430 Scuderia

The barometer I prefer to look at is how the width of the driver's smile after getting out of either car....

 

Here's something nobody mentioned:

 

The SL comes with either transmission

The Scuderia only comes with F1

 

So that's a knock against the Ferrari.

 

Unfortunately, Ferrari seems to be going that way with all of its new cars. The 599 is very hard to get in a stick I heard. With the new faster cars, the pro's obviously outweigh the con's, but there really isn't a substitute for a stick shift.

 

How much is this thing? I like it!

 

Is that a photoshop? It looks so much better without those tacky gold rims...

Unfortunately, Ferrari seems to be going that way with all of its new cars. The 599 is very hard to get in a stick I heard. With the new faster cars, the pro's obviously outweigh the con's, but there really isn't a substitute for a stick shift.

Is that a photoshop? It looks so much better without those tacky gold rims...

 

Not sure. Found it on Fagchat. Think you can get it in that color with those wheels.

The white one is a photoshop, but they'll come in various colors. I don't know about the wheels but you could always paint the gold ones - They look a lot better in grey!

 

You can bet there will be one hell of a premium, my guess is they'll be flipping them in the mid $300's at first.

they are only offering them in F1 no 6 speed. the car will msrp at around $225K

I'll take one @ MSRP. HAHA! ;p

Only hardcore Ferrari idiots would buy that car at the mid 300's. I like it a lot actually, and if it goes as fast as they say, then hell, 250K would be very reasonable.

Only hardcore Ferrari idiots would buy that car at the mid 300's. I like it a lot actually, and if it goes as fast as they say, then hell, 250K would be very reasonable.

dont F430 Spyders go for mid 300K's?

dont F430 Spyders go for mid 300K's?

 

In that case they went up. Last time I inquired on one it was 300k for a brand new one.

dunno, want just looking here:

 

http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/Search...;modelname=F430

 

 

Dont be surprised if this one doesnt command as high a premium guys, I dont think the CS did, bc the vast majority of buyers are not drivers...they just want the newest ferrari, and less luxury is a negative...

Some pics from the preview at Fiorano

Looks smashing!

still nowhere close to a Gallardo in terms of looks.

quote from fchat...

 

Dealer called last week and said "If you want one it will be $250K-$260K list price, we will be selling around $100K over sticker". A few other stipulations to be on the "order list". This dealer said they are getting 8 of them.

still nowhere close to a Gallardo in terms of looks.

 

 

spider maybe not the coupe for sure, gallardo's front nose is just too short

More info I found from another forum:

 

Lightweight, simple and striking with a distinctive engine and exhaust sound: every last detail of the Ferrari 430 Scuderia exudes uncompromising sportiness as a direct result of its close links to the world of racing, which is reflected in the car's name: "Scuderia". Seven-times World Champion Michael Schumacher was also involved in the car's development, with the result that the most advanced single-seater technology is now available to Ferrari's sportiest and most passionate clients. With a dry weight of 2775 lb (1250 kg) and 510 hp delivered at 8500 rpm by its naturally aspirated 4308 cm3 V8 engine, the 430 Scuderia boasts an extraordinarily low weight-power ratio of just 2.45 kg/hp, which allows it to sprint from 0 to 100 km/h in just 3.6 seconds. It can also complete a lap at Fiorano in a time comparable to that of the Enzo, the Ferrari that has come to epitomise Maranello's philosophy of transferring F1 content to its road cars.

Thanks to its sophisticated aerodynamics, F1-SuperFast2 gearbox and E-Diff coupled with the sophisticated F1-Trac traction control system, this sporty new mid-rear engined berlinetta combines ultra-nimble handling with blisteringly fast acceleration. The result? Absolutely superlative driving pleasure both on the road and on the track.

ENGINE AND ENGINE SOUND

 

The 430 Scuderia's engine is an evolution of the F430's 90° V8 which features a number of modifications to boost its specific power output from 114 hp/litre to 118 hp/litre. The inlet ducts and exhaust system have been optimised, most notably through the adoption of the exhaust geometries derived from the F430 Challenge and the use of carbon-fibre on the intake manifold and for the filter housing to aid weight reduction.

 

Thanks to Ferrari's Formula 1 experience, the 430 Scuderia's ignition system boasts special coils and, for the first time on a market-targeted car, a dedicated CPU capable of monitoring the ionising currents generated inside the combustion chamber between the spark plug electrodes. This means that every single sparking detonation is detected for every cylinder and sparking is faster and more accurate across the board.

 

The 430 Scuderia's compression ratio has also been increased to 11.88:1, thanks in part to a new piston design.

 

Particular attention was paid to achieving just the right sound from the engine and exhaust as this has always been one of the real trademarks of every Prancing Horse car. Cutting-edge calculation tools were employed to optimise the 430 Scuderia's intake and exhaust systems and sound damping, with the result that the exhaust and engine sound inside the cabin is clear, powerful and particularly thrilling in full acceleration.

F1-SUPERFAST2 GEARBOX

 

The F1-SuperFast2 is an evolution of the F1 gearbox used on all of Ferrari's models and reduces gear-shifting times to just 60 ms, the fastest time of any of the models in the Prancing Horse range, the lowest overall of any automated-manual gearbox. Significantly, Ferrari calculates the gear changing time according to the acceleration gap, not just the time it takes to engage the gear. The various stages are implemented in parallel (non-sequentially). In the case of the F1-SuperFast2, genuinely innovative integrated engine and gearbox management programmes allow the combined disengaging/engaging of the gears to take place partly in parallel with letting the clutch in and out.

E-DIFF2: E-DIFF WITH F1-TRAC

 

The E-Diff2 (which is integrated with the gearbox) is one of the primary components which clearly demonstrate the 430 Scuderia's links to the track. In use for many years now in Formula 1, it is integrated with the car's stability control system.

 

The 430 Scuderia is the first high performance road car after the F430 to sport an electronic differential. Torque is continuously distributed between the wheels via two sets of friction discs (one for each driveshaft) controlled by a hydraulic actuator.

The amount of torque actually transmitted to the driven wheels depends on driving conditions and brings considerable advantages in terms of performance, direction stability, active safety and handling feedback.

 

The F1-Trac traction control system, which is also derived from Ferrari's F1 experience, ensures that even more drivers will be able to extract the maximum performance from the car, thanks to the exceptional cornering, safety and stability it offers. Introduced for the first time on a road car with the Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano, it is faster and more precise than a traditional traction control system and optimises traction by modulating power delivery to help maintain the desired vehicle trajectory. The system estimates the maximum available grip thanks to continual monitoring of the relative speed of the wheels.

 

The integrated E-Diff and F1-Trac systems offers 40% more acceleration out of corners than a traditional traction and stability control system.

RACING MANETTINO

 

The manettino has already featured in several of Ferrari's road cars but the 430 Scuderia features the special Racing version which puts the emphasis firmly on track-specific sporty driving and provides the driver with even more choice in terms of the car set-up. With this in mind, the ICE setting available with the F430 has been removed and a new CT- (Traction Control Off) setting has been introduced. This deactivates the car's traction control, but unlike the CST position, retains the safety of the car's stability control system to ensure a level of safety is maintained.

 

Another novelty with the 430 Scuderia is a button on the centre console which allows the suspension to be controlled separately from the predefined manettino strategy. This allows the driver can maintain maximum performance even on irregular road surfaces.

 

Michael Schumacher made a particularly valuable contribution to this area of the car's development. In fact. he and the car development team worked together to ensure that the 430 Scuderia delivers both exceptional performance and fantastic driving pleasure which is within reach of non-professional drivers.

BRAKES

 

The 430 Scuderia boasts a specific braking system featuring CCM (carbon ceramic material) discs with specific dimensions to cope with the car's increased performance.

 

The front discs are now 18 mm larger than those on the F430 and are designed to dissipate the extra heat created by the higher performance and are even more hard-wearing for greater efficiency. These components, together with 6-pot calipers, guarantee blistering performance at all times and, equally importantly, consistently efficient braking during prolonged track use.

AERODYNAMICS

 

The 430 Scuderia's external styling has been honed to improve its aerodynamic efficiency by increasing overall downforce whilst still retaining the same drag values as the F430. The aerodynamic efficiency of the newly-styled rear diffuser has been enhanced by the addition of a revised profile for spoiler at the rear of the engine cover and by the large venturis that run from the front wheel houses to the rear bumpers, achieving the patented "Base Bleed" effect developed by Ferrari as part of the FXX project. The Base Bleed effect has the double advantage of reducing the pressure in the rear wheel arch, thereby increasing downforce and lowering drag by blowing the car's "wake".

 

Furthermore, the new lower sill profiles ensure a more uniform distribution of air over the lower parts to ensure uniform distribution of the vertical load between the front and the rear of the car.

STYLING AND PERSONALISATION

 

The 430 Scuderia's ultra-sporty character and blistering performance have led to the redesign of many of its exterior and interior styling features. This was done to give the F430-inspired model its own strong personality and to further enhance the aerodynamics of what is a very extreme car. The modifications made to the exterior focus on increasing downforce. In-depth research went into reducing the car's weight and has led to extensive use of carbon-fibre, including some of the bodywork components.

 

The cabin has been inspired by racing and, once again, the emphasis has been on weight reduction and using technical materials where possible.

 

The new "Super Racing" seat boasts an all-carbon-fibre structure and is available in several different sizes as well as being manually adjustable, including a recline adjustment for the seat back. The Carrozzeria Scaglietti Personalisation programme has also been enhanced to meet the 430 Scuderia's specific requirements as well. The Racing and Track area, in particular, now offers carbonfibre kits for the 430 Scuderia to enhance the message that this is a lean, track-focused driver's car. The headlamp assembly, engine cover, front spoiler, side sill kick panels and diffuser are all available in this high tech material. There is also now a choice of wheel rim colours and a specially designed carbon-fibre helmet is available to order.

FERRARI IN GERMANY

 

Ferrari Deutschland, which is based in Wiesbaden, has been managing our German market since 1989. With a total of 23 dealerships and 4 assistance points, Germany competes with Italy as Ferrari's second largest market, accounting for around 12% of the Prancing Horse's total sales.

 

Ferrari's German clients have always retained very close links to the Prancing Horse and we ensure these links remain strong by offering a very high standard of service. At the start of 2007, for instance, we founded Ferrari Financial Services Deutschland, which is controlled by the Maranello-based Ferrari Financial Services SpA. The German company operates within Germany where, within a few short months, the services it offers have been taken up for 40% of the cars sold, as well as in Austria, France, Belgium and Switzerland.

 

Germany is Ferrari's third largest market after the United States and the UK in terms of the percentage of clients registered with the Ferrari Owners' Site (11%) while the Ferrari Club Deutschland has approximately 500 members spread throughout the country.

FERRARI 430 SCUDERIA

 

Technical Specifications

 

* Vehicle dimensions

* Overall length 177.6 in (4512 mm)

* Overall width 75.7 in (1923 mm)

* Height 47.2 in (1199 mm)

* Wheelbase 102.4 in (2600 mm)

* Front track 65.7 in (1669 mm)

* Rear track 63.6 in (1616 mm)

* Dry Weight* 2775 lb (1250 kg)

* Kerb Weight* 2975 lb(1350 kg)

* Weight Distribution 43% Front, 57% Rear

* Boot capacity 8.83 cu ft (250 l)

* Fuel tank capacity 25.1 US gal (20.9 UK gal) (95 l)

* Carbon-ceramic brakes Front 15.6 x 1.4 in (398 X 36 mm), Rear 13.7 x 1.3 in (350 X 34 mm)

* Tyres Front 235/35 19', Rear 285/35 19''

 

Engine

 

* Type 90° V8

* Bore and Stroke 3.26 x 3.19 in (92 x 81 mm)

* Total displacement 263 cu in 4308 cm3

* Compression ratio 11.88:1

* Maximum power** 375.4 kW (510 CV) at 8500 rpm

* Specific output 118.4 CV/litre

* Maximum torque 470 Nm (346.67 lbft) at 5250 rpm

* Maximum revs per minute 8640 rpm (with limiter)

 

Performance

 

* Acceleration 0-62 mph (0-100 km/h) in less than 3.6 s

* 0-124 mph (0-200 km/h) in less than 11.6 s

* 0 - 1000 m in 20.9 s

* Maximum Speed 198 mph (320 km/h)

* Dry weight/Power 5.4 lb/CV (2,45 kg/CV)

 

Electronic Controls

 

* CST Stability and Traction Control with new traction control logic F1-Trac integrated with the electronic differential (E-Diff)

 

Transmission and Gearbox

 

* Electronic differential E-Diff2 (E-Diff + F1-Trac)

* Gearbox F1, 6-gears + Reverse

 

Fuel Consumption

 

* Combined* 15.7 l/100 km

 

CO2 Emissions

 

* Combined* 360g/km

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The stats show that its going to be much faster, and better, in all depts. than the sl.....big big shame. Not sure how it will fare against the gt2 (in the right hands)...have to wait and see how good that is.

 

I agree with Allan.....if its not careful Lambo is going to fall fast and hard at this rate. Sl, a slightish improvement/reveetc.....POS.

 

Sort it the fcuk out bologna boys.......

man, that scuderia front bumper looks so much more delightful and aggressive compared to the standard f430's

great car, and possibly obtainable, the hardcore cars arent as desirable to the maintstream i dont think...

 

 

True, but the 360 CS was produced in much fewer #'s, in comparison to the garden variety 360 Modenas. The low production #'s, keeps the demand hot. It will not be an easy car to obtain from the dealership. - Unless the buyer is willing to pay a premium.

 

 

I heard the 360 CS, is a drivers car. Nice and edgy. Hopefully this car will not be dialed back.

The stats show that its going to be much faster, and better, in all depts. than the sl.....big big shame.

as it SHOULD be. if this thing wasnt faster than a G SL, it would be an utter failure.

In your opinion, my friend.

my opinion = fact j/k

The stats show that its going to be much faster, and better, in all depts. than the sl

 

all ferraris press numbers are BS. We'll see what it really does soon enough.

I actually really like the way this car looks. Best F-Car in a long time IMO.

Actually for some years now all their press numers are understated.

 

Enzo, F430, 599 and so on.

 

All these cars made considerably better time in tests, a clear example is the F430 from 4sec 0-100 official various mags recorded 3.7-3.8s

 

 

Actually for some years now all their press numers are understated.

 

Enzo, F430, 599 and so on.

 

All these cars made considerably better time in tests, a clear example is the F430 from 4sec 0-100 official various mags recorded 3.7-3.8s

 

actually, its not the press numbers that are overstated, its the fact that they send cars that have been tampered with and a crew of men to fiddle with the car to magazine tests. usually when I bring this up, people start saying "you're a fanboy, BLEEEEH!" but look to EVO and there is perfect documentation of it.