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The car is 10 minutes from my house.

 

I spent about an hour going through it.

 

I need to tell them it's 420hp because it is fuel injected not 455, that would be a Downdraft QV.

 

The only thing on the car is the Euro front that was added some time after delivery is not 100% perfect in color or fit.

 

But that's easy to fix and looks a lot better than the US thing that was on there.

 

If the car was a 88 or older I would have bought it way before it ever went public.

 

I am just not a fan of the 88 1/2

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so whats the best model year to buy... other than the QV???

 

i am a fan off the 88/89.. but i do admire the older ones more and more :supz:

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tony, other than the front bumper,  clean car though?  did you test it and if so, how does it feel?

 

Super clean. Dash is original and zero shrinkage. All the stiching is perfect.

 

Did not drive it.

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I am just not a fan of the 88 1/2

 

The 88 1/2 is lambo geek/nerd territory... :lol: :lol:

 

 

 

It is o.k. to prod and bait Erik, but remember the 88.5 is Allans favorite ano :lol: .

 

 

Tony knows best ;) , the old body style rocks.

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so whats the best model year to buy... other than the QV???

 

i am a fan off the 98l99.. but i do admire the older ones more and more :supz:

 

 

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It really depends on what you want ?

 

looks - Their are significant factory variations.

performance - 85 dd Weber car

rarity - 78-79 and a very few 80 LP400S1 lowbody

availability of an unmolested 100% stock low KM car - 89 Anniv

best potential to increase in price - 75-77 LP400 clean car

 

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LP400 is also rare, and in addition the LP400S1, has good potential to increase in price.

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Just remember guys that these older cars/Countach's, with low mileage, may need $10 to $20000 in repairs. It happens more often than you may know. An owner of a 2500 mile 89 Anniversary car recently had a ppi done as he had a deal on the car. Much to his surprise the car needs almost $20,000 in repairs. The buyer walked away from that deal. This does not consider an engine out major service if the clutch is shot. That would be more money! Car may look great on the outside but don't let the appearance fool you. Insist on a PPI at a reputable Lambo dealer. One other note, parts are becoming even more difficult to come by and the cost of parts is rising. Factor in the aggravation of getting the car fixed at the dealership (more of your time used up), the inevitable delays for parts, etc, and the whole experiance could be a dissapointing one.

If you have not driven a Countach insist on a demo drive as you may decide right there that the car is not for you. It is a different kind of car and not everyone likes these cars. If you do not like the way it drives there is no need to go furthur (ppi) with the car. Last I heard Naples Motor Sport would not let you test drive the car. They will let you RIDE with their mechanic only. Something about liability. For me, if I could not drive the car first I would walk away. Your left having to buy a car based on what you think the car will be, not what it is. Many a buyer has discovered "buyer remorse" buying a car this way.

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Just remember guys that these older cars/Countach's, with low mileage, may need $10 to $20000 in repairs. It happens more often than you may know. An owner of a 2500 mile 89 Anniversary car recently had a ppi done as he had a deal on the car. Much to his surprise the car needs almost $20,000 in repairs. The buyer walked away from that deal. This does not consider an engine out major service if the clutch is shot. That would be more money! Car may look great on the outside but don't let the appearance fool you. Insist on a PPI at a reputable Lambo dealer. One other note, parts are becoming even more difficult to come by and the cost of parts is rising. Factor in the aggravation of getting the car fixed at the dealership (more of your time used up), the inevitable delays for parts, etc, and the whole experiance could be a dissapointing one.

If you have not driven a Countach insist on a demo drive as you may decide right there that the car is not for you. It is a different kind of car and not everyone likes these cars. If you do not like the way it drives there is no need to go furthur (ppi) with the car. Last I heard Naples Motor Sport would not let you test drive the car. They will let you RIDE with their mechanic only. Something about liability. For me, if I could not drive the car first I would walk away. Your left having to buy a car based on what you think the car will be, not what it is. Many a buyer has discovered "buyer remorse" buying a car this way.

 

I would second most everything you say, but I would hasten to add that you generally want to avoid most Lamborghini "dealers" like the plague when it comes to mechanical service on a Countach. You really need to have a relationship with a small "boutique" specialist shop. With such low production numbers very, very few shops have ever seen one CT let alone many, and given that there are no shop manuals and little other supporting documents for the car you can cost yourself severe headaches and money educating a shop that hasn't experienced the ins & outs of a CT.

 

 

There are exceptions - Ultimate in FL knows CT's pretty well, and I am sure there are other official Lambo dealers that have some folks familiar with them - but in general they have a couple of guys who have had factory training on the latest cars, and that's it. Oh, and lot boys who will be doing donuts in your machine killing off that $8,000 clutch.

 

Do what you can to have a known specialist do your work (Evans is my favorite, but there are several good shops) and help you with a PPI.

 

On driving it - yeah, it would be great, but I think you're going to have a hard time finding a commercial seller who will let you. I couldn't test drive mine before I bought it, I had to settle for a spirited ride with the seller.

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Just remember guys that these older cars/Countach's, with low mileage, may need $10 to $20000 in repairs. It happens more often than you may know. An owner of a 2500 mile 89 Anniversary car recently had a ppi done as he had a deal on the car. Much to his surprise the car needs almost $20,000 in repairs. The buyer walked away from that deal. This does not consider an engine out major service if the clutch is shot. That would be more money! Car may look great on the outside but don't let the appearance fool you. Insist on a PPI at a reputable Lambo dealer. One other note, parts are becoming even more difficult to come by and the cost of parts is rising. Factor in the aggravation of getting the car fixed at the dealership (more of your time used up), the inevitable delays for parts, etc, and the whole experiance could be a dissapointing one.

If you have not driven a Countach insist on a demo drive as you may decide right there that the car is not for you. It is a different kind of car and not everyone likes these cars. If you do not like the way it drives there is no need to go furthur (ppi) with the car. Last I heard Naples Motor Sport would not let you test drive the car. They will let you RIDE with their mechanic only. Something about liability. For me, if I could not drive the car first I would walk away. Your left having to buy a car based on what you think the car will be, not what it is. Many a buyer has discovered "buyer remorse" buying a car this way.

 

I would second most everything you say, but I would hasten to add that you generally want to avoid most Lamborghini "dealers" like the plague when it comes to mechanical service on a Countach. You really need to have a relationship with a small "boutique" specialist shop. With such low production numbers very, very few shops have ever seen one CT let alone many, and given that there are no shop manuals and little other supporting documents for the car you can cost yourself severe headaches and money educating a shop that hasn't experienced the ins & outs of a CT.

 

 

There are exceptions - Ultimate in FL knows CT's pretty well, and I am sure there are other official Lambo dealers that have some folks familiar with them - but in general they have a couple of guys who have had factory training on the latest cars, and that's it. Oh, and lot boys who will be doing donuts in your machine killing off that $8,000 clutch.

 

Do what you can to have a known specialist do your work (Evans is my favorite, but there are several good shops) and help you with a PPI.

 

On driving it - yeah, it would be great, but I think you're going to have a hard time finding a commercial seller who will let you. I couldn't test drive mine before I bought it, I had to settle for a spirited ride with the seller.

 

Go Mifune: My suggestion to go to a Lambo dealer for ppi implied that the dealer had the knowledge to do the work, like Ultimate Motors as you indicated. A small "boutique" operation would also work if they also had the technical expertise to do the work. Might even be cheaper as the Lambo dealerships charge anywhere from $125 to $150 or more per hour.

I know of several examples where dealers/sellers have allowed a demo ride to a serious, qualified buyer. I also know that many will not. Speaking only for myself I would never buy any car that I could not drive before buying. That has woked for me in the past and I have been rewarded with a good buying experiance.

If a buyer does not do "Due Diligence" when considering a Countach purchase he has a good chance of having a less than satisfactory experiance. Paint chips on the front bumper will be played down by the seller but, to respray the front bumber/valance and make it right will cost about $2000 or more as the bumper needs to be removed to do the job right. Again I am talking about a qualified Lambo body shop doing the work. Some owners may know someone else who can do it cheaper but, in my experiance, if you want it done right you have to be prepared to spend the money. Other body work like paint touchup, body repair work will cost. I understand that the Naples car needs some paint work on the front bumper and possibly some chips eleswhere. Just factor this in before you make that offer and consider all the consequences of buying and owning one of these cars.

Of course, if you are really lucky you might be able to find a seller who has a "gem" that has had all the work/money done and spent in it. In that case I doubt that you will find the car priced cheap. The car at Naples for $110 seems overpriced for an 88.5. If it turns out to need another $5 or $10K or more than your total investment may take some time to recoup.

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Well said by Steve

 

Just because a tech can work on a G and M car, does not equate that he will know how to work on a Countach, or even possibly worse a carb'd Countach. Notice how quite a few auth L dealers, do not carry any used Countach autos in their inventory.

 

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I do not gather much feel from test drives. It is good to see that everything works and sounds good. I just do not feel much, when test driving any car. It even takes me awhile, to feel all the atributes of an airport econobox rental.

 

When I first test drove the Countach, I felt very unsure and awkward inside. After gaining some stick time, it all began to make some sense, in the nice sweet area, where the car just begins to become fun.

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Well said by Steve

 

Just because a tech can work on a G and M car, does not equate that he will know how to work on a Countach, or even possibly worse a carb'd Countach. Notice how quite a few auth L dealers, do not carry any used Countach autos in their inventory.

 

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I do not gather much feel from test drives. It is good to see that everything works and sounds good. I just do not feel much, when test driving any car. It even takes me awhile, to feel all the atributes of an airport econobox rental.

 

When I first test drove the Countach, I felt very unsure and awkward inside. After gaining some stick time, it all began to make some sense, in the nice sweet area, where the car just begins to become fun.

 

That is why i have havent dropped off my cars at the dealers. Nothing against them, and some of them are completely okay with that acknowledging the fact they are not as experience to deal with the older cars....

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I am just not a fan of the 88 1/2

 

The 88 1/2 is lambo geek/nerd territory... :lol: :lol:

 

Call me a lambo geek....

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Don't buy it without driving it. I've bought most of my Lambos through Bobileff, and the last few cars I bought, he tossed me the keys and said have fun. He didn't even come with me on the test drive. That tells me he's got nothing to hide with the cars. If they won't even let you drive it with them in the car, don't walk away, run. As others have stated, a CT is a different beast, and they are probably all a bit different from each other. There might not be enough on the market at one time to get a good sampling, but at least drive the one you are interested in. Some will never get used to the heavy clutch and shifter, others the lack of visibility or head room. The CT is one car you definitely want to try before you buy.

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I am just not a fan of the 88 1/2

 

The 88 1/2 is lambo geek/nerd territory... :lol: :lol:

 

Call me a lambo geek....

 

 

I think you are Lambo cool, with gold chains and diamond earings :D .

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Well said by Steve

 

Just because a tech can work on a G and M car, does not equate that he will know how to work on a Countach, or even possibly worse a carb'd Countach. Notice how quite a few auth L dealers, do not carry any used Countach autos in their inventory.

 

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I do not gather much feel from test drives. It is good to see that everything works and sounds good. I just do not feel much, when test driving any car. It even takes me awhile, to feel all the atributes of an airport econobox rental.

 

When I first test drove the Countach, I felt very unsure and awkward inside. After gaining some stick time, it all began to make some sense, in the nice sweet area, where the car just begins to become fun.

 

<-stupid

 

I don't get out a ton from test drives either....even those lasting half an hour to an hour.

 

It's fun, but nothing like owning it I can imagine....

 

One day! :)

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Don't buy it without driving it. I've bought most of my Lambos through Bobileff, and the last few cars I bought, he tossed me the keys and said have fun. He didn't even come with me on the test drive. That tells me he's got nothing to hide with the cars. If they won't even let you drive it with them in the car, don't walk away, run. As others have stated, a CT is a different beast, and they are probably all a bit different from each other. There might not be enough on the market at one time to get a good sampling, but at least drive the one you are interested in. Some will never get used to the heavy clutch and shifter, others the lack of visibility or head room. The CT is one car you definitely want to try before you buy.

 

Same experience with Gary... He went out with me at the time, I never drove a ct before. And the experience wasnt bad at all... I had done alot of reading about the car to expect super heavy clutch( which was heavy but as Heavy as I thought), heavy steering... (not bad once you are moving) Visibility.... ( bearable, as the test was with a blindspot mirror... Loved it.... If gary had some other lambos for sale, I would definitley head down there.... and check it out.. The tough part is the drive...

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