems to anticipate your every wish, and there's no delay between your command and the response from the car. You think about where you want to go and the car simply responds, as if it is hard wired to your synapses. Bearing this in mind, you've got to stay on your toes if you want to stay out of trouble. The Italia is more than happy to let you cruise along a sunny coast, elbow resting on the window sill, but it will also instantly go down the rabbit hole and into an altogether different world if you're not careful. Though initially the Ferrari strikes us as less hard-core than the LP570-4 Superleggera version of the Gallardo, the 458 Italia is still able to hold its own, and once the inevitable Scuderia version of the 458 appears, there will be no question of this Ferrari's ability to prevail against not only the Lamborghini but also the Porsche 911 GT2 and Porsche 911 GT3. The reason the Ferrari 458 Italia can do this is the sheer range of electronic adjustability built into every mechanical aspect of the car: engine performance, throttle action, shifting speed, differential action, damping calibration and stability control. Thanks to these features, a pure-bred performance car can be driven daily as if it were a GT. The Ferrari 458 Italia is the world's most comfortable racing car. Italy vs. the Rest of the World The Aston Martin V12 Vantage pounds away. The Ferrari 458 Italia and Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera use dynamite. The Porsche 911 Turbo is a hurricane. They all go about things in different ways, but one thing is for sure: They all smash pretty much everything else on the road to pieces. The Ferrari 458 Italia is less discreet than the Porsche 911 Turbo, less spectacular than the Lamborghini Gallardo and less distinguished than the Aston Martin. It is less aurally explosive than the LP570-4 Superleggera and less musical than the V12 Vantage. It is less weather-friendly than the 911 Turbo and Gallardo. And yet the Ferrari 458 Italia trumps them all because sports-car performance is so intense. The 458 Italia is the car you want to use to wear out a racetrack, and that's the deciding factor. This is a very exciting period in which to live, as the boundaries of automotive performance seem to be expanding every day. Portions of this content have appeared in foreign print media and are reproduced with permission.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What is it? A £164,107 Porsche 911, with 611bhp and 516lb ft. It is the fastest 911 ever to leave the factory. Its sole aim appears to be putting every Porsche tuner out of business – I mean how much more power do you really need? Technical highlights? The base engine is identical to the 997 GT2 (which is no longer built), but runs different turbochargers, new intercoolers, new pistons and a new engine management system to run 1.6 bar of boost, over the last cars 1.4bar. Claimed performance is of the ‘what-the-hell’ variety with 0-62mph in 3.5sec, 0-100mph in 6.8sec and a ‘Ring lap of 7min 18sec. The chassis is basically slightly up-rated GT3 RS, which is a pretty solid base. There are a few adjustments to fit this turbo application and for even better response the rear axle has more solid linkages than the GT3 RS. Aerodynamically, it’s quite similar to the 997 GT2, but runs a new splitter, new rear diffuser and an extra gurney on the rear wing. Doesn’t sound like much, but it nearly has as much downforce as the GT3 RS. All that carbon, plus plastic rear and side windows shave 70kg over the last GT2. What’s it like to drive? Comedy fast. I jumped out of a new 997 Turbo S into this thing and, at first, wondered what the fuss was all about. Being turbocharged, it doesn’t make much noise and it’s so easy to drive at low speed, rides so well, that you treat it like any normal 911. The fixed buckets are identical to the GT3 RS’s, the dash is plain 911, there’s far less induction noise than you get in the normally aspirated cars. It’s actually all a little disappointing until you open the taps in third and the car drags the horizon onto your forehead. There’s no PDK option, just a robust, short-throw manual. The clock would have you believe that a Turbo S is quicker to 62 and as fast to 100mph, but, as ever, the clock lies. This car is different-world fast to the Turbo S. And of course it’s a challenge for the driver. No other turbocharged 911 comes close to offering the chassis balance that this car does. It has monster front–axle grip and it doesn’t set to that initial understeer that used to plague the 996 GT2. You turn, it grips, the motor lunges, the front axle grips more, then the crazy traction takes-over on the exit of turns. The steering is stunning. Drive it fast, use its potential for a few minutes and you have to back-away before the numbers get silly. The traction and stability control calibration is a masterstroke: you can use so much of the performance, so much of the time. It’s freakishly comfortable too. Occasionally a low speed bump elicits a creak from those rear rose-joints, otherwise it rides no more harshly than a Carrera on sports suspension. In fact it might just be more supple. I saw 334kmh on the speedo, and it was still pulling like a mentalist. How does it compare? It’s faster, more useable and far cheaper than a 599 GTO. But then it doesn’t feel as special, isn’t lathered in as much carbon and is virtually mute compared to the musical Fandango. Neither the Lamborghini LP670 SV or LP570-4 SL are as quick or as capable. But again they both trounce the GT2 RS for sheer drama. Anything else I need to know? Those front wings are new for this car. Instead of the GT3 RS’s ugly extensions, they’re one-piece items, albeit an optional one. It’s very expensive and doesn’t sound as good as the GT3 RS, and they should be making 300, not 500. But this is a remarkable car. Veyron aside, it’s the fastest road car I’ve driven – but it’s completely useable and it still involves you in the process. Want. http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc...rs_review.html

omg I'm terribly sorry. Had no idea you've had such tragedy in your life.

In this month comparison of Superleggera and 458 in the French "Motor Sport" magazine, controlled weight is: - 458: 1553kg (or 1557kg, two different info in same article!) - LP570-4 superleggera: 1525 (or 1553kg, 2 different info in same article!) O-100km/: 3.7sec for both 1000m: 20"8 for both Qualitative assessment: they put Ferrari as Number 1 on their 3 category: Motor/gearbox, road behavior, performance.

Unreal!!!!!!!!!!

Apparent specs: The new GT2 RS is reportedly packing 620 hp and will come in nearly 200 pounds lighter than the current GT2. The 0-62 mph time is pegged at 3.2 seconds with a rumored 'Ring time of... wait for it... 7:22 – the same as the Dodge Viper ACR.

Porsche 911 GT2 RS: Coming in September 2010, first picture and more intel here first! May 4, 2010 Breaking news about Porsche here today: Porsche has shown the rumored and spy shot Porsche 911 GT2 RS (yes, you are reading that right!) to all dealers in Germany yesterday and we have the first picture and more intel here first! Official press info is scheduled for 14th May. Stay tuned! the new porsche 997 GT2 RS is coming this year in september. 240.000 euro ! faster than carrera gt !!! Thanks to Manu for the tip! Tags: breaking news, Featured, Porsche 911 GT2 RS Share|

458 Italia test in Quattroruote-incredible results -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 458 Italia test results : Acceleration : 0-100 3.27s 0-160 6.5s 0-200 9.69s 0-250 16.0s 1/4 mile 11.0s @ 212.8 Kph 1 Km 19.8s @ 269.8 Kph Top Speed 458: 327.8 Kph Vairano track : 2. 1.15:146 - 122.64 Kph - Ferrari 458 Italia (Single test, Michelin Pilot Sport) 3. 1.15:159 - 122.62 Kph - Ferrari 430 Scuderia (Single Test) 4. 1.15:375 - 122.27 Kph - Ferrari 430 Scuderia (Supertest 2008, Alain Prost) 5. 1.15:528 - 122.07 Kph - Porsche 997 GT2 (Supertest 2008, Alain Prost) 6. 1.15:714 - 121.72 Kph - Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 (Supertest 2008, Alain Prost) 7. 1.16:170 - 120.99 Kph - Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera (Pirelli PZero Corsa, ALAIN PROST) 8. 1.16:810 - 119.98 Kph - Ferrari 599 GTB (Composite Brakes, 20" Rims, Pirelli Pzero MY06) 9. 1.17:065 - 119.59 Kph - Mercedes SLS AMG (Single Test, Continental ContiSportContact

sounds good to me

M5

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Not yet but i can't see them being very far apart if at all. Maybe I'll have to do a side by side.

my g can't easily beat my 430...

I hate to say it over here, but I will even with fear of being bashed. I have to say the 599 is growing on me, especially with the rumored 7 speed f1, it should fly.

From over on F?!@& Final Outcome: 435WHP / 304.5TQ. That means Ferrari actually understated this one, guess that's why they're so fast. Pretty impressive for only 4.3 liters.

Just saying it the way it is, I am always very objective and give praise where it's due. Sorry...