rakjoe Report post Posted December 8, 2009 What's up with that? http://cbs2.com/local/ICE.Cizeta.V16.2.1355988.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilio Report post Posted December 8, 2009 sad to hear talking about US and Euro laws i had been told by US-UK diablo is not a safe idea to f..k with US temporary import laws this is the proof it it a wise idea Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcabron Report post Posted December 8, 2009 I bet someone ratted on him Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin2772 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 I love how our system works. They essentially go in and steal the car from him because its illegal for him to have it. Then they put it in their own name, and sell it at auction to a new customer, who is then told to export it. Some of our laws here are so fcuking stupid. Unless he was driving it all over the place I dont see the harm. One fcuking car! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boner Report post Posted December 8, 2009 What is even more unbelievable is that a person can build a car, horseless carriage, or whatever they want and have death trap rolling down the road. This car is probably safer than any of those. and probably more efficient than many cars on the road. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SECC_Joe Report post Posted December 8, 2009 I'm glad to see that our Federal law enforcement resources are being used to keep us all safe!! Great job ICE! Now I can sleep peacefully knowing that you are watching over us! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Toe Juice Report post Posted December 8, 2009 Someone should send that link to Roy Cats. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin2772 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 Is that in reference to his "street Legal" Diablo GT's and SVR? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApexOversteer Report post Posted December 8, 2009 Well, this is interesting... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApexOversteer Report post Posted December 8, 2009 Unless he was driving it all over the place I dont see the harm. One fcuking car! There is evidence around the web that he was doing just that. From the number of events the car has shown up at in the last couple years, and the possibility of it having been driven to them, it appears to me that it has possibly been driven a typical mileage for a super-rare exotic of this type. Photo Credit: Noah Gillard Its a shame for sure, but whoever imported the car and agreed to the terms of the temporary importation are to blame. But hey... means there will be a Cizeta Moroder on the market soon! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKBULL Report post Posted December 8, 2009 Can't someone apply for a special exemption??? I believe that's how registration of one off's & homebuilts are done...no??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohlgren Report post Posted December 8, 2009 Two web sites for Cizeta, one looks official http://www.cizetav16t.com/Welcome.html One is an embezzlement warning http://www.cizetav16t.com/Welcome.html At concorso Italiano 2003 there were a few Cizetas in the show and Claudio Zampoli was selling them hard. I liked the guy and got the impression they were US legal. He and his group drove them around Monterrey. There are a few clips of it being driven in the US on Youtube. Here is a good clip of the car The fact the gov can take that car is screwed up! Ticket him for driving it on the street, fine him for breaking import laws, make him get it out of the country. They shouldn't be able to take it and then sell it! As far as the value, if it was a '96 and came into the country in 2001, $125,000 does not seem that unreasonable. The Cizeta is comparable to a Diablo and at that time, used Diablos were going for $125,000. What is the blue book on a used '96 Cizeta? With only 10 being built, they don't seem all that popular. $125,000 seems reasonable enough to put on a document. I like those cars. Always hoped Cizeta could hold on and put a car out once in a while. With a little styling update, I could have seen them surviving. They could have gotten around the import laws by selling incomplete cars similar to what they do with the Noble. Funny there is no mention on the web site that they are not street legal and could be seized by the government. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohlgren Report post Posted December 8, 2009 Can't someone apply for a special exemption??? I believe that's how registration of one off's & homebuilts are done...no??? He built the car in his own small factory. He probably could have called it a kit car.... I think he had a few options. He has California plates on it in some clips. Wondered how he managed that with a non-compliant car? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprite Report post Posted December 8, 2009 Retarded. Does the government not have better things to do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohlgren Report post Posted December 8, 2009 More info for those interested. http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/08/report-...gray-market-ci/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbuff Report post Posted December 8, 2009 Is it just me who sees some justice here? Hard to feel sorry for a guy who chopped up and basterdized a Diablo.... Payback is a bitch! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin2772 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 Is it just me who sees some justice here? Hard to feel sorry for a guy who chopped up and basterdized a Diablo.... Payback is a bitch! I think that would more pertain to vector then it would Cizeta. But Vector got theirs as well...I still think its a load of crap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Dushku Report post Posted December 8, 2009 So this is what ICE is doing? I can think of plenty of other things they could be working on... I'm glad seizing that car will make us more safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin2772 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 Not to mention all the Skyline GTR;s taht they are taking off the street. I was starting to lose sleep at night thinking about what kind of mischeif cars like these were causing! Finally our kids are safe! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohlgren Report post Posted December 8, 2009 Is it just me who sees some justice here? Hard to feel sorry for a guy who chopped up and basterdized a Diablo.... Payback is a bitch! I think it is an interesting story. Zampoli worked at Lamborghini as an engineer for years and left when Chrysler took over to start his own venture. Gandini designed the Diablo for Lamborghini and Chrysler "bastardized" the design and heavily modified it for aerodynamics. Zampoli approached Gandini to design his Cizeta and Gandini sold him a slightly modified original Diablo design. Cizeta sprouted up in Italy when Chrysler bought Lamborghini and was made up of ex-Lamborghini employees using an original Diablo design for an original engine layout. This was all back in the late 80's. I think the company died more or less in the mid 90's. Zampoli moved to the US and tried a second go of it. Never took off and now his car is being taken away. Justice or payback? Depends how you look at it I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohlgren Report post Posted December 8, 2009 Is it just me who sees some justice here? Hard to feel sorry for a guy who chopped up and basterdized a Diablo.... Payback is a bitch! I think it is an interesting story. Zampoli worked at Lamborghini as an engineer for years and left when Chrysler took over to start his own venture. Gandini designed the Diablo for Lamborghini and Chrysler "bastardized" the design for aerodynamics and their taste. Zampoli approached Gandini to design his Cizeta and Gandini sold him a slightly modified original Diablo design. Cizeta sprouted up in Italy when Chrysler bought Lamborghini and was made up of ex-Lamborghini employees using an original Diablo design for an original engine layout. This was all back in the late 80's. I think the company died more or less in the mid 90's. Zampoli moved to the US and tried a second go of it. Never took off and now his car is being taken away. Justice or payback? Depends how you look at it I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApexOversteer Report post Posted December 8, 2009 He built the car in his own small factory. He probably could have called it a kit car.... I think he had a few options. He has California plates on it in some clips. Wondered how he managed that with a non-compliant car? The Autoblog article mentions the car being driven on a "manufacturer plate"... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Report post Posted December 9, 2009 This guy lied to government on the importing documents, and managed to keep it in the country and enjoy it for 8 years? And all that happened was the government took the car away from him? Seems like a fair trade to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ping Report post Posted December 9, 2009 Thats not the car from Italy. If a guy lives in LA and builds a kit car that looks like a Lamborghini can the Gov take it away and send it to auction. Thats what I see here. You know he built proto types. You know there were extra parts left over. Here are photos of a car being put together in LA He is not a factory so I think this is a KIT made with some original parts. I dont think that California can afford to be sued right know over 1 F-ing car. This Guy was the one that put Eddie Van Halen and Sammy Hagar together. He is one of the best mechanics in the USA. Why pick on him ? He's not rich he's not hurting anyone. I just don't get it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ping Report post Posted December 9, 2009 Thinking back didn't the US Gov try to take this car before but a Judge ruled and gave it back to him. You would think that with the taxes we pay our US Gov could spend a little money on a computer to track these type of things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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