1977 Countach LP400

http://www.autodrome-cannes.com/lamborghin...p400_yellow.htm

 

She's waiting for a new owner !

:thumb That is an amazing looking CT.

Look at how clean the lines are inside that thing! :prayer:

What is current market price for a USA LP400 like that if you can find one for sale ?

They are asking 109,000 Euros. That would end up being roughly 20/25% more in dollars.

 

 

For a car like that, originality would be very important. It is a collector car. Not a hot rod. It is obviously restored. The quality and originality of the restoration and depth would figure heavily in your calculation. Who did the restoration ?

Jacques body shop, or a European Lamborghini specialist ?

 

 

Beautiful car from the pics.

Too much money for an LP400

Price is high.But those early CTs are so sweet ,the lines so clean :prayer: .

Paint and interior have been restorated, supsensions and clutch are new. Dunno who did it, but it's all good.

hate the dash material

hate the dash material

 

 

That is what the factory offered.

It is some sort of imitation suede.Not nice at all underneath the windshield because it causes a lot of glare and shines under the sun

Why is that too much? I'm curious. Perhaps I will be viewed as bias as I have one. But what are they worth?

 

A Muira SV is selling in the 400K range and no one questions it other than wishing they had gotten theirs before it happened. They made roughly the same number (150) SV's as they did LP400's.

 

Is the Muira a superior car? Was it more of a design statement in it's day than the LP400 was in its?

 

I'm curious as to what is too much for an exceptional example? I do not know the Yellow car or its history. It appears to be a nice car from the pictures so where is the value defined or denied?

 

The first few LP400 are unique in themselves having thin bodies, lots of magnesium components and adjustable Koni shocks. They were an all out effort at performance.

 

I would love to hear the reason why this yellow car is over priced.

 

Looking forward to your reply.

 

Best regards,

Ralph

Well, one of the reason is she is sleeping here, in French Riviera Everything is over priced in France, and special mention to the Riviera...

Tiamo

i owned an LP400 for 12 years.It was serial number 1120086.It was an absolutely beautiful car and i spent a lot of time restoring it and improving some areas so that it became much more driver friendly.By the time i was finished with the car,it probably was and still is to this day one of the best LP400's around.

I finally got tired of it and sold it to the US.I spoke with the second buyer and it seems it is now sitting in Gary Bobileffs shop.

I think a good price for an LP400 is about $100 to 110K US.I consider the LP400 to be the collectors Countach as it has the nice clean lines without wings and flares.

Is it the best Countach???I don't think so as the c/t evolved throughout its production years and some of the later models are superior to the LP400 in performance,ergonomics and reliability.

Having said that i think the best c/t is the 5000qv and not the 25th or any other model.

Supply and demand is what determines the value of a car.You obviously know that so i am not telling you anything new.

If you watch the c/t marketplace,you will see that an LP400 is already commanding a premium over the other models.I have seen a couple of cars in the USA advertised at 110k which i believe is a very fair value.That is about 40k more than a good QV and the QV is the better car.

Comparing the c/t to the Miura,the SV is the better car of the series and imo it is way overpriced as it has become a status symbol.It is not that much better than an S and certainly not 250k better.

Unfortunately for Lambo enthusiasts,the SV market seems to be controlled right now by a bunch of speculators and not real car people which is a shame because it means they will keep being garage queens.

I think the c/t market is not in the same position at the present time and that being so the cars are still affordable.Will that change in the future???

TIME WILL TELL

 

Aram

I agree with Aram but think its day will come. Right now in the U.S. the market on cars like these has been lower for the last few years. A slow steady climb seems to be taking place and its hard to say if it will ever rocket up like it did ten or so years ago. I think in these times today you need to buy a particular car more for the love and not as an investment, generally speaking. I know there are always exceptions.

Interesting comments.

 

Jim Kaminsky told me on the phone that the QV was at the top of the C/T pole. Judging by "asking prices," the 89 Anniv cars that are garage queens, command the highest prices. - This is without taking into account the approximately 15 or so hi quality downdraft cars. I was trying to get a value on a 78/79 LP400 series 1 lowbody car. This really throws a monkey wrench into the equation. Ralph talks about how they made 150 LP 400's with the clean body. Talk to these guys with the LP 400 series 1 cars, and they want their cars to be singled out above the rest. Sure the LP 400 series 1 lowbody cars are special. But how does roughly an inch lower ride height, factory Campagnolo magnesium wheels, and a gen 1 SW gauge dash (with some cars) warrant a significant premium over the LP 400 post 1980 series 2 cars ? For (everyone else) it is just another Countach. They built approx "51" 78/79 c/t cars.

 

 

The LP 400 early cars have gone up a little. They are beginning to finally be recognized. You still have some "potential buyers" that are scared beyond belief of putting a C/T in the garage. What are they afraid of ? Spending 9K on a clutch after they take the car around the block. That scares buyers off. That is why the C/T is priced where it is. It may not go up in price anytime soon. They are all worried about maintainance costs. They hear stories of clutches that lasted only 3,000 miles. That is why a nice typical C/T is not priced at 125K. The C/T certainly has all the hype and looks. People have commented on what makes a future classic ? One of the key points was how many car magazine articles the auto was featured in. The C/T has no problem "even today" making the cover of several collector car magazines. You will never see a Jarama on the cover of a collector car magazine.

 

 

Back to the discussion about the early LP 400. I think the nice cars definately warrant the six figure price. They only built 150 cars. Some are already junk. That cannot leave many cars for the USA and Canada. As already mentioned, some collectors are only looking for the clean car. I rarely see any 75/77 LP 400 forsale in the USA.

1977 yellow Countach.....I am in love :heart: :heart: :heart: .

Mine is a 78 lp400s Series One Low Body. 10 cars were made that year and mine is number 2. It has bravo wheels, 6 carbs, and is blue. That's collector enough for me.

:thumb

I'll tell you what. The model in those pictures sure as hell didn't age nearly half as well as the car. :mrgreen:

Well I don't post on here often but this topic is very relevant so here goes...

 

I have been looking for a nice LP400 for a number of months and the dealer offered me the yellow LP400 per this thread 2 weeks ago

 

I told them I was seriously interested, booked a flight and was due to view the car tomorrow (Mar 12). The dealer promised to hold the car for me.

 

Anyway, 2 days ago I receive an e mail from said dealer saying he had sold the car as someone had sent him the money without viewing the car so "he had no choice".

 

I was not happy. Of course he had a choice - he should said he had someone looking at the car this weekend who had first option or at least phoned me to secure a deposit from me.

 

I had to cancel my flights which luckily didn't cost me much (GBP 118) and I wrote to the dealer saying it was only fair he compensated me this sum as he went back on his word. The dealer refused citing all manner of excuses....

 

Just to let everyone know this dealer should not be trusted - their word is worthless.

 

Craig

 

P.S. if anyone knows of any other nice LP400's around please let me know.

Sorry to hear that Craig. There are one or two good cars here in the States for sale.

Peter

 

I sent you a PM on this

 

Not sure if you got it?

 

Craig

Peter:

 

I was not aware of two LP 400's forsale in the USA ?