LPDADDY Report post Posted April 24, 2017 i understand this, but first hand experience with 2 X countach 400s and second hand with LP400 and All sort of later countach i drove, know or heard, (including many friends that owned one) you are one of the less happy with it so probably or was not the car for your taste, or your car, even rebuilt, restored etc... was Still a bit down on power or not the best performer i Sure believe the XJ220 is much better built and better driving car and yes... has to be expected being a 10-20 years younger car Built to be a F40 contender FYI i know personally a XJ220 owner that had a very nice collection in UK: diablo Jota, F40, countach, etc.... and he said the XJ was the worst car of his collection. i believe his 220 was simply a "bad" one, but he still think the model is a overrated sport car more or less the way you feel about the countach i found with vintage sport cars of 20+ years the difference btw a very good one, a average and a bad one is unbelievable. some countach were better than others when new...same goes for EB 110s and probably XJ220 to i am still a huge XJ 220 fan and i am sure a good one is a great car... i almost bought one 5 years ago in green and still regret not having pulled the trigger at the time.i got a diablo instead but the XJ is a MUCH more special car imo These cars are like art, so the like or dislike is very subjective. My LP400 was very well sorted, i would rate it as one the best driving Countach out there. I spent a ton of time sorting out the carbs, there was no bogging at full throttle and sorted out all the minor bugs. Very frustrating at times. The LP400 is not fast, it looks great and sounds even better but it is not tomy driving taste, more like an art piece on wheels. The XJ220 is very special, very well built and i agree with you, it is not that hard to drive or fix, just has a bad rap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan-Herbie Report post Posted April 24, 2017 These cars are like art, so the like or dislike is very subjective. My LP400 was very well sorted, i would rate it as one the best driving Countach out there. I spent a ton of time sorting out the carbs, there was no bogging at full throttle and sorted out all the minor bugs. Very frustrating at times. The LP400 is not fast, it looks great and sounds even better but it is not tomy driving taste, more like an art piece on wheels. The XJ220 is very special, very well built and i agree with you, it is not that hard to drive or fix, just has a bad rap. XJ220 is JUNK! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPDADDY Report post Posted April 24, 2017 XJ220 is JUNK! Your opinion is junk lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pakisho Report post Posted April 24, 2017 Someone I know that owns around 30 cars-LP640, Ford GT, Ferrari F40, Testarossa, etc etc etc.........he says his Countach is his favorite. Its white with blue leather inside, all original. Beautiful car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambointhegarage Report post Posted April 24, 2017 @Emilio: I like your comments with regards to the Countach. And congrats to your one, what a cool combo white/red. At the 50th tour was a white/red one with German number plates, I loved it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilio Report post Posted April 24, 2017 XJ220 is JUNK! i like it and i also like the EB110 2 of the most underrated sportcars for a long time. now things are changed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilio Report post Posted April 24, 2017 @Emilio: I like your comments with regards to the Countach. And congrats to your one, what a cool combo white/red. At the 50th tour was a white/red one with German number plates, I loved it. TKS! for both congrats for your awesome collection of lambos! please post a pic of the countach here i seen that car, German car, i think one owner since new. very Nice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteout Report post Posted April 24, 2017 I need the prices of these shitboxes to come down so I can afford one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMan Report post Posted April 24, 2017 I need the prices of these shitboxes to come down so I can afford one. Slowly and surely they are! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smash Boy Report post Posted April 24, 2017 I need the prices of these shitboxes to come down so I can afford one. Slowly and surely they are! When I was the GRANDPA AGE of 26, these shitboxes could be bought for a low six figure song....and a Testarossa for maybe $50k. Oh man, those were the days of 2005. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smash Boy Report post Posted April 24, 2017 Your opinion is junk lol You're giving a very indirect push for the 512 TR, which many on here would claim is no better than a CT. That car may not be very nimble but it can brake from 130 to 80 with authority and felt pretty easy to drive otherwise. It felt a lot like a Diablo just not as fast. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan-Herbie Report post Posted April 24, 2017 Took out my horrible pos today, so I figured Id post some pics of how bad these cars really are! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan-Herbie Report post Posted April 24, 2017 And this one for Lpdaddy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPDADDY Report post Posted April 25, 2017 And this one for Lpdaddy! You should have wiped off your come stains off the car , you are the only person I know who takes the same pictures of the same car at the same spot over and over . Obviously no fcuking life . I will send you some Viagra some you can wank off repeatedly without too much interruption . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan-Herbie Report post Posted April 25, 2017 You should have wiped off your come stains off the car , you are the only person I know who takes the same pictures of the same car at the same spot over and over . Obviously no fcuking life . I will send you some Viagra some you can wank off repeatedly without too much interruption . Daddyo.. this is simply not true! I take pics of 4 different cars at the same spot over and over! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPDADDY Report post Posted April 25, 2017 Daddyo.. this is simply not true! I take pics of 4 different cars at the same spot over and over! Somewhat true , 3 shitbombs and a real car , the CGT that you don't know how to drive like a real man Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert-LP Report post Posted April 25, 2017 Everything I described as a problem with the countach was from first hand experience , I restored the LP400 when i bought it , some of the issues are fixable and some are not. FYI I also own an XJ200s that is being restored , cannot compare the 2 cars , the XJ220 is infinitely better built than a countach and much better driving car , but that is to be expected . I think it's not easy to find someone in the USA that can properly restore and service a Countach: it's very hard here too (and we are exactly where the car was built and I even sent the car to the shop of the former Lamborghini factory internal assistance point boss). So I can easily imagine that restoring and servicing one in USA can be a nightmare and/or an ocean of money. Reading what you wrote, maybe you didn't found the "right" shop: the car hasn't all those problems, trust me. It has several, but not so many and so big. Here there were a lot of rumors about the Ferrari 208 turbo early model: bad working and so on. All bull s h i t s. I have four of them, so I know how things are: you just have to send the car where they know how to properly fix/service it and pay the money they ask. Just then you will have a great car. In any case no shop can erase the car's faults, that are the ones I wrote: no more, but no less, of course ciao Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan-Herbie Report post Posted April 25, 2017 Somewhat true , 3 shitbombs and a real car , the CGT that you don't know how to drive like a real man Damn... I cant wait to kick you in the nuts! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan-Herbie Report post Posted April 25, 2017 I think it's not easy to find someone in the USA that can properly restore and service a Countach: it's very hard here too (and we are exactly where the car was built and I even sent the car to the shop of the former Lamborghini factory internal assistance point boss). So I can easily imagine that restoring and servicing one in USA can be a nightmare and/or an ocean of money. Reading what you wrote, maybe you didn't found the "right" shop: the car hasn't all those problems, trust me. It has several, but not so many and so big. Here there were a lot of rumors about the Ferrari 208 turbo early model: bad working and so on. All bull s h i t s. I have four of them, so I know how things are: you just have to send the car where they know how to properly fix/service it and pay the money they ask. Just then you will have a great car. In any case no shop can erase the car's faults, that are the ones I wrote: no more, but no less, of course ciao I actually think the opposite. There are several places in the U.S. that are fantastic to fix/restore/maintain the Countach. Versus looking at say your build where you had constant issues with your car after restoring it. Gives adage to the saying, what makes you think they can fix them, when they couldnt build them right in the first place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan-Herbie Report post Posted April 26, 2017 Somewhat true , 3 shitbombs and a real car , the CGT that you don't know how to drive like a real man I took another pic for you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert-LP Report post Posted April 26, 2017 I actually think the opposite. There are several places in the U.S. that are fantastic to fix/restore/maintain the Countach. Versus looking at say your build where you had constant issues with your car after restoring it. Gives adage to the saying, what makes you think they can fix them, when they couldnt build them right in the first place. At the end, as I restored other cars after that unlucky Countach, I learned this: my carburator specialist was a dog. It did another disaster on an F car, that I had to fix with a much better carburator specialist. And now (that I just own F cars and a Maserati) I finally found an excellent Lamborghini specialist here around. I have to say this: you too need to have some experience to restore a car, while I hadn't it when I got my CT in 2009, that was my first classic ever. So: the judgement you have of your classic car, depends also from your ability and your restorer ability. I always wonder how could have been my experience with my former CT if I had the knowledge I have now: much better for sure and some money saved too. ciao Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan-Herbie Report post Posted April 26, 2017 At the end, as I restored other cars after that unlucky Countach, I learned this: my carburator specialist was a dog. It did another disaster on an F car, that I had to fix with a much better carburator specialist. And now (that I just own F cars and a Maserati) I finally found an excellent Lamborghini specialist here around. I have to say this: you too need to have some experience to restore a car, while I hadn't it when I got my CT in 2009, that was my first classic ever. So: the judgement you have of your classic car, depends also from your ability and your restorer ability. I always wonder how could have been my experience with my former CT if I had the knowledge I have now: much better for sure and some money saved too. ciao For sure... Carbs are a nightmare if they dont know what they are doing. Hopefully you get another so you can do it again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redlambo Report post Posted April 26, 2017 For sure... Carbs are a nightmare if they dont know what they are doing. Hopefully you get another so you can do it again! And Sidedraft webers are exponentially more difficult than downdrafts. At least with downdrafts you can use a hand held syncrometer to balance them out. With sidedraft you do not have the room. So you either have to have a multi cylinder manometer or have the engine out of the car on a test stand to tune. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert-LP Report post Posted April 26, 2017 And Sidedraft webers are exponentially more difficult than downdrafts. At least with downdrafts you can use a hand held syncrometer to balance them out. With sidedraft you do not have the room. So you either have to have a multi cylinder manometer or have the engine out of the car on a test stand to tune. The 308 carbed has downdraft carbs, but he did a big mess also there. I just learned this when my F mechanic told me "please tell to your carburator specialist to change work, as soon as possible". I asked why, then he asked me "do you have a bit of time? please wait here and see". Then, in twenty minutes, they showed me why. Just then I realized why my CT almost never worked as expected: Too late, unfortunately. Carbs must be redone completely, with ducts ported and new butterfly valves too, new gaskests (all...) and same pieces for all of them. So, coming back to topic, Countach is not so bad if properly restored and serviced: it's always an enemy, but sometimes very pleasant. My one just worked well for two-three hours after changing all the spark plugs. But also during those (very nice) two hours it had all the fault of the car (they cannot be fixed): it's not an easy car, but it's a fantastic experience to drive and own one. ciao Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPDADDY Report post Posted April 26, 2017 The 308 carbed has downdraft carbs, but he did a big mess also there. I just learned this when my F mechanic told me "please tell to your carburator specialist to change work, as soon as possible". I asked why, then he asked me "do you have a bit of time? please wait here and see". Then, in twenty minutes, they showed me why. Just then I realized why my CT almost never worked as expected: Too late, unfortunately. Carbs must be redone completely, with ducts ported and new butterfly valves too, new gaskests (all...) and same pieces for all of them. So, coming back to topic, Countach is not so bad if properly restored and serviced: it's always an enemy, but sometimes very pleasant. My one just worked well for two-three hours after changing all the spark plugs. But also during those (very nice) two hours it had all the fault of the car (they cannot be fixed): it's not an easy car, but it's a fantastic experience to drive and own one. ciao It took me almost a month to set up the carbs on the LP400, i would go out for a drive, come back, do adjustments and repeat the process. I did get it right, the car ran perfect when i was done with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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