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This has been a big problem in my life and I was reluctant to bring it up on here. If anyone has any advice (professional or non), I would greatly appreciate it. This problem has prevented me from doing things I'd like to do - running, staying in shape, going on long walks on vacation, etc.

 

Long story short: I had my left foot ran over by a car in 2008 while directing traffic. Was covered under insurance at this time and got all the check outs - no broken bones, everything seemed okay. I did physical therapy and tried but just couldn't wear the boot over my foot (I was stupid). I settled with the driver's insurance company (didn't see any long-term damage ever happening) and was even running quite consistently with NO problems. Lost weight, felt great, and everything was ducky.

 

Fast-forward to around 2011 - I can't recall exactly when it started but I noticed throbbing pain in my foot that just wasn't there. The pain was in my arch and the ball of my foot. It wasn't everyday, and I couldn't tell when it would happen - but it came and went and created enough of a problem to go see my foot doctor (again). MRI done - showing muscle loss and basically (I'm a laymen with medical terms) inflammation of the bone that is causing a difference in how I walk and also creating stability issues (can't stand on the left leg as steadily as the right). Was told to wrap it - that SUCKED. Went to Europe, did a SHIT ton of walking (couldn't postpone this) and the pain was there but largely ignored by the sights and sounds.

 

Now the pain is there everyday and I am largely unable to run or go to say, Chicago with the girlfriend without large complaints of foot pain while walking. The pain is interesting though, instead of the muscle pain - it now feels very similar to my hands after long amounts of typing, dicking with my iPhone, or wasting hours on video games (with a controller). Again, the pain is under the toes and in the ball of my foot - where it used to be mostly just in the arch and ball.

 

Thoughts? I bought new Asics (this usually seems to mitigate the problem) and am considering going back to my PT lady and working out a cash system. I am not on healthcare, this was a prexisting condition, but I got cleared by my doctor (thinking I would sign up for NEW healthcare before ObamaCare went into effect - I haven't).

 

I just want this pain to be over and be back on my feet running. And to think, I used to fcuking HATE running - now I actually miss it.

 

 

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See a podiatrist or orthopedic surgeon. It could be nerve issues secondary to impingement secondary to scarring or inadequate blood flow.

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Forgot to mention I had an insert brace made (while under insurance) and it did not seem effective. The ortho surgeon I saw wanted me in this to get pressure off the front of my foot but I stopped seeing her after this thing seemed to make it worse (and my insurance expired). She didn't want me into physical therapy yet. Again, trying my damndest to avoid expensive medical visits, but if I can fix this problem for a couple grand - I'll do it. It's that big of a problem.

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Hard to make the diagnosis on here. Go see an orthopedic surgeon who is sub specialty trained in foot and ankle surgery. Could be simpler than you think.

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Here is my opinion....and its just that....

 

You could have RSDS. I hope not. I think it may be hard to diagnose, and can be debilitating. I know someone who killed themselves from it. Started as dropping something on his foot, led to chronic pain, led to horrible pain, and eventually discoloration of the skin and it became so sensitive that they couldnt let water run down it.

 

What I would try:

 

Get a prednisone shot, and cut all coffee and gluten products from your diet. I know it sounds strange. But this happened to me and the results were unbelievable. Learning how to avoid wheat, barley, and rye is tough, especially if you like beer.

 

I have horses. It has been well known since the beginning of time that too much grain will kill a horse. On a daily basis, if our 1500 pound horses have more than 2 scoops of WHOLE grain, they become INFLAMMATORY. This is specifically bad in the LEGS and FEET. It takes some time. However, it will literally cripple them. In fact, if a horse founders, their hoof will change forever. What affect do you suppose REFINED grains have on a 200 pound human?

 

Horses also get inflammatory guts if they have too much grain. I was feeding our sheep 2 handfuls of grain per day. After about 2 weeks of this, the pH dropped enough in their gut to cause acidosis and bloat. This killed off the microflora and the lining of the gut got irritated. It is very hard to get them out of this without them dying. In fact, the gut swells so bad that it can push on the lungs and they cant breathe. If this happens, they only way to keep them alive is by aspirating their gut with a needle.

 

Anyway....Im not saying that your problem is a gluten problem, but it may contribute to the drive of an inflammatory problem. I have tested my blood 3 times in the past 4 years. NOTHING AT ALL was abnormal. Nothing indicating gout. Nothing for RA or lupus. No infections. NOTHING. BUT.....I tested my CRP and it is constantly WAY over the limit. I believe my diet has pushed this, so I am avoiding anything that has been linked to pushing the inflammatory process.

 

I heard a figure that somewhere around 60% of people that have heart attacks dont have high cholesterol. Makes you wonder what causes inflammatory conditions in the blood (smoking is obvious). I would recommend that anyone who has heart disease in their family loo into this.

 

 

 

 

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Sounds like Plantar Fasciitis. Google it and try some stretching and other remedies before seeing a Dr.

X2.

 

After I started incorporation doing more performance training (plyometrics and sprints) I started to develop plantar faciitis. The pain started in my arch and started to spread similarly to how you are describing your pain. At first it was intermittent, then every morning I would get out of bed and walk like my feet got smashed by something very heavy. I would also get pain while loading my leg and plantarflexing at the same time.

 

This is what I did: I would roll the bottom of my foot with a cold metal dumbbell that I had lying around, a frozen water bottle works too. I would also roll my calves (gastroc, soleus, and peroneals) with a myofascial release stick. After rolling my calves, I would stretch them, I would do a gastroc strtech and a soleus stretch. After stretching, I would strengthen my tibialis anterior because it is the opposing muscle (does dorsiflexion). I would also integrate dorsiflexion (and inversion/supination) in to as many exercises as I could at the gym (or at home) such as glute bridges, bird dogs, single leg deadlifts... so basically anywhere where that leg wasn't loaded so I would not lose stability.

 

How would you classify the arch of your foot? Flat? High? or normal? Normally, people with flatter feet will tend to experience more issues with plantar faciitis.

 

Feel free to PM me directly if you have any more questions. I will gladly go into more detail for you if you need it.

 

*I just saw Jpegs post, but after seeing it, I forgot to add that I agree that orthotics can be a great idea, especially if you are going to be walking around for a long time. When you are in the gym though, I would suggest either getting a minimal shoe or just wearing socks to help you work on the imbalances in your foot.

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Try doing foot stretches. Here're three that might help:

 

-- Rotate your feet in circles, keeping the heel stationary. Go in one direction for a minute or two, then the other.

 

-- Curl your toes inward, towards the sole of your foot, as far as you can. Hold, then release. Then, curl your toes upward, away from the floor, as far as you can. Hold, then release. Then repeat the whole thing as many times as you'd like.

 

-- Stretch your toes as wide as you can, and try to focus on wriggling your little toe.

 

 

These are all very simple exercises you can do whenever you're sitting down, and you can do as much as you'd like. You should start feeling results after a week of regularly performing them.

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I know someone who killed themselves from it.

 

 

Yikes. He was probably just hoping someone was going to tell him to spray some Tinactin or some of that magically soccer spray that the soccer players use to fix their horrific lower body injuries on the field.....the above seems a tad extreme.

 

 

PS: Capt - by "soccer" I mean "football".

PPS: Everyone - by "horrific lower body injuries" I mean "complete fabrication of any contact whatsoever but still doing their best Lee Harvey Oswald shot facial expression while rolling around holding one of their knees.

 

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Thanks everyone for the input. Again, I didn't have any foot pain for awhile after getting run over - and the physical therapy really seemed to help. Running and NOT doing stretches was probably the point where things went to shit. I hope it's not some horrible "WebMD spiral search" type of problem where the only solution IS something out of a SAW movie...

 

Hard to make the diagnosis on here. Go see an orthopedic surgeon who is sub specialty trained in foot and ankle surgery. Could be simpler than you think.

 

I hope so. I'm going to stick with the original doctor who I saw after it happened.

 

What kind of flooring do you have in your home? Bedroom?

 

Was hardwood all around. Now carpet (recently moved). I usually wear socks around the house.

 

Watch Saw and you'll have an answer.

 

 

Yeah, you're going to need to see a specialist

 

:thefinger:

 

Try orthotics. You can buy a pre made set here.

http://www.orthoticshop.com/orthaheel-orth...CFUjNOgodTzYAHQ

 

Oh and 1 more question. Do you have flat feet?

 

I do have flat feet, or at least that's what I've always been told. I tried some off-the-shelf orthotics from my running store but they kinda sucked. I'll check out your link! The ones you get from the doctor I heard were DAMN expensive.

 

X2.

 

After I started incorporation doing more performance training (plyometrics and sprints) I started to develop plantar faciitis. The pain started in my arch and started to spread similarly to how you are describing your pain. At first it was intermittent, then every morning I would get out of bed and walk like my feet got smashed by something very heavy. I would also get pain while loading my leg and plantarflexing at the same time.

 

This is what I did: I would roll the bottom of my foot with a cold metal dumbbell that I had lying around, a frozen water bottle works too. I would also roll my calves (gastroc, soleus, and peroneals) with a myofascial release stick. After rolling my calves, I would stretch them, I would do a gastroc strtech and a soleus stretch. After stretching, I would strengthen my tibialis anterior because it is the opposing muscle (does dorsiflexion). I would also integrate dorsiflexion (and inversion/supination) in to as many exercises as I could at the gym (or at home) such as glute bridges, bird dogs, single leg deadlifts... so basically anywhere where that leg wasn't loaded so I would not lose stability.

 

How would you classify the arch of your foot? Flat? High? or normal? Normally, people with flatter feet will tend to experience more issues with plantar faciitis.

 

Feel free to PM me directly if you have any more questions. I will gladly go into more detail for you if you need it.

 

*I just saw Jpegs post, but after seeing it, I forgot to add that I agree that orthotics can be a great idea, especially if you are going to be walking around for a long time. When you are in the gym though, I would suggest either getting a minimal shoe or just wearing socks to help you work on the imbalances in your foot.

 

I hope that isn't the case. I googled the problem and it talks a lot about heel pain - which I have none of. The pain was in the arch but is not mostly in the toes and the ball of my foot. And ya, the pain seems to be random as hell. Sometimes bad, sometimes just minor. Other times (often after walking a lot) it can be bad enough I get visibly angry (gf has noticed this a few times).

 

I just ordered these bad boys and have always worn Asics (like the trail shoes for daily wear): http://www.zappos.com/asics-gt-2000-trail-black-orange-lime

 

I have a few friends who have minimalist shoes (those creepy toe things?) and swear by them. Some say for running it's what they prefer. But it offers ZERO support, so..... ?

 

Try doing foot stretches. Here're three that might help:

 

-- Rotate your feet in circles, keeping the heel stationary. Go in one direction for a minute or two, then the other.

 

-- Curl your toes inward, towards the sole of your foot, as far as you can. Hold, then release. Then, curl your toes upward, away from the floor, as far as you can. Hold, then release. Then repeat the whole thing as many times as you'd like.

 

-- Stretch your toes as wide as you can, and try to focus on wriggling your little toe.

 

 

These are all very simple exercises you can do whenever you're sitting down, and you can do as much as you'd like. You should start feeling results after a week of regularly performing them.

 

Excellent, thank you!

 

Remove the foot and replace it with a wheel. Make sure you get run flats.

 

Wheels are for pussies. I'd go full-on RoboCop.

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Have you gone to a specialty running store and had them find shoes that match how you run and your flat feet? I run quite a bit too and I always wear Asics, but different models of their shoes are for different arch types and if I get the wrong shoes I have almost crippling pain in my feet, legs and back.

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Thanks everyone for the input. Again, I didn't have any foot pain for awhile after getting run over

 

 

 

If you didn't have any foot pain for a while after getting run over then just get run over again. Worth a try anyways.

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Was hardwood all around. Now carpet (recently moved). I usually wear socks around the house.

That's what I was going to suggest. I had similar pain for years in Hollywood (hardwood). Went away when I moved to OC. (Carpet and ceramic tile). Came back when I got here (hardwood). Put down a heavy carpet pad and rug in the bedroom and it went away.

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That's what I was going to suggest. I had similar pain for years in Hollywood (hardwood). Went away when I moved to OC. (Carpet and ceramic tile). Came back when I got here (hardwood). Put down a heavy carpet pad and rug in the bedroom and it went away.

 

Being overweight certainly doesn't help my cause. And like I said - used to loathe running but got to the point of actually enjoying it. Then my foot just started KILLING me and I stopped running. Doesn't seem humans are supposed to be hitting hard surfaces like concrete on a daily basis. Or getting their feet run over, for that matter.

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Being overweight certainly doesn't help my cause. And like I said - used to loathe running but got to the point of actually enjoying it. Then my foot just started KILLING me and I stopped running. Doesn't seem humans are supposed to be hitting hard surfaces like concrete on a daily basis. Or getting their feet run over, for that matter.

 

 

Did not know you were overweight.

 

 

Certainly lose weight. It makes a huge difference. try doing boner's gluetin stopping diet.

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Did not know you were overweight.

 

 

Certainly lose weight. It makes a huge difference. try doing boner's gluetin stopping diet.

 

It's certainly been a problem for me. But I guess I forget how much 40 pounds difference makes on a foot that already has some pain. I try and imagine lifting a 40 pound weight and go "fcuk me, that isn't a small amount." Must be hell on my feet.

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Well..... I've been having foot issues for about 2 years now. Morton's Neuroma and a cyst on my right foot. I've been getting corticosteroid and cryo treatments for it. Unfortunately, they really don't work.

I'm scheduled for surgery on December 11th. UGH!!!!!

3 weeks no driving

3-4 months no golf

 

 

man I hope this works

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Well..... I've been having foot issues for about 2 years now. Morton's Neuroma and a cyst on my right foot. I've been getting corticosteroid and cryo treatments for it. Unfortunately, they really don't work.

I'm scheduled for surgery on December 11th. UGH!!!!!

3 weeks no driving

3-4 months no golf

 

 

man I hope this works

 

Good luck man! I'm sure you can relate to how much it sucks not being able to do things you used to enjoy.

 

An update: I called both my previous ortho surgeons and they both were fully booked until 2014, with one not even taking patients right now who are self-pay. I did call my old physical therapist's office and they CAN take people without a referral - and will do it for about $100/visit (scheduled for Dec. 17). I'm very happy and I hope with some of the exercises I found on this thread along with the PT, I'll be up and running in no time - no saws or peg legs needed.

 

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