JanDaMan

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  1. JanDaMan

    Any LP640 with good history for sale?

    Yes that blue is nice! I would snatch that up myself if I could. Need to sell a Pantera or two first. Saw a blue one in the service lot at Newport Lambo yesterday and that color in the sun is so nice. First one I ever saw in person in that color...yum!
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    Starter problem?

    Yeah I think you may be right, gunk build up or just corrosion on the internal contact points. Car is super clean and in non treacherous Southern CA environment, but I guess contact points get crap on them somehow maybe just from internal moving parts. But at about 1:50 in the video below it gave me an idea of what internal contact points look like. Will be about three weeks before I can take it in for a real diagnosis, and if it’s the starter then a week or two for it to arrive. But I don’t feel comfortable driving it as is and parking somewhere. Tried it some more today and about half the time the key alone starts it. Good idea to run some cables on yours when you replace the starter, although with a new one I would hope for at least 10 more years of no starter issues. I guess someone would still need the key in the on position to steal it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nij6sRRjEwk
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    Starter problem?

    Although I am skeptical in driving it now, it sure sounded good on start up and neighbors said I looked like this below.
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    Starter problem?

    Went out to the car this morning and tried to start the car a few times, but nothing except the usual loud click. Then I hooked up the remote starter with 10 gauge wire and fork connector as mentioned above and slipped that onto the solenoid red wire/screw and hooked all that line to one end of the remote starter, then clamped the other end of the remote starter to the large silver bolt, got in the car and turned the key to the on position, pressed the remote starter button and the car started. Then the funky part: I then tried to start the car with just the key alone (not pressing the remote starter) and the car started. So, I tried a few times with just the key alone and it started most of the time, however one time I just got the loud click again. Not sure what to think now. If it only started with the remote starter alone, I guess that would mean the fault would be somewhere in anything that leads back through that red wire or the wire itself. I will try it a few times throughout the day with the key alone but still leave everything connected under the car. However at this point I am a bit skeptical of driving it and stopping somewhere thinking "problem solved". I suppose I could now drive it to Newport Lambo and have them look it over; but at this point it seems to be starting so what could they see? I hate intermittent electrical stuff, reminds me of my old Maserati Biturbo days with intermittent electrical headaches.
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    Starter problem?

    Still determined to put that remote starter to use, so off to Home Depot to get some 12 gauge wire and hook it to a fork connector to slip it under the red wire/screw and then will be able to clamp on the remote starter on the other end. Then maybe will be able to put this to rest.
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    Starter problem?

    My remote starter arrived but no way the large clip would fit onto the little space where the red wire/screw is located due to all the tight space plastic housing around it. Fit fine on the large silver bolt though. So while I was there I unscrewed the screw slightly on the red wire and moved the wire around to help clean the connection, shot it with a little WD 40 moved it more and tightened down real good. I didn’t remove the screw entirely to clean because with one hand access it would have been a little difficult to get the wire & screw back on. However it looked real clean and that white substance in the photo behind the screw in the photo I now saw was just a washer. But I was able to use a better alligator clip directly on the red wire prong itself and this time got 10.48 v while turning the key to start. I had to hold the key in the start position for about 4 seconds though while the voltage climbed and it seemed to level there. Now I know last time it was only .26 because the clip fell off. Jeff showed me how to test that same red wire route at a white plastic connector near the firewall but I had some difficulty getting that disconnected. I figured if I clamped on the red wire spade that may be good enough for another test, although I didn’t get 12 v.
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    Starter problem?

    Yes I think that’s what PoKnow was suggesting to do if using the remote starter switch on the red wire bolt and silver bolt doesn’t make it start. He was thinking to then try the remote starter on the black bolt and the silver bolt (silver bolt is essentially the same positive battery voltage).
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    Starter problem?

    Yeah I see what you mean, I am supposed to get 12v at that red wire when turning the key to start but all I get was .26v. I did all tests shown above twice and the other time got .25v on the red wire (that's all before it fell off because the solenoid click caused the test clip to fall off). If I can slip a stick between those two terminals to prevent accidental contact I can test that red wire again with a larger clip that may stay on better. I sifted through the web to try and get educated some more and found some good links below. You are right, if 12v doesn't go through that red wire in turning the key to start, you could still hear a click where the solenoid plunger starts to move but it may not move enough to make the main contact points connect. One video (the guy in the snow second link) also shows what the contact points inside the solenoid look like, so I could see how corrosion there could also be an issue with click noise but no start. However if I don't get 12v at the red wire from the ignition it probably isn't even getting to the point of making the those contacts connect inside the solenoid. In the end at least I am getting educated and haven't killed myself yet. Major rain here today, so I can't get at it yet. Probably elemental stuff in the links below for most, but I am more visual and each seemed to help in various respects. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rBNtSgfCkk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nij6sRRjEwk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOENEG2KajY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2ytpOmOaIs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfvVNjsZ9ic
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    Starter problem?

    Was just thinking about this and was wondering if the red wire to the silver bolt connection is where the problem may be within the starter/solenoid. Since I hear a loud click at the solinoid when I try to start and a voltage drop at the silver bolt then isn’t that connection already happening correctly inside the solenoid? To me it seems the problem may be something preventing power transfer from the silver bolt to the black bolt since only .26 volts are going there. I am obviously no expert but just following the voltage response coupled with the loud click noise. Remote starter will be here soon so I will try it anyway and hope for the best.
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    Starter problem?

    Great idea on the kill switch to disable for set up and to activate when ready to press the remote starter. As far as rebuilding the starter I am not sure if the starter itself is even the problem, maybe it’s the ignition. Plus I am not sure of anyone else competent to work on the car (not me on this issue, like Clint says a mans got to know his limitations).
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    Starter problem?

    Thanks, I may try the remote switch idea and found this one in the link from Amazon seems to have good clips. Seems I need to hook it up and have the key in the on position too (and in neutral of course haha). I hope it doesn’t harm anything else electrical in doing so. And if successful I could at least drive it to Newport Lambo for further testing to be sure it’s the starter before I lay out over $1,800 just for the part alone which has to be special ordered (not in stock). Or maybe it’s the ignition, or something else. Looking closer at the solenoid I thought that white substance on the red wire screw may be lock tight but hard to tell, maybe a little corrosion. But I know I couldn’t turn that screw tighter which made me think lock tight. I wanted to clip on the red wire prong alone instead of the screw but got zapped trying that so I gave up. If I get in there again I may see if I can slip in a strip of double electrical tape between those 2 connections or maybe wedge in a lollipop stick from the wife. https://www.amazon.com/Performance-Tool-W80586-Remote-Starter/dp/B00OPVYHZ4
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    Starter problem?

    Below is what I found, all tests with the kill switch on in the engine bay. When trying to test the red wire I accidently hit the test clip against the silver bolt and almost crapped my pants. Those two are so close, hard to get a grip on the screw/red wire alone. It seems that connection of red wire & silver bolt ignited the solenoid with the loud click. But I was eventually able to clip on to the red wire screw head alone to get back in the car and turn the key. Starter area Car key off Turn key to start Black bolt 0 .26 Silver bolt 12.74 11.20 Red wire 0 .55
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    Starter problem?

    Ok I have some wire clips and will see if I can clip some extensions here (photo) and to ground, then turn the key to start & check voltage. So I should be about 12.6 when I attempt to start? (Pretty much same as the bolt I measured on the solinoid?).
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    Starter problem?

    Thanks. I could always jack it up tomorrow and run a jumper to the starter and attempt to start and read the voltage. Where would I attach it on the starter? Would it be the bolt above the one I tested (the one with the cable that looks like it goes from the solinoid to the starter?) I tested at the battery before and when I turn the key to start, the voltage at the battery goes to about 11.4 and then rebounds back to about 12.6. Same thing shows on the dash. I recall that was typical when the car was starting in the past.
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    Starter problem?

    12.66 volts here with key off.