MrEd

Excellent. Thank you. Your orange car was exported to Japan in 2012. That one has had an interesting life. Highest recorded mileage was around 46k in 06 and it received a rebuilt title for some reason. More recent reports show lower mileage. Up to 96!

30%-40% is usually a fair estimate. The factory doesn't release that type of data unfortunately. It will be interesting to see how many more turn up but I would expect that there are 20-30 more.

I built this list out on VINwiki but I thought I would share it here. At the time of this first post I have 94 VINs. There are some rather large gaps so I am sure that I am missing quite a few but this is a start. Production estimates vary but it looks like something around 380 is accurate worldwide. This is US only. Let me know if you see any I am missing. ZA9DU01B91LA12502 Black ZA9DU01B21LA12505 Yellow ZA9DU01B81LA12508 Orange ZA9DU01B31LA12514 Orange ZA9DU01B91LA12517 Blue ZA9DU01B21LA12522 Red ZA9DU01B31LA12528 Pearl Yellow ZA9DU01B51LA12532 Orange ZA9DU01BX1LA12543 Titanium ZA9DU01B11LA12544 Black ZA9DU01B81LA12556 Orange ZA9DU01B31LA12576 Vik ZA9DU01B91LA12582 Black ZA9DU01B11LA12589 Yellow ZA9DU01BX1LA12591 Black ZA9DU01B31LA12593 Purple ZA9DU01B01LA12597 Titanium ZA9DU01B21LA12603 Vik ZA9DU01B01LA12616 Blue ZA9DU01B11LA12625 Titanium ZA9DU01B31LA12626 Red ZA9DU01B71LA12628 Titanium ZA9DU01B41LA12635 Titanium ZA9DU01B11LA12642 Titanium ZA9DU01B51LA12644 Painted Ithaca ZA9DU01B71LA12645 Orange ZA9DU01B91LA12646 Yellow ZA9DU01B21LA12651 Black ZA9DU01B61LA12653 Yellow ZA9DU01B81LA12654 Titanium ZA9DU01B31LA12657 Painted Ithaca ZA9DU01B71LA12659 Yellow ZA9DU01B91LA12663 Blue ZA9DU01B21LA12665 Orange ZA9DU01B41LA12666 Titanium ZA9DU01B61LA12667 Titanium ZA9DU01B51LA12675 Yellow ZA9DU01B91LA12677 Orange ZA9DU01B21LA12679 Yellow ZA9DU01B01LA12681 Titanium ZA9DU01B21LA12682 Black ZA9DU01B11LA12697 Yellow ZA9DU01B31LA12698 Titanium ZA9DU01B51LA12699 Yellow ZA9DU01B71LA12705 Black ZA9DU01B91LA12706 Orange ZA9DU01B01LA12714 Green ZA9DU01B21LA12715 Black ZA9DU01B61LA12720 Red ZA9DU01BX1LA12722 Titanium ZA9DU01B61LA12734 Black ZA9DU01B81LA12735 Titanium ZA9DU01B11LA12737 Purple ZA9DU01B21LA12742 Yellow ZA9DU01B41LA12743 Yellow ZA9DU01B61LA12744 Blue ZA9DU01B81LA12749 Titanium ZA9DU01B41LA12750 Orange ZA9DU01B61LA12751 Orange ZA9DU01B41LA12764 Orange ZA9DU01B31LA12755 Yellow ZA9DU01B51LA12756 Yellow ZA9DU01B71LA12757 Orange ZA9DU01B21LA12763 Red ZA9DU01B61LA12779 Black ZA9DU01B71LA12788 Yellow ZA9DU01B51LA12790 Black ZA9DU01B41LA12795 Unknown ZA9DU01B61LA12796 Blue ZA9DU01B61LA12801 Black ZA9DU01B81LA12802 Titanium ZA9DU01B41LA12814 Andromeda ZA9DU01B61LA12815 Andromeda ZA9DU01B91LA12825 Gold ZA9DU01B01LA12826 Brown ZA9DU01B21LA12827 Brown ZA9DU01BX1LA12834 Yellow ZA9DU01B51LA12837 Gold ZA9DU01B91LA12839 Brown ZA9DU01B21LA12844 Red ZA9DU01B41LA12845 Purple ZA9DU01B61LA12846 Yellow ZA9DU01B11LA12852 Yellow ZA9DU01B31LA12853 Yellow ZA9DU01B51LA12854 Blue ZA9DU01B01LA12860 Yellow ZA9DU01B21LA12861 Balloon White ZA9DU01B81LA12864 Black ZA9DU01B01LA12874 Blue ZA9DU01BX1LA12882 Red ZA9DU01B51LA12885 Gold ZA9DU01B91LA12887 Brown ZA9DU01B21LA12889 Brown ZA9DU01B91LA12890 White

Yes. A low mile 12 is still a >$300k car. MSRP was $407-425k then so that is a 75% residual after 60 months. That is better than any lease would be set up and other than a few market anomalies, it is just about as good as it gets. $1,500 per month in depreciation for the coolest car you could by that year is tough to argue with.

Nothing from her lately. I believe she is currently incarcerated.

Sure thing. Here is the story. It is long because I copied it out of the manuscript for my book about the NY to LA record. Sorry I don't have time to condense right now but here it is: Early in 2011 I met one of the most interesting people whom I have ever known. A flatbed tow truck arrived at the dealership with a non-running Blue Caelum 2004 Gallardo. Every wheel was curbed, the tires were bald, the clutch was fried, and it was pouring oil from everywhere it could find. The door handles were broken off and the interior smelled particularly exotic. The two guys dropping it off didn’t speak much English. Best we could understand it, we were being asked to put together an estimate of what it would take to get the car back up and running. With quite the laundry list, the rehabilitation came to right at $20,000. We called the number they left and did not get an answer. We had the car all apart and did not have anyone to pay for it. A man showed up a couple of days later and told us it belonged to his girlfriend’s daughter and that she was very attractive. It was a strange unsolicited comment but he did not present himself as being the most socially conforming type of person. At the moment he said she was in jail but she would be out soon and probably wanted to sell the car. My ears perked up. The car was too rough to even wholesale. It needed a lot more work than we anticipated she would be able to afford so we parked it out back and waited. A few days later I met Porsche (not her real name but a good prostitute name). Porsche is a prostitute. Political correctness might ask that I say Porsche is an alleged prostitute but that wouldn’t be fair to the criminal justice system that had already convicted her of the charges three times in various metro Atlanta jurisdictions. While her mother’s boyfriend had insinuated that she was in jail for speeding it was, in fact, a professional appearance. Porsche had paid $100,000 in cash for the car in Miami about nine months prior to her most recent incarceration. While she was away some of her friends went joyriding fairly destructively in the Gallardo and thus our paths began to cross. We were correct that Porsche was not in a position to write us a check for the service so she asked if we would buy the car. There are not many hand raisers for a supercar with a knowable bill to get it running but an unknowable subsequent list of additional needs not to be discovered until the first $20k was spent. I offered her $30,000. She wanted $60,000 as it sat. We settled on $30,000. I paid the service bill and stuck my detailers on it for a week. It had its electrical and mechanical quirks but it was a great car. It also said Lamborghini on it and had cost me less than a new Hyundai. Porsche was half black and half vietnamese as best I could gather. She had blue and blonde hair and usually wore very tight nylon animal print short dresses. She had a lot of tattoos and they were conveniently displayed, even the ones in more private areas. She wore some weird zombie-like light blue contacts with catseye pupils. Porsche’s most compelling and presumably marketable feature was her backside. She had a reasonably proportioned, albeit augmented, torso but then she had 50” hips. I mean that she could take breaks while hula hooping. It was the kind of thing that you could never stop looking at, with or without it being arousing to you. She was taller sitting in a chair. The demographic market for her specialty was a far cry from myself but I found her to be a phenomenally interesting person. She wanted a pink Bentley like the one Paris Hilton had on the TV. You can’t buy a Bentley and paint it pink for the $30,000 that I owed her for the Gallardo so we decided to see if we could get her financed for the balance. That meant that Porsche and I got to talk about her credit. I asked her if she had ever gotten a loan for anything and she said “no.” That would normally be a death blow to a big car loan but if she was financing half of a $60-70k Bentley we thought we had a shot. Beyond that, the conversation was too much fun to stop. She pulled out her social security card which she apparently carried all of the time and she gave me her driver’s license to copy. The address that was on it matched the title for the Gallardo that she had but it was a strange location for a residence. It was off a big road in the center of town so I Googled it. It was an establishment called the Gold Spa. She unashamedly confirmed that was correct. I asked Porsche who to list as her employer and she gave me a name of a pornography production company. She seemed to have her hand in a variety of businesses. I asked her how much she made and she said that it was between $10-50k per month, “So why don’t we just say $500,000?” That was on the unbelievable side of the scale for a bank. “How about this, what did you put on your most recent tax return?” She shook her head. “Does that mean it was not very much or you just haven’t gotten around to filing.” “That.” She said. We estimated. When we pulled her credit it was strange. There were no records at all. She had never used her social security number for anything. Not a cell phone, library card, credit card, not even a bank account. That became clear in the next step. We had no banks that would step up to be the first credit offering to Porsche. Without a Bentley to apply it to, I told her we would give her a check for the Lambo. We printed it out, signed it, and handed it to her. “What do I do with this?” She asked. “You can deposit it or cash it. Do you have a bank account?” Head shakes. “Then just take it to our bank and they will give you cash.” The dots were not connecting. “Really? Can you guys just give me cash?” “No, we don’t keep that much cash around. It is super easy, they are right down the road.” I said. “Have you ever used a check?” She had not ever seen one. Porsche went on her way and I owned a prostitute’s Gallardo. I had a bear of a time getting the second key from her though. I called, texted, emailed, and tried everything to get in touch with her to get it. I wanted the second key and wasn’t wild about someone in her profession maintaining access to the car - not judging. One day she sends me a text message. “It’s my birthday tomorrow. Do you still want that key?” she asked. Interesting combination of ideas. “Yes. Please. Can you bring it up here?” I asked. “Can I get $100 for it?” I shouldn’t have been surprised given her normal income earning strategies. “Sure. Get it here by 5 PM and I will give you $100.” No response. No show by 5. The next day just as we were about to close, Porsche walks in. The best way to describe the dress that she was wearing is that it was a basketball net. More holes than fabric. It left even less up to the imagination than her normal wardrobe. There was a woman with a small child at our service counter. She saw Porsche’s dress, grabbed the child, and literally ran screaming out of the building. “What are you all dressed up for Porsche?” I asked. She came over and hugged me. Porsche was a hugger. “Itsma birfday!” “Well you are halfway to that outfit, aren’t you?” I commented. I am not sure she got it. She handed me the key. I paid her the $100. Given her attire I felt like the obvious question was sufficiently appropriate. My curiosity persisted on a zoological level. Utterly fascinating. No pun intended although our local Atlanta, low budget implant installers need to brush up. “Porsche, do you have butt implants?” I was at the edge of my seat. She was proud to answer, “No. I got a fat redistribution. You see, they made me gain 30 pounds, and then they suck it out, and they injected it right here.” She pointed to the injection site. They clearly used a turkey baster. “Does it feel strange?” “No. Feels normal.” She seemed quite pleased with it. I was proud to have lived long enough to encounter the recipient of such a pioneering medical procedure. I haven’t seen Porsche since then but she does occasionally like and comment on some social media posts of mine. Now that is interesting. I was very pleased to once again be an exotic car owner and I drove the wheels off of it. As I said, the house that we had purchased only had a two car garage. That meant that there was no place to put the Mercedes. I ended up enjoying the blue Gallardo as the first exotic that I had owned that finally had no strings attached. One consequence of the rental business was a hyper-consciousness about the cost of driving them. It was $5.71 per mile on average to drive a Ferrari 360 or Gallardo including the cost of consumable items, servicing, depreciation, insurance, cost of money, etc. With the financial risk removed from ownership of the ex-Porsche car, It quickly graduated into daily driver duty. The carefree feeling of a car that looks cool, is fun to drive, and was fresh out of a monster service was excellent.

Another one. I know there is some sentiment that the manual cars are over-hyped but I continue to beg to differ. The Murcielago in any form is the best supercar bargain out there but the sequential cars generally require you to make an excuse for the gearbox. At speed it is perfectly fine but at low speed it is cumbersome. After 30k miles in the E-Gear Murcis I certainly still love them and would own one over anything else at the same money but the stick makes the car 100% more usable and eliminates the fragility of the E-Gear. My only complaint with the green car was that it was too perfect. I have never been a guy to want the nicest of something. My first exotics were in my rental fleet. Then I bought a blue Gallardo from a local prostitute, then a 24k mile LP640 Roadster, then a gorgeous Rosso Vik 640 coupe that I drove 10k miles in a year, and then the Green stick 640. Regardless of how much I planned to keep it forever, I had trouble with the feeling that I was depreciating the nicest example of the car by driving it so I only put 3k miles or so on it in the last 13 months. Then I found a new car. It is also a stick LP640, an 07 Grigio Telesto car originally from Canada. It was actually stolen in Canada and then recovered around 2010. The US title is clean and it has been here for years. I picked it up a few days ago in Vegas and drove it 2,000 miles home to Atlanta. It has a couple cosmetic needs - some curbed wheels, scratches, and leather issues but I will get it fixed right up. It is the perfect driver example of the perfect car. As you have probably noticed, Roy bought my green car and was extremely helpful in putting the deal together. It will be a perfect car for someone. I have been funding my new startup VINwiki so this downsize allows for tons of guilt free stick 640 miles ahead! Here are a few pics. More on my site here.

It was orange. It has been purchased by someone with the intent to fix it but it will be a tough one to put back together.

Correct. They undersold the market by at least $150k but by the time they realized it, they had already sent paperwork to the buyer. Bad day in the office!

He was talking about this car (ZHWBC37M08LA02698). It sold a few weeks ago. They sold it way too cheap and got a dozen cash offers in less than a day. Beautiful car.

Thanks so much. Amazing car to own.

Congrats!

The car is factory Bianco Canopus and had a very early matte clear bra already on it when I sold him the car 5 or so years ago. Cosmetically the car was in excellent condition. Those matte clear bras have come a long way since then. I just got my matte black Ruf fully wrapped in Xpel Stealth and it looks great. Enjoyed the brainstorming session today Sprite. Definitely a lot to explore.

Yes, I just spoke to them as well. Amazing. They had no idea how rare it was so they priced it equal to an 08 E-Gear car they had. They told me that the successful buyer has turned down a massive profit already. Good for them for not going back on their deal after having agreed on it. Bad day at the office when you leave $150k on the table though. At 6754 KM I think this is the lowest mile 640 Coupe in North America.

No problem at all. I love the discussion of the 6 speed cars. If you are happy with the number, I say go for it. In all likelihood, you won't find another one. Glad to hear it was only a respray. No harm in that. I say do it!

When I spoke to the previous Craigslist seller he claimed there was some damage repair/paintwork to the front. He wasn't terribly specific because he really didn't know. Murcis can have some edgy paint but they don't hide paint work well so I assume he knew what he was looking at. Any competent dealer can look over the car (especially in black) and give you a very good idea of what was done.

Keep them coming. We will never get tired of pics of that beautiful car. Enjoy it in good health.

That is tough because they rarely change hands. Most asking prices are 750-900 and tend to be quite negotiable. There are only 12 cars that were originally US legal, a couple of which have been converted to sequentials. There are a couple low priced desperation sales that have happened but I think for an 08 CCX something in the high 6's to low 7s is doable.

It is always difficult to say exactly because some change hands rather privately. It seems to be $80-175k depending on how nice the car is. I get a lot of offers on mine, all are in the 3s. The highest two have been $375k. I have gotten close to saying yes but every time I get very close, I think about what I would replace it with and just can't. A few months ago I nearly sold it and the Ruf to buy a Koenigsegg. I consider doing something like that but at the same money, I can't imagine what I would replace it with. I was talking with LA_Brit about that earlier. The car just does everything I want a supercar to do. It is cool to see so many of them represented here on LP. Mondi mentioned in the thread about his totaled orange car that he had been offered $350k, which I believe, but his insurance paid out $306k. Still a strong number. Nick Cages low option Balloon White car brought $329k in 2014 with teen miles. Another relatively low option Balloon White 07 brought ~$290k last year. I sold one of the Roadsters last year at a strong number (I will leave it up to the owner to disclose as it was not public) but shortly after I had an interested buyer offer $400k, which represented a small profit. He turned that down and still owns the car. The gold 07 coupe brought $270k but it was common knowledge it had sold a few months earlier for $230k before we figured out how many they had brought over. The only stick 640 for sale right now has 39k miles, aftermarket wheels, tinted tail lights, and accident history for $225k. Another low mileage car was totaled quietly last year and the insurance payout was in the mid-3s. There are definitely some inflated values in certain parts of the collector car space but these have be legitimized by a good number of transactions. With fewer and fewer good cars each year, it seems like the trend might continue but the cooler reality is that of the 14 owners I know that have them, no one is speculating. They just all love the cars.

A few more pics from around Atlanta by Winning Automotive Photography. I love how these came out. The car has been amazing. Just had an annual service done at Lambo Atlanta and passed 8k miles. Definitely the best car I have ever owned. I hated to see the orange one die. At this point of the 26 US stick 640s - 4 have been totaled, 1 lemon lawed, 2 were press cars, 2 exported, 3 in non-totaling accidents, etc. Glad to see a lot of the damaged cars being put back together and used well. Stay safe out there.

I love it.

I have seen that happen a few times. Voltage gets low and they can't shift to Neutral without some encouragement. Glad you got it worked out. If I am parking in a garage/showroom/flat area, I leave them in Neutral. When I park on any grade (generally for less than a couple hours) I leave them in first or reverse. Nothing wrong with either.

I have a cracked one. Not sure if you could tint it and make the crack less visible. Shipper broke it bringing me my car.

That is fantastic. Very impressive.

There are many times when the alternator is not up to running the car and charging the battery. If the battery gets really low (like bone dead for days), I highly recommend charging it up well before starting. It will take days to charge at 2-4 amps to bring them back to life. I have a charger like this that will do 2/12/30/80 amps. https://www.jbtoolsales.com/schumacher-elec...1mngaAoL_8P8HAQ I charge the batteries at 12 or 30 amps for 30-60 minutes and that brings them back to life and I have never had an alternator issue.