smogging a tt?

Just thought I throw this out there. Any problems with smog for the 1000 hp TTs?

I wonder too...

 

Just thought I throw this out there. Any problems with smog for the 1000 hp TTs?

 

"legally" you can't. .

Depends on your state. In GA I know of a guy that will pass the car without even seeing it, for a fee.

 

If not just get some

 

Depends on your state. In GA I know of a guy that will pass the car without even seeing it, for a fee.

 

If not just get some

 

Isnt there some issue for having a California or florida or GA etc etc licence and a Montana plate on your car? I thought that that rasies flags.

as sprite said depends on state. some parts of VA are emissions exempt

I know Cali is pretty strict. I've yet to be pulled over for Montana plates in GA, but even if I do I'm not a GA resident. Check your local laws.

I was under the impression that with OBDII vehicles as long as you don't throw any SES codes you're good.

> I was under the impression that with OBDII vehicles as long as you don't throw any SES codes you're good.

 

Yes, OBDII lets the smog station's computer see if your car

has any smog-related error codes stored... but it also lets it

see live data (e.g. during a brief dyno run), and whether or

not your car is running factory or modified firmware.

 

Here in CA we get a visual inspection (which a TT setup will

fail, since it's not CARB-certified), OBDII hookup (fail again,

since the firmware won't be original), and a dyno run (which

you'll be exempt from if the car is AWD, since they were not

gonna force every station to have an AWD dyno).

 

So would a 1000 hp TT car pass w.r.t. the various numbers?

Without cats... I don't know. If it had cats, then sure, it could

be done -- after all, the Veyron passes CA emissions.

> I was under the impression that with OBDII vehicles as long as you don't throw any SES codes you're good.

 

Yes, OBDII lets the smog station's computer see if your car

has any smog-related error codes stored... but it also lets it

see live data (e.g. during a brief dyno run), and whether or

not your car is running factory or modified firmware.

 

Here in CA we get a visual inspection (which a TT setup will

fail, since it's not CARB-certified), OBDII hookup (fail again,

since the firmware won't be original), and a dyno run (which

you'll be exempt from if the car is AWD, since they were not

gonna force every station to have an AWD dyno).

 

So would a 1000 hp TT car pass w.r.t. the various numbers?

Without cats... I don't know. If it had cats, then sure, it could

be done -- after all, the Veyron passes CA emissions.

 

Without cats they will never pass the sniffer, but with cats they could be made to pass very easily. It's the "modification from stock without CARB OE#" that will nail you.

 

Honestly it's a $$$ thing, if someone would go through the expense you could get a system approved and it would be labeled with a CARB number, so everything would be golden from the visual. It's a $15k or so process from what I recall.

 

In Cali it can be done but it takes know how and $. Ask G-force.

 

One way to do it is to register the car in Cali and then mod it. Then if when you get the Tt system on and get a catted system you can pass biannual emissions. The risk though is if a cop looks under the bonnet and finds the mods. Black piping may help hide that.

All of our TT cars pass in CA.

All of our TT cars pass in CA.

 

Are the tt systems carb certified?

All of our TT cars pass in CA.

 

Really, you have a CARB OE number?

 

I assume this is with cats installed.

There's no way this is CARB approved, unfortunately. Hell there are dinky little turbo kits for S2000s that aren't "legal" in CA

Really, you have a CARB OE number?

No - I think you need to do air quotes around the "pass" part.

> All of our TT cars pass in CA.

 

So you have a setup with cats and CARB-approved components now?

 

If so, then I'm all ears.

> All of our TT cars pass in CA.

 

So you have a setup with cats and CARB-approved components now?

 

If so, then I'm all ears.

 

They passed and we use cats.

They passed and we use cats.

 

They pass SMOG, but are they CARB approved?

No way. I know hundreds of turbo kits on different cars that pass a sniffer, but they will fail inspection everytime. CA resources board is a bitch

i am also interested in knowing how because this is something i plan on getting in the future. im from california and bought my TT viper from florida last year. i had to take it to AAA to get it inspected, good thing they dont know jack about cars, then i had to get it smogged. The car had an AEM so that right there would fail the car. Pretty much anything that isnt stock would fail the visual inspection too unless you pay the guy like i did.

 

im guessing the pipes can be made black to look factory to pass the visual (but that would be limited to the techs knowledge of lambos), the cats would pass the sniffer but what engine management would be used thats CA compliant?

 

CA. is doing away with the sniffer test:

 

AB 2289 - New Smog Check Law

 

 

Set to begin January 01, 2013; Model year 2000 and newer vehicles will no longer require the tailpipe emissions test portion of the smog check process. AB 2289 will require late model vehicles be administered the smog check's visual and functional tests only.

 

The implementation of AB 2289 is expected to reduce the time and cost of the smog check. The program will now take better advantage of a vehicle's OBD II technology by eliminating tailpipe testing and instead using the vehicle's own OBD II emissions monitoring system.

 

This new smog test system is already in place in 22 other states. "This new and improved program will have the same result as taking 800,000 old cars off the road, also resulting in a more cost effective program for California motorists." said ARB Chairman, Mary D. Nichols.

 

Currently California's smog check procedure requires all vehicles undergo a tailpipe emissions inspection to measure harmful pollutant output from the tailpipe, a visual inspection for present and properly installed emissions components, a functional test to insure the proper operation of various emission components; and as part of the functional test, an OBD II computer diagnostic check.

 

Under AB 2289, the tailpipe emissions portion of the smog inspection will be eliminated for 2000 model and newer cars, trucks, vans, and SUVs.

Background on the OBD II system - All vehicles imported into the United States as of 1996 have had to be equipped with an On Board Diagnostics system referred to as OBD II. The OBD II diagnostic system is designed to monitor all aspects of your engine's emission conditions and report this information to a central database within it's computer. This information is processed and checked against the computers pre-determined values for various input levels and performance patterns.

 

If any problems are found, the computer will determine whether to alert the driver or not. If a decision has been made to alert the driver of an emissions problem, the "Check Engine" or "Engine Malfunction" light will illuminate on the vehicle's dashboard. In more serious emission conditions the computer may even begin to rapidly flash the "Check Engine/Malfunction" light indicating to the driver, that the vehicle needs immediate diagnosis/repair attention.

AB 2289 now requires the smog test inspection to rely on data from a vehicle's own on board emissions computer to determine the vehicle's harmful emissions production as opposed to using a smog machine to sample the vehicle's emissions output from the tailpipe. This design is expected to reduce the cost of equipment at the smog station, reduce the amount of time it takes to smog check a vehicle, and reduce the cost of the smog inspection to the consumer.

 

 

AB 2289 - Makes changes to the following smog inspection procedures and guidelines:

A. Authorize the use of On Board Diagnostic II testing to expedite the process.

 

B. Vehicles known to release large amounts of pollution must test at stations with the highest performance ratings.

 

C. Stricter fines structure for improper inspections.

 

D. Permit the state to contract with the private sector to manage franchise-like networks of independently owned Smog Check stations.

E. Encourage community colleges and other training institutions to develop technician-training programs.

CA. is doing away with the sniffer test:

 

AB 2289 - New Smog Check Law

 

So basically a 20 dollar obd2 reader/code eraser and you're good to go!

 

but for modified cars the visual inspection is still in play.

I thought the easiest way was to "know someone"?

I thought the easiest way was to "know someone"?

 

This is what I always have done