1985 Downdraft Countach QV For Sale

I don't know about the price. Maybe they've gone up since I bought mine, but here is a 1985 Downdraft QV for sale.

 

http://www.chooseyouritem.com/exotics/file...5500/95950.html

Why do they say it's an LP400??

I know that car. Its nice. He thinks its worth more than what it really is.

He is on crack

135??? Pure Nuts...

Get a PPI, if checks out to your satisfaction you deciede what your willing to pay and make an offer. If the guy doesn't sell it for $135K he will call back the best, serious offer. There's not a lot of legal Downdraft QV's in the country. If you want one you have to take a shot at it when you can....They are great to drive.

you could always sell the rear bumper to a kit bulider to make the perfect replica :axe:

Get a PPI, if checks out to your satisfaction you deciede what your willing to pay and make an offer.  If the guy doesn't sell it for $135K he will call back the best, serious offer.  There's not a lot of legal Downdraft QV's in the country.  If you want one you have to take a shot at it when you can....They are great to drive.

 

Way overpriced. Not worth even an offer. The guy is dreaming and looking for a sucker IMO!

That car was listed last year at the same price. I talked to the guy then, out of curiousity, and he really doesn't want to sell it. Plus he thinks they will really go up in price to the point where 135 will be the norm. He knows it will be a while for the prices to go that high, but like John said, he also knows there are not many downdrafts in the U.S. :?:

Plus he thinks they will really go up in price to the point where 135 will be the norm.

 

He may not be far off. Lately the F.I. Anniversity cars are going for over $100,000, and they are not nearly as rare or desirable as the downdrafts. Last year I saw two Downdraft QV's for sale. One was listed at $119,000, the other one was listed in the $120's. Another factor is that the downdraft cars don't always make it onto the open market, it seems a lot of them change hands like mine did. I knew the guy who owned it and asked for the right of first refusal if he ever sold it. A couple of months later he called and it was mine.

 

Way overpriced. Not worth even an offer.  

 

Why not? Has it ever hurt to make an offer? What if the offer was for $100,000 and two months from now he called and accepted. When I sold my LP400S I knew my asking price was way ahead of the market, but I was in no hurry to sell. I just wanted to be ready in case a downdraft came my way. I received many offers, but again I didn't need to sell so I kept their info and told them I would keep in touch. When the Downdraft QV was offered to me I went and accepted much less than what I was asking, but the guy put in a fair bid and I now had a reason to sell.

An FI (non anniversary car) with euro engine guts just went for over 100k - close to $110.

 

As John said, many ( if not most) downdraft transactions probably never see the light of day. Probably aren't more than 30 or so in the country, and even in Europe you just don't see them for sale in nearly the same numbers that you used to.

 

I don't think $135k is too far off myself (which only pains me, as mine won't ever be sold anyway).

In the U.S. a good downdraft car brings over six figures.

 

 

In my opinion the bargain is the LP400 early "clean" body. Forget pulling performance. However the LP 400 is RARE !!!!!!! The LP 400 has good potential to go up in price.

 

The downdraft car will more than likely stay a few steps ahead of the F.I. cars. The downdraft car is a specialists car. Only a Countach nut will pay the extra premium. The LP 400 has the appeal of being rare and beautiful. The downdraft car is also rare in the USA.

Nobody seems to know for sure about the numbers. The lowest number I've heard is twelve, the highest number for downdrafts I've heard is 25...............Anybody know of any other numbers? First question I asked the guy was, "is it a genuine downdraft, or a converted f.i. car?". He said he had the paperwork from when it was imported showing it was a carbed model. I also think they will hold very high market value sooner than not....get yours now while they're Cheap!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mrgreen:

In the U.S. a good downdraft car brings over six figures.

 

 

In my opinion the bargain is the LP400 early "clean" body.   Forget pulling performance.   However the LP 400 is RARE !!!!!!!     The LP 400 has good potential to go up in price.

 

The downdraft car will more than likely stay a few steps ahead of the F.I. cars.   The downdraft car is a specialists car.    Only a Countach nut will pay the extra premium.   The LP 400 has the appeal of being rare and beautiful.    The downdraft car is also rare in the USA.

 

I agree... I specifically WANT an FI... First I doubt the Carbs would pass California Emissions, and I dont want to deal with tuning half a dozen carbs every 15 minutes...

 

Having said that, based on what Ive seen in my shopping I would say base price is 80K for a clean CT... Add 10K for the 400 and another 10K for the carbs... 100K-

Another downdraft just popped up................asking $149,000. www.pro-auto.com

The Lamborghini Registry has that car, chassis number gla12902, listed as a Black/Tan injected model with gold wheels from New Jersey. (no picture) If correct this car is a converted downdraft.

 

I dont want to deal with tuning half a dozen carbs every 15 minutes...  

 

Romandad, I can understand the emissions keeping you away, but as far as the carbs go, most of what you've heard is a myth. As long as you drive the car regularly, a well tuned carbed car will give you no problems. Besides a well tuned carbed car will blow the doors off of a F.I. U.S. car. You can never have enough power.

 

P.S. How's the search going?

Another downdraft just popped up................asking $149,000.   www.pro-auto.com

 

This is the same guy that just sold the black lp400s for somewhere in the 60's.

Agreed with John -

 

 

The carbs are reliable, once the carbs are set correctly, and the car is driven regularly.

The Lamborghini Registry has that car, chassis number gla12902, listed as a Black/Tan injected model with gold wheels from New Jersey.  (no picture)  If correct this car is a converted downdraft.

 

I dont want to deal with tuning half a dozen carbs every 15 minutes...  

 

Romandad, I can understand the emissions keeping you away...

 

P.S. How's the search going?

 

Does anybody know of ANY carbed cars registered in CA??? My guess is it would be next to impossible... God Damned Tree Huggers....

 

The car I want just hasn't been offered for sale... ANYWHERE... I spend about 2 hours a week looking myself, and Abol has had me very excited TWICE now on cars that have turned out not to be for sale (not an insult... I really appreciate the extra set of eyes... And talking with him has really helped me focus on the EXACT car I want.... Which I wasnt sure about before joining L-P...)

 

Its cool though... Im in no HUGE hurry... If I buy one before my wife and I move to a new house, I'll have the added dilema of finding someplace to park it, or break down and build it a new garage (which Id really rather not do)... But she and I agree... When the PERFECT car goes up for sale, whether we have an immediate home for it or not, I pretty much have to pounce on it or lose it forever...

Does anybody know of ANY carbed cars registered in CA???  

 

My car was once owned by a gentleman named Michael Fuschi. He had the car registered in California with the license plate "LOUDV12". (see picture)

 

From Lambocars.com

here in europe downdafts are not so rare and you still can have it for 65000

euro,

i was thinkin about buynig a 88,5 for 65000 euro before found my car

the strange thing is that you must pay at least 75000 euro for a 25 th , that is also carb but is 3 times less beautiful :roll:

i think things are changing and soon the 25th will fall down while others are

becoming more interesting and prices will go up quickly

that is good for me and my L.B. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

In the U.S. a good downdraft car brings over six figures.

 

 

In my opinion the bargain is the LP400 early "clean" body.   Forget pulling performance.   However the LP 400 is RARE !!!!!!!     The LP 400 has good potential to go up in price.

 

The downdraft car will more than likely stay a few steps ahead of the F.I. cars.   The downdraft car is a specialists car.    Only a Countach nut will pay the extra premium.   The LP 400 has the appeal of being rare and beautiful.    The downdraft car is also rare in the USA.

lp 400 is already over 100000 euro in europe but they can go up more

all true about downdrafts but only countach nut buy countach, so it is more easy to sell a downdraft than a injected one, even for 15000 more

The LP400, despite lower power, is no slouch at all performance wise. They are WAY lighter (I think as low as 2700 lbs). Lots of magnesium parts in there, also thinner chassis tubes and body work. Driving one is a surreal experience..... very much like my downdraft, but very, very different - very tossable and nimble. Very pure.

 

The downdraft would outrun it, but I've been in that LP400 and beat many cars you'd have thought twice about.

 

If I could ever get second Countach, it'd be an LP400.

The LP400, despite lower power, is no slouch at all performance wise.  They are WAY lighter (I think as low as 2700 lbs).  Lots of magnesium parts in there, also thinner chassis tubes and body work.  Driving one is a surreal experience..... very much like my downdraft, but very, very different - very tossable and nimble. Very pure.

 

The downdraft would outrun it, but I've been in that LP400 and beat many cars you'd have thought twice about.

 

If I could ever get second Countach, it'd be an LP400.

 

I beg to differ.I had an LP 400 for 10 years.The car sounded fantastic but it didn't go.My mechanic and I spend hours tuning the carbs and it was as good as it gets.The car is nimble and handles relatively well but the front end gets light at higher speeds and there is no way it has 375hp.

In my books the LP400 is relegated to be a museum piece

Well, this one did have a pretty heavily built up engine (higher compression pistons, carillo rods, etc....... ) I have to admit it's the only LP400 I have direct experience with. But it was definately pumping out the power....

 

Oh - in fact I think it was just dyno'd - I'll try dig up the sheets and all from my buddy who had it, but it was mid 300's at the rear wheel.

 

Definately not a lot of torque down low, but once it got rolling it was pretty strong.