Curious about the Veyron's Nurburgring time?

Sure it's got a thousand horsepower and AWD, but it's also 4,300lbs...how does that odd mix translate in terms of a Nurburgring time?

 

Well according to "Wheels Magazine" of Australia, lol, it translates to a time of "7:40". Which if a legit time, is identical to SportAuto's time for the SLR, and slightly faster than cars like the 996GT2, the Zonda C12 S, the ZeeOhShit, and the Murcielago.

 

Not by much though as each of those cars is within a few seconds of the mighty Veyron's time, and a few cars like the CGT turn in times roughly ten seconds faster.

 

We'll see what SportAuto can do with it with Horst behind the wheel. But right now, the time is 7:40.

:| i would think it would go much faster. How much does the SLR weigh? CGT is 10 seconds faster? I know the Veyron is more of a 'GT' car, but 1000hp is a good amount for a high speed track like the ring.

SLR is much lighter. For the Veryron's tonnage it's a good time.

Yup. That pig is going to be pretty unhappy in the corners. Bet its damn near running on the limiter the entire back straight, though.

Is this a joke? I thought with all that power and great brakes it would be doing a 7:15!!! amazing...Guess the CGT is still the boss ultimately. Incidentally, its a really interesting track, and many cars youd think would do very well really dont, namely the F430 and the ford GT based on power etc. Porsches backyard:)

I think the Veyron in the hands of a solid driver should do better than 7.30 at the ring.There are lots of fast straightaways where the car will absolutely fly

I think the Veyron in the hands of a solid driver should do better than 7.30 at the ring.There are lots of fast straightaways where the car will absolutely fly

 

 

Get Von Surma or Stuck behind the wheel and it would drop ten seconds easy. Can't compare a first attempt to the CGT, which has done over a thousand laps on the course murclovr.

isn't the CGT extremely hard to drive on the limit? It would take a very good driver to piece together a good lap at the ring on the edge. What does an Enzo do it in?

those guys who have driven the N-ring 3000 times are probably very good drivers and can handle the cgt easily.

 

7:28 --- 166.652 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walther Roehrl,(Autobild 07/04) (Source: Supercars.net-community)

I think the Veyron in the hands of a solid driver should do better than 7.30 at the ring.There are lots of fast straightaways where the car will absolutely fly

 

<-stupid

 

Get Von Surma or Stuck behind the wheel and it would drop ten seconds easy. Can't compare a first attempt to the CGT, which has done over a thousand laps on the course murclovr.

 

 

definitely cant compare, I thought this was a multiple run attempt and the best they could do, for sure sarma or someone that spends their time there can do better than 7:40, a GT2 can nearly do that...

Nordschleife excluding GP track, 20.6 kms:

 

 

 

 

6:55* -- 178.699 km/h -- Radical SR8, 360 PS/650 kg, Michael Vergers, sep,28 05, http://www.radicalextremesportscars...d0905/index.php

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/video_...p_recor d.html (* street-legal only in the UK)

7:12* -- 173.600 km/h -- Radical SR3 Turbo, 320 PS/500 kg (test drive 07/03) (*mfr.)

7:12.25 173.500 km/h -- Schnitzer BMW M3 GTR, Dirk Mueller, 24hrs race practice (02)

7:14.89 172.181 km/h – Donkervoort D8 270 RS, , 350 PS/600 kg, Michael Düchting, nov,6 05, http://autoweek.nl/newsdisp.php?cache=no&ID=4199

7:15.63 169.311 km/h -- Edo Porsche 996 GT2 RS, 542 PS/1284 kg, Patrick Simons (sport auto 09/05), http://www.edo-competition.net/movi...leife_gt2rs.wmv

7:18.01 170.236 km/h -- Donkervoort D8 RS, 370 PS/670 kg, Michael Duechting, sport auto 12/2004, >>> http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?...fID=2&tID=13957

7:19* -- 168.929 km/h -- Radical SR3 1500 Turbo, Phil Bennet (jun,15 03) (*mfr.), http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/ne...liefe/index.php ,

www.radicalsportscars.com/gallery/ring2b.mpg

7:21 --- 168.163 km/h -- Blitz Supra, 650 PS (Autocar magazine 97)

7:28 --- 166.652 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walther Roehrl,(Autobild 07/04)

7:32* -- 164.071 km/h – Pagani Zonda F, 650 PS/ 1230 kg, (*mfr.) www.autodrome-cannes.com/index-eng.asp

7:32.44 163.911 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, definitive time Horst von Saurma (sport auto 01/04)7:32.52 163.882 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (sport auto 01) , www.gemballa.com/news/gtr6002.html

7:34 --- 163.586 km/h – Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto), oct,17-18 05, http://www.koenigsegg.com/news/arti...page=&type=news

7:36 --- 162.631 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, factory test driver Walther Roehrl (02)

7:39 --- 161.575 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg, http://www.koenigsegg.com/news/arti...page=&type=news

http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vi...fID=0&tID=44953

7:40 --- 161.217 km/h – Bugatti 16/4 Veyron, 1001 PS/1980 kg (Wheels magazine Australia, 12/05)

7:40* -- 161.217 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1495 kg, *cold and partially wet track (sport auto 12/03)

7:40 --- 161.217 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 07/04)

7:41 --- 160.868 km/h -- Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413hp (AutoBild 07/04) , http://www.manthey-motors.de/nextsh...spdf.asp?id=217

7:42* -- 160.519 km/h – Ford GT, 550 PS/ 1521 kg (*as indicated by Octane magazine, 11/05)

7:42 --- 160.519 km/h -- Mosler MT900S Photon, Joao Barbosa, (04) (according to dailysportscar.net)

7:42 --- 160.519 km/h -- Radical 1500 SR3, 230 PS/510 kg (02)

7:42.9 - 160.207 km/h -- POS Plastic mess-06, 500 PS/1319 kg, Jan Magnusen, (Sporbilen, jun,26 05), http://www.supercars.net/Pics?vpf2=...mID=1384471&l=d

7:43 --- 160.173 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Roehrl (MOTOR magazine)

7:43 --- 160.173 km/h -- TechArt Porsche GT Street, 620 PS/1453 kg, (sport auto 08/02)

7:43.5 - 160,000 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)

7:44 --- 159.828 km/h -- Pagani Zonda C12 S, 555 PS/1388 kg (sport auto 07/02)

7:45 --- 159.484 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600, 600hp (00)

7:45* -- 159.484 km/h -- McLaren F1, *estimated lap time from a video available at www.pistonheads.tv

7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/01)

7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- Jaguar XJ220, John Walton (EVO magzine 07/00), www.jwhubbers.nl/ring/docs/evo-0007-7.jpg

7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- SHK Porsche 993 GT2, 652hp (sport auto 99)

7:47 --- 158.801 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, 381hp (sport auto 03/04)

7.49 --- 158.124 km/h -- Porsche GT3, 392hp (AutoBild 2004), http://www.autobild.de/tuning/testb...artikel_seite=4

7:49 --- 158.124 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 Cup, 360 PS/1207 kg (sport auto 02/99)

7:49.72 157.885 km/h -- Honda RC30, Helmut Daehne (93) (moto bike)

7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- BMW E46 M3 CSL (sport auto 08/03)

7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Blitz Supra, 750hp, Herbert Schuerg (97)

7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/02)

7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Westfield Super 7 with Hayabusa engine, >>> http://nurburgring.free.fr/Vids/Bre...vx504_1_350.avi

7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg, http://videos.streetfire.net/Player...91F288808EB&p=0

7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche 911 Le Mans (sport auto 95)

7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo E-Gear (sport auto 12/03)

7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/04)

7:54 --- 156.456 km/h -- Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582bPS/1678kg, (sport auto 03/05), >>> http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?...fID=2&tID=27415

7:54 --- 156.456 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 (sport auto 06/03)

7:55 --- 156.126 km/h -- Caterham R500 Superlight, Robert Nearn (EVO magazine 07/00)

7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 PS/1387 kg (sport auto 02/04)

7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 06/00)

7:56* -- 155.798 km/h -- Chevrolet POS Plastic mess-06 ,company chief engineer Dave Hill (*mfr.)

7:56.73 155.569 km/h -- Honda NSX-R (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion", lap not completed)

7:57 --- 155.472 km/h -- Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo, 600PS/1558 kg (sport auto 05/98)

7:58 --- 156.652 km/h -- Audi RS4 4.2 V8 FSI, 420 PS/ 1650 kg, Frank Stippler, oct 05, http://www.8200rpm.com/forum/read.p...=16841&t=16841

7:59 --- 154.822 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Performance”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)

7:59* -- 154.822 km/h -- Chevrolet C6 Z51, company test driver Dave Hill (*mfr.)

7:59 --- 154.822 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, Dirk Schoymans (Autocar magazine 97)

7:59.41 154.690 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi spec.C "prototype" (2004), www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf

8:01.72 153.984 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")

8:02 --- 153.858 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Sport”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 04)

8:03 --- 153.540 km/h – Aston Martin V8 Vantage, 385 PS/1636 kg, Pirelli P Zero Corsa (sport auto 10/05)

8:03 --- 153.540 km/h -- Porsche 911 GT3, 360 PS/1391 kg (sport auto 08/99)

8:04 --- 153.223 km/h -- Lamborghini Diablo GT, 575 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 07/00)

8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Ferrari 575M Maranello F1, 580 PS/1820 kg (sport auto 12/02)

8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM settino “Standard”, Walter Roehrl (WHEELS 06/04)

8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, 355PS/1461kg (sport auto 05/05), http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?...fID=2&tID=36440

8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Ruf CTR, http://www.lad.lv/~martini/porsche/...urburgring1.wmv

8:06 --- 152.592 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/02)

8:06.01 152.589 km/h -- Subaru WRX Sti C-spec (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")

8:07 --- 152.279 km/h -- Ferrari 550 Maranello, 485 PS/1724 kg (sport auto 06/98)

8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- BMW M6, 507 PS/1761 kg (sport auto 12/05), http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vi...fID=2&tID=63338

8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg (sport auto 08/02)

8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Modena , 400 PS/1464 kg (sport auto 10/99)

8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Lamborghini Diablo SV, 520 PS/1590 kg (sport auto 12/97)

8:10 --- 151.114 km/h -- Aston Martin V8 Vantage (Top Gear 02/05)

8:10 --- 151.114 km/h -- Chrysler Viper GTS, 411 PS/1567 kg (sport auto 10/97)

8:10 --- 151.347 km/h -- Donkervoort D8 180R, 210 PS/650 kg (sport auto 03/01)

8:10.75 151.265 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi Version III sedan (1996), www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf

8:11 --- 151,274 km/h -- Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (Best Motoring video 14)

8:11* -- 151,274 km/h -- Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1340 kg, test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) (sport auto 07/05)

8:12 --- 150.732 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG, 476 PS/1651 kg (sport auto 04/02)

8:12 --- 150.732 km/h -- Porsche 993 Turbo (sport auto 03/97)

8:12 --- 150.732 km/h -- Porsche 993 Turbo works tuning (sport auto 06/97)

8:33 --- 150.426 km/h – Aston Martin V8 Vantage, 385 PS/1636 kg, Bridgestone Potenza RE 50 (sport auto 10/05)

8:13 --- 150.426 km/h -- BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg (sport auto 12/04), http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?...fID=2&tID=13956

8:13 --- 150.426 km/h -- Lotus Esprit Sport 350, 354 PS/1324 kg (sport auto 05/99)

8:13 --- 150.426 km/h -- Dodge Viper SRT-10, 506 hp (sport auto, 10/04)

8:14 --- 150.120 km/h -- Mercedes SL 65 AMG, 612 PS/2049 kg (sport auto 01/05), http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?...fID=2&tID=23337

8:14.98 149.824 km/h -- Mitsubishi Carisma Evo VIII GSR MR 8 (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")

8:15 --- 149.818 km/h -- Alpina Roadster S, 300 PS/1416 kg (sport auto 6/05), http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vi...fID=2&tID=44295

8:15 --- 149.818 km/h -- POS C6, 404 PS/1491 kg (sport auto 08/05), http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vi...fID=0&tID=46738

8:15* -- 149.818 km/h -- Holden GTS (00), *estimated

8:15 --- 149.818 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera 2, Walter Roehrl (WHEELS 06/04)

8:15 --- 149.818 km/h -- Ruf 911 CTR 2, 520 hp

8:16 --- 149.516 km/h -- AC-Schnitzer M3 CLS II E36, 350 PS (sport auto 11/97)

8:16 --- 149.516 km/h -- AC-Schnitzer V8 Topster, 450 PS/1557kg (sport auto 01/05) http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?...fID=2&tID=18724

8:16 --- 149.516 km/h -- Aston Martin DB9, 457hp (sport auto 11/04) http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?...fID=2&tID=10114

8:16.15 149.471 km/h -- Honda NSX (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")

8:17 --- 149.215 km/h -- Aston Martin V12 Vanquish, 515 PS/1775 kg (sport auto 01/03)

8:17 --- 149.215 km/h -- Porsche 911 Carrera, 320 PS/1399 kg (sport auto 06/01)

8:18 --- 149.916 km/h -- BMW Z8, 400PS/1651 kg (sport auto 08/00)

8:18 --- 149.916 km/h -- Chevrolet POS Z05 Commemorative Edition, 344 PS (sport auto 09/2003)

8:18 --- 149.916 km/h -- Ferrari F355, 380 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 06/97)

8:18 --- 149.916 km/h -- Maserati GranSport, 400 PS/1672 kg (sport auto 09/05), http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vi...fID=2&tID=50624

8:20 --- 148.320 km/h -- Audi RS6, 400 PS/ 1815 kg (sport auto 03/01)

8:20 --- 148.320 km/h -- BMW M3 E36, 321 hp (Autocar magazine 1997)

8:20 --- 148.320 km/h -- Porche 993 GT3, Walter Roehrl (Car magazine 10/99)

8:22 --- 147.749 km/h -- BMW M3 E46, 343 PS/1584 kg (sport auto 12/00)

8:22 --- 147.749 km/h -- BMW M Coupe, 321 PS/1445 kg (sport auto 10/98)

8:22 --- 147.749 km/h -- Mercedes-Benz C55 (sport auto07/2004)

8:22.38 147.617 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R32 GTR (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")

8:23 --- 147.435 km/h -- Aston Martin DB7 GT, 442 PS/1833 kg (sport auto 07/03)

8:23 --- 147.435 km/h -- Porsche 996 Carrera 4, 300 PS/1466 kg (sport auto 01/02)

8:24 --- 147.143 km/h -- Mercedes SLK 55 AMG, 360PS/1566kg (sport auto 04/05), http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?...fID=2&tID=31462

8:24 --- 147.143 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi (sport auto 05/04)

8:25 --- 146.851 km/h -- Audi RS4, 375 PS/1675 kg (sport auto 10/00)

8:25 --- 146.851 km/h -- POS Callaway C12, 400 PS/1564 kg (sport auto 04/99)

8:25 --- 146.851 km/h -- Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VI, 300 PS/1466 kg (sport auto 11/99)

8:25 --- 146.851 km/h -- Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VII (sport auto 11/02)

8:26 --- 146.561 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLK 32 AMG, 354 PS/1480 kg (sport auto 05/01)

8:26 --- 146.561 km/h -- Nissan 350Z, 280 PS/1526 kg (sport auto 10/03)

8:28 --- 145.984 km/h -- BMW M5, 400PS/1833 kg (sport auto 03/99)

8:28 --- 145.984 km/h -- Nissan Skyline GTR, 277 PS

8:28 --- 145.984 km/h -- Porsche 993 Carrera 2, 285 PS/1452 kg (sport auto 01/98)

8:28 --- 145.984 km/h -- Porsche Carrera Cabrio (sport auto 04/97)

8:28.93 145.690 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX sedan (1992) www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf

8:29 --- 145.697 km/h -- Mercedes Benz CLK 55 AMG, 347 PS/1593 kg (sport auto 05/00)

8:29 --- 145.697 km/h -- Audi S4 4.2 Avant, 344 PS/1826 kg (sport auto 11/03)

8:30 --- 145.412 km/h -- Maserati Coupé Cambiocorsa, 320 PS/1593 kg (sport auto 10/02)

I think the Veyron in the hands of a solid driver should do better than 7.30 at the ring.There are lots of fast straightaways where the car will absolutely fly

 

This isn't asking for too much at all.....

 

If Stuck got a 700 HP X5 around the Ring in 7:49, then what do you expect from 300 more hp, superior handling platform, and AWD to keep the power in check??

 

The Veyron crushing the Ring under 7 1/2 minutes is cool, but I'm more curious what it could do around a typical F1 track.

I think the Veyron in the hands of a solid driver should do better than 7.30 at the ring.There are lots of fast straightaways where the car will absolutely fly

 

This isn't asking for too much at all.....

 

If Stuck got a 700 HP X5 around the Ring in 7:49, then what do you expect from 300 more hp, superior handling platform, and AWD to keep the power in check??

 

The Veyron crushing the Ring under 7 1/2 minutes is cool, but I'm more curious what it could do around a typical F1 track.

 

What they don't tell you about the X5 is that it was a purposely built car.Everything was modified on it,not just the engine.

The Veyron has lots of HP but is also very heavy.I don't think it would set any records around an F1 track.And with AWD,it probably has a lot of understeer in tight corners

I think the Veyron in the hands of a solid driver should do better than 7.30 at the ring.There are lots of fast straightaways where the car will absolutely fly

 

This isn't asking for too much at all.....

 

If Stuck got a 700 HP X5 around the Ring in 7:49, then what do you expect from 300 more hp, superior handling platform, and AWD to keep the power in check??

 

The Veyron crushing the Ring under 7 1/2 minutes is cool, but I'm more curious what it could do around a typical F1 track.

 

What they don't tell you about the X5 is that it was a purposely built car.Everything was modified on it,not just the engine.

The Veyron has lots of HP but is also very heavy.I don't think it would set any records around an F1 track.And with AWD,it probably has a lot of understeer in tight corners

 

As BMW is saying, the veyron is entirely a road car, the x5LM, was really just an X5 skin propped up on an LMP racer! the suspension would be brutal, the engine might not even idle consistently! overall, the veyron will surely have an admirable showing, but its home is long long open highways:)

I think the Veyron in the hands of a solid driver should do better than 7.30 at the ring.There are lots of fast straightaways where the car will absolutely fly

 

This isn't asking for too much at all.....

 

If Stuck got a 700 HP X5 around the Ring in 7:49, then what do you expect from 300 more hp, superior handling platform, and AWD to keep the power in check??

 

The Veyron crushing the Ring under 7 1/2 minutes is cool, but I'm more curious what it could do around a typical F1 track.

 

What they don't tell you about the X5 is that it was a purposely built car.Everything was modified on it,not just the engine.

The Veyron has lots of HP but is also very heavy.I don't think it would set any records around an F1 track.And with AWD,it probably has a lot of understeer in tight corners

 

It still amazes me that an SUV can be made to handle very well. I guess as long as you don't provoke the achilles heel of one (very sudden change of direction), you can in effect make them corner at high speeds.

 

The Veyron was never intended to be a track monster as you note. Thing is, people expect this $1M car to be able to do all things perfectly, and they don't realize that engine performance doesn't equal handling. It probably would do nicely at the Ring, but if I had to put my money on a Veyron vs. Gallardo SE or Murcielago at Monaco , I'd probably put it on the Lamborghini!

So Vanha,

Which is it, Corvettes are faster than whatever you own or is it just the standard, lame, jeolous, European excuses about corvettes: too big, fiberglass, etc...Also, the 7:56 time for a POS C6 was NOT posted by Dave Hill, he is the freshly retired chief engineer for POS. You obviously don't like corvettes which is your choice, however, do all of us own corvettes (and enjoy them) the honor of not calling them POS's.

 

Thanks,

Jimmy

So Vanha,

Which is it, Corvettes are faster than whatever you own or is it just the standard, lame, jeolous, European excuses about corvettes: too big, fiberglass, etc...Also,  the 7:56 time for a POS C6 was NOT posted by Dave Hill, he is the freshly retired chief engineer for POS. You obviously don't like corvettes which is your choice, however, do all of us own corvettes (and enjoy them)  the honor of not calling them POS's.

 

Thanks,

Jimmy

 

Nice first post from an oversensitive c orvette owner.No need to pick on Vanha.It is not his doing.

So Vanha,

Which is it, Corvettes are faster than whatever you own or is it just the standard, lame, jeolous, European excuses about corvettes: too big, fiberglass, etc...Also,  the 7:56 time for a POS C6 was NOT posted by Dave Hill, he is the freshly retired chief engineer for POS. You obviously don't like corvettes which is your choice, however, do all of us own corvettes (and enjoy them)  the honor of not calling them POS's.

 

Thanks,

Jimmy

 

:goodman: :goodman: :goodman: :goodman: :goodman: :goodman: :goodman: :goodman:

Sorry, didn't mean to come across as "oversensitive". I didn't understand that the first post here was suppossed to start out with "Hi, I'm a newbie and I'm going to keep my thoughts to myself until I reach ....about 3500 posts."

 

Check, please

Jimmy

Sorry, didn't mean to come across as "oversensitive". I didn't understand that the first post here was suppossed to start out with "Hi, I'm a newbie and I'm going to keep my thoughts to myself until I reach ....about 3500 posts."  

 

Check, please

Jimmy

 

You are more than welcome to have your own opinions and to voice them.

You might want to be a little more diplomatic and have less attitude considering you don't know anyone here.

In case you don't understand,CHILL OR SAY BYE BYE

You are correct, I will kill my attitude , suggest the the same as you don't know me, and will chill and say bye bye (with no yelling)

 

Jimmy

You are correct, I will kill my attitude , suggest the the same as you don't know me, and will chill and say bye bye (with no yelling)

 

Jimmy

 

 

It's a little known fact that Jimbo here found lambo-power via a link on

 

www.peoplewithseriousattitudeproblems.com

 

(Note: Link currently invalid, due to a bad joke.)

7:43.5 - 160,000 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)

 

has anyone found the article that will confirm this time?

7:43.5 - 160,000 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)

 

has anyone found the article that will confirm this time?

 

The article can be found in Autocar Magazine. Contact them and order a back issue from 2002.

 

-James Miller

7:43.5 - 160,000 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)

 

has anyone found the article that will confirm this time?

 

The article can be found in Autocar Magazine. Contact them and order a back issue from 2002.

 

-James Miller

 

me no money,me too po'

 

 

allan said he has it but apperantly hes too lazy to scan it ive PM him too many times about it, I feel sorry for him yes I said it, I feel sorry for a guy who owns (owned) 2 lambos