q8ylambo Report post Posted November 21, 2010 I cannot wait for the release of this car. I wonder if the reason for no DI is lack of room for a big enough injector? Still has less torque than a Buick GSX stage I. Nick There’s no direct injection, though - for now, at least. “We looked at it,” Reggiani revealed, “but there are issues with back pressure [in the exhaust system] and how you manage that while still achieving maximum power. Multi-point injection is a simple solution that avoids an additional device to reduce particulates, so we’ve gone with that. But DI is something we could look at again in the future.” http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/254173/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoticCarSearch Report post Posted November 22, 2010 Both f cars are auto 7 speed. Porsche will have a manual row yourself 7 speed and a 7 speed pdk available A three pedaled 7 speed-wow! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Report post Posted November 22, 2010 There’s no direct injection, though - for now, at least. “We looked at it,” Reggiani revealed, “but there are issues with back pressure [in the exhaust system] and how you manage that while still achieving maximum power. Multi-point injection is a simple solution that avoids an additional device to reduce particulates, so we’ve gone with that. But DI is something we could look at again in the future.” Good find. Makes sense as an "LP750-SV" with DI would be a good refresh at some point a few years down the road. Leaves them with some ammo to use should Ferrari's 599-replacement be as lethal as the factory is claiming it will be... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qvpower Report post Posted November 22, 2010 A three pedaled 7 speed-wow! Thats what i read somewhere...Tell me about it... I guess there a quite the Porsche purist to warrant that I guess... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scud Report post Posted November 22, 2010 some guys from australia went to hong kong yesterday and saw the car today. no info back at this stage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qvpower Report post Posted November 22, 2010 Good find. Makes sense as an "LP750-SV" with DI would be a good refresh at some point a few years down the road. Leaves them with some ammo to use should Ferrari's 599-replacement be as lethal as the factory is claiming it will be... Again it boils down to product life. Why add di when they know that they are making enough power? Let's keep in mind this engine is the first since the 60s a brand new 12. I can't imagine not keeping this engine around for a long time... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assman Report post Posted November 22, 2010 A three pedaled 7 speed-wow! 7 speed manual=overkill on a true manual. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKBULL Report post Posted November 23, 2010 7 speed manual=overkill on a true manual. Why do you say that?? It would seem that it would allow better gear spacing no?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assman Report post Posted November 23, 2010 Why do you say that?? It would seem that it would allow better gear spacing no?? Personally anything more than 5 is getting to too many to keep shifting into manually. It's not an 18 wheeler. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoticCarSearch Report post Posted November 23, 2010 7 speed manual=overkill on a true manual. Might be good on a 1.5 liter engine! Mitsubishi had an 8 speed in 1980. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zmydust Report post Posted November 23, 2010 Might be good on a 1.5 liter engine! Mitsubishi had an 8 speed in 1980. Didn't that involve an overdrive box of some sort haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoticCarSearch Report post Posted November 23, 2010 Didn't that involve an overdrive box of some sort haha Yeah they called it the twin stick-two speed transaxle shifter right next to the 4 speed shifter. It was pretty slick, and worked good with a tiny engine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKBULL Report post Posted November 25, 2010 Personally anything more than 5 is getting to too many to keep shifting into manually. It's not an 18 wheeler. Good point!! I guess when you think about it the more gears the less the difference between each individual gear. Probably leads to excessive shifting to keep in the sweet spot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smash Boy Report post Posted November 26, 2010 Good point!! I guess when you think about it the more gears the less the difference between each individual gear. Probably leads to excessive shifting to keep in the sweet spot. There's the argument for both 6+ speeds and 3-4 speed transmissions.....closeness of ratios versus shifting too much. I think it works best to leave anything past 6 speeds to a semi-auto/auto applications. 5-6 speeds is nice for a true sports car that is expected to have good acceleration under 100 mph and still be able to reach 150+. If you just want to drag race in the quarter, particularly with American iron, then 2/3/4 speed transmissions are usually the way to go. Of course you're gonna want some big boy HP and TQ to move such a car. The 2 speed "Powerglide" transmission from the '50s is still popular. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smash Boy Report post Posted November 26, 2010 Anyone ever drive 3 on the tree? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboad Report post Posted November 26, 2010 I was invited by our local dealer to view the murcialago successor in bahrain today. After a short presentation by the regional manager i got to spend about 2 hours with the car. We had to sign nda's which strictly stated no photography, and while we didnt get our phones taken away i chose not to photograph. Out of respect and to make sure im not on the lambo blacklist, as i was sold on the car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
porter Report post Posted November 26, 2010 Merged. No photos, no new info, no new thread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assman Report post Posted November 26, 2010 Anyone ever drive 3 on the tree? I drove a 4 on the column (tree) rental minivan in Antigua. That was really interesting for me because it was RHD too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboad Report post Posted November 26, 2010 I had an invitation to see the car today. I got the chance to sit in it and rev it im telling you guys the car completely redefines the word supercar. had to sign an nda so no pics guys + dont wanna be on the lambo blacklist Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwilighT Report post Posted November 26, 2010 this curiosity is killing me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouth37 Report post Posted November 27, 2010 How has Lambo kept this thing from going public? 007apl should have leaked pictures months ago! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboad Report post Posted November 27, 2010 After a 15 min presentation by the regional manager they took us to a room and uncovered the car. I spent 2 hours looking at the car and talking with the lambo reps, so this is how im gonna sum it up; Exterior : She sat there in pearl white with black rims. The car has strong lambo dna. That menacing look is still there, yet it is somehow more sophisticated. Its looks a lot like a reventon, but believe it or not a sexier more elegant version. Very sharp lines along the front fender running all the way across the doors and back , and HUGE air intakes on the sides. kind of like the audi r8s but way sexier. Doors open up like the murc's but at an angle this time. The front looks beautiful with air diffusers that resemble the lp570 sl's and gorgeous looking headlights. The air cooling ducts open up when the engine gets hot similar to the murc's but open up from another direction. The rear off the car looked like a cross between a reventon and the four door estoque concept. There is a rear spoiler that deploys at a certain speed and glass panels over the engine bay. Interior : Wow, big step up from anything lambo or even audi i have ever seen. This is quality stuff, i could go on blabbing about the quality of the leather and how good it smells etc, but i found pictures which are about 80-90% close to what i saw. The estoque concept. Same steering wheel, same seats and the same center console but with a different button layout. The door handles are different to accommodate the scissor action. The interior i saw was black and it looked sick! tft screen for the dashboard that replaces the gauges. The driver and passenger are separated via a high sitting centre console. Very focused drivers seat which feels like a fighter jet cockpit. The starter button is a very nice detail. The button is covered with a red cover which you have to flick open before you fire away the engine! And boy does it fire up with an explosion. Sound : The car has 3 modes, and the sound seems to change with the modes selected. It sounds exotic when revved, but not as loud as i was expecting. Something tells me from the way the engine barks at startup that it is going to sound sick wide open on the road. Engineering: Very exotic suspension layout, with rear dampeners horizontally mounted like an f1 car. All the bodywork on the car is aerodynamically functional. Carbon fiber monocoque saves weight and provides far more rigidity than metal for handling. While talking with the reps they stated that there is a new orange color coming out and that is more "alive" than the current orange. They also stated that what i saw is going to be exactly what the production unit is going to look like. The current name is the lp-700-4 and the model name is going to be unveiled with the car in march. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoomboy Report post Posted November 27, 2010 how about a photochop of the new lambo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawr Report post Posted November 27, 2010 After a 15 min presentation by the regional manager they took us to a room and uncovered the car. I spent 2 hours looking at the car and talking with the lambo reps, so this is how im gonna sum it up; Exterior : She sat there in pearl white with black rims. The car has strong lambo dna. That menacing look is still there, yet it is somehow more sophisticated. Its looks a lot like a reventon, but believe it or not a sexier more elegant version. Very sharp lines along the front fender running all the way across the doors and back , and HUGE air intakes on the sides. kind of like the audi r8s but way sexier. Doors open up like the murc's but at an angle this time. The front looks beautiful with air diffusers that resemble the lp570 sl's and gorgeous looking headlights. The air cooling ducts open up when the engine gets hot similar to the murc's but open up from another direction. The rear off the car looked like a cross between a reventon and the four door estoque concept. There is a rear spoiler that deploys at a certain speed and glass panels over the engine bay. Interior : Wow, big step up from anything lambo or even audi i have ever seen. This is quality stuff, i could go on blabbing about the quality of the leather and how good it smells etc, but i found pictures which are about 80-90% close to what i saw. The estoque concept. Same steering wheel, same seats and the same center console but with a different button layout. The door handles are different to accommodate the scissor action. The interior i saw was black and it looked sick! tft screen for the dashboard that replaces the gauges. The driver and passenger are separated via a high sitting centre console. Very focused drivers seat which feels like a fighter jet cockpit. The starter button is a very nice detail. The button is covered with a red cover which you have to flick open before you fire away the engine! And boy does it fire up with an explosion. Sound : The car has 3 modes, and the sound seems to change with the modes selected. It sounds exotic when revved, but not as loud as i was expecting. Something tells me from the way the engine barks at startup that it is going to sound sick wide open on the road. Engineering: Very exotic suspension layout, with rear dampeners horizontally mounted like an f1 car. All the bodywork on the car is aerodynamically functional. Carbon fiber monocoque saves weight and provides far more rigidity than metal for handling. While talking with the reps they stated that there is a new orange color coming out and that is more "alive" than the current orange. They also stated that what i saw is going to be exactly what the production unit is going to look like. The current name is the lp-700-4 and the model name is going to be unveiled with the car in march. finally something!! thank you! I was about to give up on this thread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob Burgundy Report post Posted November 27, 2010 GREAT DETAILS TURBOAD! Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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