Roman Report post Posted July 22, 2009 I think this is a huge invasion of privacy. It is a lawsuit waiting to happen. What privacy is being invaded when you're out in public? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtgts300kw Report post Posted July 23, 2009 Most of them are still classified.... Especially the "good" ones. The third picture of the "antitank gun" gives an idea of the capabilities. uhhh, that photo is taken on the ground. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Report post Posted July 23, 2009 uhhh, that photo is taken on the ground. No.... It wasn't. Its an example of Oblique Aerial Reconnaissance Photography. The plane doesnt have to fly directly overhead the target. It can fly low at a distance and take angular shots to get ground detail (i.e. "the License Plate" everybody always hears about).... Its one of the advantages of a plane over a satellite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheelsRCool Report post Posted July 24, 2009 No.... It wasn't. Its an example of Oblique Aerial Reconnaissance Photography. The plane doesnt have to fly directly overhead the target. It can fly low at a distance and take angular shots to get ground detail (i.e. "the License Plate" everybody always hears about).... Its one of the advantages of a plane over a satellite. How the frig do you know all this stuff!? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny5 Report post Posted July 24, 2009 I've seen one of these beasts at duxford air museum in england - amazing. I found this link to a static display in LA behind the memorial coliseum LINKY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Report post Posted July 24, 2009 How the frig do you know all this stuff!? I read a lot. I've seen one of these beasts at duxford air museum in england - amazing. I found this link to a static display in LA behind the memorial coliseum LINKY Thats where I park when I go to the Coliseum/Nat History Museum.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFilipinoStig Report post Posted July 24, 2009 How the frig do you know all this stuff!? He's one of "them!" The SR-71 is a fantastic piece of human achievement! Reported ceiling is 80,000 feet, but some have said it can/has gone to 100,000 feet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destructo Report post Posted July 24, 2009 As far as the SR-71 goes, it's been rumored that they could read the year off of a dime at 80,000 feet. To give you an idea... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Report post Posted July 24, 2009 As far as the SR-71 goes, it's been rumored that they could read the year off of a dime at 80,000 feet. To give you an idea... They can check your colon for polyps at 75,000 feet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Report post Posted July 24, 2009 He's one of "them!" The SR-71 is a fantastic piece of human achievement! Reported ceiling is 80,000 feet, but some have said it can/has gone to 100,000 feet. Without getting into detail, I have an immediate relative who has logged (and was actually one of the FIRST to log) significant hours in the SR-71, back when it was still in testing. For years, not even his KIDS knew what he was doing as everything about his job was (and the details still are)top-secret. Amazing peice of machinery indeed.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destructo Report post Posted July 24, 2009 Without getting into detail, I have an immediate relative who has logged (and was actually one of the FIRST to log) significant hours in the SR-71, back when it was still in testing. For years, not even his KIDS knew what he was doing as everything about his job was (and the details still are)top-secret. Amazing peice of machinery indeed.. If you are granted "top secret" security clearance, are you allowed to look at everything deemed "top secret" or are you only allowed to look at what would be related to your field or job? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CL6 Report post Posted July 24, 2009 If you are granted "top secret" security clearance, are you allowed to look at everything deemed "top secret" or are you only allowed to look at what would be related to your field or job? From my understanding you only see the most very specifics of your task/job. You may not even know what the "project" you work on is really for. This is called compartmentalization. You only know what you "need to know". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheelsRCool Report post Posted July 24, 2009 Are things like the SR-71 built by one company or is the manufacturing spread out? For example, isn't the F-22 by Lockheed-Martin...? As such, wouldn't the CEO or Lockheed-Martin know the full capabilities of the aircraft...? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Report post Posted July 24, 2009 Are things like the SR-71 built by one company or is the manufacturing spread out? For example, isn't the F-22 by Lockheed-Martin...? As such, wouldn't the CEO or Lockheed-Martin know the full capabilities of the aircraft...? Defense contractors deal with top secret information all the time, and the people who work for them have to have such clearances before they are hired. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprite Report post Posted July 24, 2009 Defense contractors deal with top secret information all the time, and the people who work for them have to have such clearances before they are hired. Are foreigners able to get these clearances or only US citizens if for example working on a US military project? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Report post Posted July 24, 2009 Are foreigners able to get these clearances or only US citizens if for example working on a US military project? Generally, NO. There are rare exceptions made, however, such a security clearance takes quite a bit more time and are MUCH more difficult to obtain for obvious reasons. Check here for info. Sec. 2.6. Access by Non-United States Citizens. (a) Where there are compelling reasons in furtherance of an agency mission, immigrant alien and foreign national employees who possess a special expertise may, in the discretion of the agency, be granted limited access to classified information only for specific programs, projects, contracts, licenses, certificates, or grants for which there is a need for access. Such individuals shall not be eligible for access to any greater level of classified information than the United States Govern-ment has determined may be releasable to the country of which the subject is currently a citizen, and such limited access may be approved only if the prior 10 years of the subject's life can be appropriately investigated. If there are any doubts concerning granting access, additional lawful investigative procedures shall be fully pursued. ( Exceptions to these requirements may be permitted only by the agency head or the senior agency official designated under section 6.1 of this order to further substantial national security interests. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheelsRCool Report post Posted July 25, 2009 The Chinese seem to be particularly adept at stealing U.S. military technology secrets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Report post Posted July 25, 2009 For those interested in learning more about the SR-71, The Military Channel has an episode of "Great Planes" airing TONIGHT devoted to it. 10 PM Eastern (7 Pacific) with a repeat at 1am Eastern (10 Pacific). The Military Channel- Great Planes- SR-71 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamboless Mims Report post Posted July 25, 2009 For those interested in learning more about the SR-71, The Military Channel has an episode of "Great Planes" airing TONIGHT devoted to it. 10 PM Eastern (7 Pacific) with a repeat at 1am Eastern (10 Pacific). The Military Channel- Great Planes- SR-71 A walking infopedia. Wish I could have watched that. I love the SR-71. I thought the US decided to "publicise", so to speak, all top secret files after 50/60 years? Anyone have details on this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Report post Posted July 25, 2009 A walking infopedia. Wish I could have watched that. I love the SR-71. I thought the US decided to "publicise", so to speak, all top secret files after 50/60 years? Anyone have details on this? Actually, Its the opposite. There are multiple rules for various governmental agencies/materials. Sometimes classified materials become public through legal challenges and such, but basically The National Archives are tasked with reviewing classified materials in their possession at certain intervals (some 25 years, some 50- Some longer) and then after the documents are reviewed, the decision is made as to whether the documents should be declassified or not (sometimes after heavy redacting). At that point they just go to the public areas of the Archives and sit there.... Until somebody files an FOIA request to see them. In the 90's various agencies began "Reclassifying" previously declassified materials... It has caused a bit of a stir, but as far as I know the documents are still "reclassified". Obviously, there are documents from say the 70's that if made public they would compromise on-going methods and procedures. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Report post Posted July 25, 2009 If you are granted "top secret" security clearance, are you allowed to look at everything deemed "top secret" or are you only allowed to look at what would be related to your field or job? Information is passed along the Department of Defense STRICTLY on a "Need-to-know" basis. If you are assigned to a certain requirement and have the proper clearance, you will have access to what you NEED TO KNOW to perform your job. At any given time, there are thousands of top-secret (highest classification) projects going on in the military. In general, the people that have even heard RUMORS about them are the ones directly or indirectly involved. That is all. From my understanding you only see the most very specifics of your task/job. You may not even know what the "project" you work on is really for. This is called compartmentalization. You only know what you "need to know". Correct. Are things like the SR-71 built by one company or is the manufacturing spread out? For example, isn't the F-22 by Lockheed-Martin...? As such, wouldn't the CEO or Lockheed-Martin know the full capabilities of the aircraft...? Yes, the F-22 was contracted and built by Lockheed Martin, and the CEO would have full access to its capabilities. However, projects such as this would also have dozens (if not hundreds) of subcontractors, also licensed Defense Contractors, and ALL also under confidentiality/non-disclosure agreements, who are supplying parts for the plane and who may help assemble it. So there are ALOT of people involved when a plane like this comes together. For anyone that dosent know, I work as a high-level Specialist for the Department of Defense in Military Acquisitions and Contracts. So obviously stuff like this interests me a tad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragvorl Report post Posted July 25, 2009 For those interested in learning more about the SR-71, The Military Channel has an episode of "Great Planes" airing TONIGHT devoted to it. 10 PM Eastern (7 Pacific) with a repeat at 1am Eastern (10 Pacific). The Military Channel- Great Planes- SR-71 For the ones who still want to see it, it's available as a torrent dl, here's the link. http://www.mininova.org/tor/724293 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destructo Report post Posted July 25, 2009 Information is passed along the Department of Defense STRICTLY on a "Need-to-know" basis. If you are assigned to a certain requirement and have the proper clearance, you will have access to what you NEED TO KNOW to perform your job. At any given time, there are thousands of top-secret (highest classification) projects going on in the military. In general, the people that have even heard RUMORS about them are the ones directly or indirectly involved. That is all. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CL6 Report post Posted July 26, 2009 Information is passed along the Department of Defense STRICTLY on a "Need-to-know" basis. If you are assigned to a certain requirement and have the proper clearance, you will have access to what you NEED TO KNOW to perform your job. At any given time, there are thousands of top-secret (highest classification) projects going on in the military. In general, the people that have even heard RUMORS about them are the ones directly or indirectly involved. That is all. Correct. Yes, the F-22 was contracted and built by Lockheed Martin, and the CEO would have full access to its capabilities. However, projects such as this would also have dozens (if not hundreds) of subcontractors, also licensed Defense Contractors, and ALL also under confidentiality/non-disclosure agreements, who are supplying parts for the plane and who may help assemble it. So there are ALOT of people involved when a plane like this comes together. For anyone that dosent know, I work as a high-level Specialist for the Department of Defense in Military Acquisitions and Contracts. So obviously stuff like this interests me a tad. Cool! Time to start passing top secret info to your L-Power boys. Let's start with, Is the Aurora jet reality? Also isn't there another level of clearance called above top secret? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
600600again Report post Posted July 26, 2009 big brother Try living in the UK, almost everywhere is covered by CCTV. On Google Earth they have attempted to cover up number plates for UK images. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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