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The mileage you describe is not within the range that I would expect to add a "mileage premium," although it is still pretty good for a car of that year. Under 4k miles would add a premium of about $10-12k. Based upon what I've seen (which may not match what others will say), I would estimate the selling price between $120k and $135k, depending upon condition, maintenance book, and how recently major maintenance has been performed. Those numbers are somewhat generous, and the assumption is that you are looking for a really nice vehicle with no issues. Be advised that flawless OEM cars, especially early base Murcis, are almost nonexistent any longer, or at least never come to market. Cars with issues would be less, of course.

This one (VIN ZHWBU8AHXALA03837) only has 300 miles: https://www.lemonfree.com/car/Lamborghini-M...WBU8AHXALA03837

Thank you for the update on this car...so glad to hear it worked out so well for you! I was scared away by comments from others about the seller, and potential undercarriage damage from possible forklift carries. Happy to hear you investigated and found a real gem...at an unbelievable price!

A black 3-pedal LP640...forget the options, but was a rebuilt salvage from an engine fire in otherwise excellent shape...sold for ~$150K earlier this year.

It might take someone with a bit of skill in retrofitting, but there are plenty of parts options from similar console/roof doors and pop-up cup holders (that sort of thing) from Honda, Toyota, and other car manufacturers. Instead of paying a c-note to buy a replacement part from Lambo that's destined to fail again, these other latch catches can last for 20 years or more. Just a thought...

The link says 4,944km. Hope it's not 49,440!! I watched a video of him driving the car in the winter with his ski equipment strapped to the top. Car may possibly have been abused, although with so few miles, perhaps it's not catastrophic.

One of the higher markups for options that I didn't see mentioned above is for the models with the carbon ceramic brakes upgrade. The better-equipped cars with those brakes are in the higher price range. Every time I evaluate available cars and their asking prices, the lower-priced ones never have the upgraded brakes.

Not an SV, but the best example of a launch is at 1:30 here: Hold on for dear life is right!

Just out of curiosity, where are all the stock silver Murci wheels going? To the great wheel spa in the sky? I may need a set someday if I find the right Murci with black wheels...

Love that Balloon White! Do you know specifically what made this particular car a lemon?

Obvious. Still doesn't make it a prudent thing to do on a car known for engine fires.

Me too! Audi/Lambo took the new SV in a direction even further away from the Italian heritage, both mechanically and in design...

This, boys and girls, is why you really should leave the stock muffler ON! It doubles as a flame suppressor. This outing on the track could very easily ended with the owner in tears, standing next to a pile of ashes...

If you check the VIN, you see that previously he was looking for $190k. The reserve is probably up around that mark somewhere. Unfortunately, this "violates" the rule about modifications to a car being reflected in its value. The assumption here, being, that the thousands he invested in the turbo and aftermarket equipment legitimately adds a premium to the price. Only the potential buyer can answer the question: "Is this car worth this to me?" But, realistically, modifications such as this are something that an owner does because he wants to get the enjoyment of something for himself, with the understanding that the value of the car will always remain equivalent to others of its year, mileage, and condition. To me, this represents a corruption of the unaspirated V12. This car is not a rice-burner. The wear the additional horsepower puts on drivetrain and other components actually depreciate the car further than it otherwise would have been. If you're looking for a car to drag stoplights, then maybe this fits the bill. But if that's the case, maybe a GT-R would be a more satisfying choice. I've owned turbocharged cars, and while they do have thrill-value, they are not as reliable mechanically, generally-speaking (at least the ones with aftermarket kits). IMO, the car shouldn't sell for more than $150k.

I'm just the opposite -- I prefer chrome/silver.

Congratulations! This is my favorite color combination ext/int. I wish more folks felt the way you and I do about the exhaust. Delete the cats...OK, fine...but leave the factory muffler! The small gain in horsepower is not worth losing the ability to hear the beautiful harmonics the engine produces!

Gotcha. I'm not questioning what you heard, but the skeptic in me wonders if perhaps someone launched a car a few times, then claimed it happened on the transport to try to wriggle out of an expensive repair. (Or maybe the clutch was already burnt before it was delivered?) Hmmm...

Slipping a clutch fifteen feet up a ramp a handful of times is enough to burn it through? Please tell me that Lambo uses better clutches than that! ;-)

Best wishes! I can only imagine the anticipation you're feeling right now! The only major item I did not see in the listing are the carbon-ceramic brakes option...may be a bargaining tool for you. (Kicks toe at an imaginary pebble, and says, "You know, I was REALLY searching for a car with carbon-ceramic brakes. I don't know...) The one thing that concerns me a little is the fact that the clutch was replaced at 9k. That can only mean one thing: that the car was launched repeatedly. If you can, tell the mechanic to focus on the drivetrain. Differential? Let us know what happens!

Just wanted to say that I hope my comments didn't rankle anyone, as that wasn't my intention. I enjoyed having this conversation, and I thank those for their thoughts!

Certainly the difference between a convertible and a coupe is not on the same par as drivetrain. Also, you're talking about a completely different generation of car, and the difference between a true "collectible" where the car needs to be as it was when it rolled off the showroom floor, vs. perhaps a later model "desired" vehicle no longer in production. That's all I'm saying, not that it wouldn't be better to be able to buy a factory-equipped manual. Also, I don't know numbers, but how many convertible Cudas are there? There aren't many manual LP640s, either, but, again, I'm not sure a Murci qualifies as a true collectible like an earlier-era vehicle. Most Murci owners drive them, some very carefully and not very often, but I would venture to guess that those convertible Cudas end up in mothballs.

I agree with you about the color! Just wondering what you mean when you called it a "base" car? It's an LP640.

Just curious what your thoughts are here...

I don't dispute what you're saying, and I'm sure there are "ringer" sales at higher dollar amounts. To a certain degree, those who are uber-rich don't care about negotiation, are perhaps insulted by it, and if they want something, they buy it. The high price becomes a bit of a "status" symbol for them, because it reflects upon how much disposable income they have. By way of contrast, here is a recent offering on eBay from Lamborghini of Dallas, a 2007 manual LP640 with 5,911 miles: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2007-Lamborghini-M...=true&rt=nc If the link doesn't work, it was offered at $230k, VIN ZHWBU37M77LA02595. Listing ended without a sale. An opinion just from me -- I don't believe the Murci will enter the "collectible" market for some years to come. Not enough potential buyers have an appreciation for the unique engine, which is the Murci's primary claim to fame -- especially the 6.5L. The styling is not on a par with the Miura, Countach, or Diablo. For those who want performance, and have the money to spend, there are too many other choices now. For this reason, I see no problem with the aftermarket conversion from e-gear to manual. It's not going to affect the resale, because these cars will never be evaluated closely in this respect, and how it relates to overall value. Save the parts, and it can be switched back if a buyer wants. A conversion runs $25-30k, so, therefore, a factory manual should only sell for a premium of that amount over an e-gear. I see plenty of quality e-gears for sale in the $175-190k range. (Range for base models is a little wider, but caps out about $155k for a truly exceptional car.) Given the current softness, that's probably about a fair current evaluation, although it may drift a little lower from here. Again, just my two cents...

Just my personal preference, but I find it helpful to do a sort on the cars from low price to high. It's really very informative to keep an eye on how cars are being priced, mileage, what's realistic and what's out of the ballpark, etc...