Placid Report post Posted October 21, 2011 Must be a lot of potential for a lightweight edition... Damn that's heavy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Report post Posted October 21, 2011 0-124MPH (200KPH) RESULTS 9.3 - KOENIGSEGG CCX 9.4 - LAMBORGHINI AVENTADOR LP700 9.6 - MCLAREN F1 9.8 - PAGANI ZONDA F 10.0 - PORSCHE 911 TURBO S (997.2) 10.3 - FERRARI ENZO 10.4 - FERRARI 458 10.5 - PORSCHE 911 GT1 LM (ROAD VERSION) 10.5 - MERCEDES SLR 722 10.7 - LAMBORGHINI GALLARDO LP570-4 SL 10.7 - PORSCHE CARERRA GT 10.7 - LAMBORGHINI LP640 11.0 - MERCEDES-MCLAREN SLR 11.1 - MERCEDES SLS 0-186MPH (300KPH) RESULTS 14.9 - BUGATTI VEYRON SS 16.7 - BUGATTI VEYRON 21.9 - KOENIGSEGG CCX 22.3 - MCLAREN F1 24.8 - LAMBORGHINI AVENTADOR LP700 26.1 - FERRARI ENZO 28.6 - PORSCHE 911 GT2RS (997.2) 29.6 - MERCEDES SLR 29.9 - FERRARI 599GTB 31.8 - LAMBORGHINI MURCIELAGO LP640 32.3 - LAMBORGHINI GALLARDO LP570-4 SL 33.6 - FORD GT 34.2 - PORSCHE CARRERA GT Can't imagine how anyone looking for any performance figures would be somehow upset or disappointed in this showing...especially from a notoriously slow magazine that takes its time and provides controlled results... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboad Report post Posted October 21, 2011 The aventador out of the box is a fast car. You cant compare the aventador to the turbo s. Turbo s is a boring car to drive nomatter how fast it is, and while the mclaren might be fast who cares. That thing is named after a fax machine and looks like a honda nsx, styling is 10 years dated. For anyone whos really concerned about numbers i suggest they buy a gtr, send it over to sp for the 1000 package and enjoy running high 9's all day on pump gas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
q8ylambo Report post Posted October 21, 2011 The aventador out of the box is a fast car. You cant compare the aventador to the turbo s. Turbo s is a boring car to drive nomatter how fast it is, and while the mclaren might be fast who cares. That thing is named after a fax machine and looks like a honda nsx, styling is 10 years dated. For anyone whos really concerned about numbers i suggest they buy a gtr, send it over to sp for the 1000 package and enjoy running high 9's all day on pump gas. + the aventador is faster than the mp4-c12akdjociuajnp382u29y472y8o24 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Report post Posted October 21, 2011 My only thought to the car's performance prior to these numbers was that I wanted it to suprass the Enzo's figures at all levels. Not due to the rivalry between the marques, but because that's the technological progress I'd want to see if I were a buyer at that level: Surpass the best-performing of the last round of hypercars (mid-2000s) at half the price. It's done that. So the figures are strong to me, actually a bit faster than I expected probably as the 0-200kph mark is pretty amazing. And I'll say this, it will be a tough assignment for the 599-replacement to surpass those numbers in a dramatic way. With KERS being left on the sideline for that car, along with deliveries of it being at LEAST two years away from today for any non-MULTI-Ferrari owners, I don't see the comparison being valid anyway. It really has no peer right now or in the immediate future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboad Report post Posted October 21, 2011 And I'll say this, it will be a tough assignment for the 599-replacement to surpass those numbers in a dramatic way. With KERS being left on the sideline for that car, along with deliveries of it being at LEAST two years away from today for any non-MULTI-Ferrari owners, I don't see the comparison being valid anyway. It really has no peer right now or in the immediate future. I agree, and when the 599 replacement will come lambo will probably have its revised aventador with direct injection and a reworked head ready to fight back. Im just happy with the direction lambo is taking with its engines. While everybody is switching to forced induction for effeciency lambo are still sticking to sensational na powerplants. Look at the new m5, 63 mercs ,pagani huayra and the mp4 fax machine. Ok we know that turbos are cool and efficient, and really easy to tune with a chip. But they are never as good sounding or fun to drive as na cars. I appreciate lambo for sticking to its roots and for caring about US the drivers instead of the environmentalists. There might be a turbo lambo comming in the near future, but atleast until then we can enjoy those wonderful na engines before they become extinct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
q8ylambo Report post Posted October 21, 2011 I agree, and when the 599 replacement will come lambo will probably have its revised aventador with direct injection and a reworked head ready to fight back. I don't see Lambo putting new engine in the aventador in 2 years time , 4 years maybe but 2 years noway Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboad Report post Posted October 21, 2011 Most probably but inevitably it will happen, not a new engine though a slightly reworked one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Report post Posted October 23, 2011 The weight has to be wrong! Isn't the Aventador somewhere around 1650kg or something? Either that or they have some fat ass journalist driver and passenger in there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentley Motors Report post Posted October 23, 2011 My only thought to the car's performance prior to these numbers was that I wanted it to suprass the Enzo's figures at all levels. Not due to the rivalry between the marques, but because that's the technological progress I'd want to see if I were a buyer at that level: Surpass the best-performing of the last round of hypercars (mid-2000s) at half the price. It's done that. So the figures are strong to me, actually a bit faster than I expected probably as the 0-200kph mark is pretty amazing. And I'll say this, it will be a tough assignment for the 599-replacement to surpass those numbers in a dramatic way. With KERS being left on the sideline for that car, along with deliveries of it being at LEAST two years away from today for any non-MULTI-Ferrari owners, I don't see the comparison being valid anyway. It really has no peer right now or in the immediate future. You got it right. Lamborghini has done an amazing job with the car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentley Motors Report post Posted October 23, 2011 I don't see Lambo putting new engine in the aventador in 2 years time , 4 years maybe but 2 years noway As a member of the V.A.G Group I can confirm, that you will only see minor modifications the next 5 years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragvorl Report post Posted October 23, 2011 The weight has to be wrong! Isn't the Aventador somewhere around 1650kg or something? Either that or they have some fat ass journalist driver and passenger in there. The official website claims 1575 kg dry weight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickSimmons Report post Posted October 23, 2011 Here are some 12C and GT2 RS comparison numbers from Sport Auto. Blow the doors of an Aventador with a 12C? I think not. Key metrics are as follows (test car with Pirelli Corsa and CCB brakes): (GT2 RS stated as benchmark) NBR: 7.28 (GT2 RS: 7.24) - Doettinger Hoehe 293kph (300kph) HHR: 1.08,7 (1.08,4) 0-100kph: 3.4s (3.5s) 0-200kph: 9.8s (9.8s) Weight of tested car: 1451kg (1405kg) Cw: 0.37 (0.35) CwxA: 0.72 (0.71) Downforce at 200kph front: 2kg (14kg) Downforce at 200kph rear: 62kg (35kg) 200-0: 144.2m (126.6m) Wet handling: 1.38,7 (1.38,7) 36m slalom: 138kph (144kph) 110 meter test: 157kph (159kph) 0-300kph: 31s (included in the same issue of Sportauto, not Supertest though: GT3 RS 4.0 benchmark 41s) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambornima Report post Posted October 23, 2011 I don't see Lambo putting new engine in the aventador in 2 years time , 4 years maybe but 2 years noway New ENGINE?! wow that more than unnecessary! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
q8ylambo Report post Posted October 23, 2011 New ENGINE?! wow that more than unnecessary! i meant modified Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Report post Posted October 23, 2011 Here are some 12C and GT2 RS comparison numbers from Sport Auto. Blow the doors of an Aventador with a 12C? I think not. Excellent, added them into the lists: 0-124MPH (200KPH) RESULTS 9.3 - KOENIGSEGG CCX 9.4 - LAMBORGHINI AVENTADOR LP700 9.6 - MCLAREN F1 9.8 - PAGANI ZONDA F 9.8 - MCLAREN MP4-12C FAX MACHINE 10.0 - PORSCHE 911 TURBO S (997.2) 10.3 - FERRARI ENZO 10.4 - FERRARI 458 10.5 - PORSCHE 911 GT1 LM (ROAD VERSION) 10.5 - MERCEDES SLR 722 10.7 - LAMBORGHINI GALLARDO LP570-4 SL 10.7 - PORSCHE CARERRA GT 10.7 - LAMBORGHINI LP640 11.0 - MERCEDES-MCLAREN SLR 11.1 - MERCEDES SLS 0-186MPH (300KPH) RESULTS 14.9 - BUGATTI VEYRON SS 16.7 - BUGATTI VEYRON 21.9 - KOENIGSEGG CCX 22.3 - MCLAREN F1 24.8 - LAMBORGHINI AVENTADOR LP700 26.1 - FERRARI ENZO 28.6 - PORSCHE 911 GT2RS (997.2) 29.6 - MERCEDES SLR 29.9 - FERRARI 599GTB 31.0 - MCLAREN MP4-12C FAX MACHINE 31.8 - LAMBORGHINI MURCIELAGO LP640 32.3 - LAMBORGHINI GALLARDO LP570-4 SL 33.6 - FORD GT 34.2 - PORSCHE CARRERA GT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan-Herbie Report post Posted October 23, 2011 Excellent, added them into the lists: 0-124MPH (200KPH) RESULTS 9.3 - KOENIGSEGG CCX 9.4 - LAMBORGHINI AVENTADOR LP700 9.6 - MCLAREN F1 9.8 - PAGANI ZONDA F 9.8 - MCLAREN MP4-12C FAX MACHINE 10.0 - PORSCHE 911 TURBO S (997.2) 10.3 - FERRARI ENZO 10.4 - FERRARI 458 10.5 - PORSCHE 911 GT1 LM (ROAD VERSION) 10.5 - MERCEDES SLR 722 10.7 - LAMBORGHINI GALLARDO LP570-4 SL 10.7 - PORSCHE CARERRA GT 10.7 - LAMBORGHINI LP640 11.0 - MERCEDES-MCLAREN SLR 11.1 - MERCEDES SLS 0-186MPH (300KPH) RESULTS 14.9 - BUGATTI VEYRON SS 16.7 - BUGATTI VEYRON 21.9 - KOENIGSEGG CCX 22.3 - MCLAREN F1 24.8 - LAMBORGHINI AVENTADOR LP700 26.1 - FERRARI ENZO 28.6 - PORSCHE 911 GT2RS (997.2) 29.6 - MERCEDES SLR 29.9 - FERRARI 599GTB 31.0 - MCLAREN MP4-12C FAX MACHINE 31.8 - LAMBORGHINI MURCIELAGO LP640 32.3 - LAMBORGHINI GALLARDO LP570-4 SL 33.6 - FORD GT 34.2 - PORSCHE CARRERA GT I will bet that the Mp4 is significantly faster than 31 sec to 186... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
q8ylambo Report post Posted October 23, 2011 I will bet that the Mp4 is significantly faster than 31 sec to 186... not faster than the aventador Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboad Report post Posted October 24, 2011 As a member of the V.A.G Group I can confirm, that you will only see minor modifications the next 5 years. A reworked head with direct injection, different cams and a free flowing exhaust falls under "minor modifications" But lets not go that far into the future 0-124MPH (200KPH) RESULTS 9.3 - KOENIGSEGG CCX 9.4 - LAMBORGHINI AVENTADOR LP700 9.6 - MCLAREN F1 9.8 - PAGANI ZONDA F 9.8 - MCLAREN MP4-12C FAX MACHINE This kind of performance should make owners happy for a few years to come Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asscelerator Report post Posted October 24, 2011 Here are some 12C and GT2 RS comparison numbers from Sport Auto. Blow the doors of an Aventador with a 12C? I think not. Key metrics are as follows (test car with Pirelli Corsa and CCB brakes): (GT2 RS stated as benchmark) NBR: 7.28 (GT2 RS: 7.24) - Doettinger Hoehe 293kph (300kph) HHR: 1.08,7 (1.08,4) 0-100kph: 3.4s (3.5s) 0-200kph: 9.8s (9.8s) Weight of tested car: 1451kg (1405kg) Cw: 0.37 (0.35) CwxA: 0.72 (0.71) Downforce at 200kph front: 2kg (14kg) Downforce at 200kph rear: 62kg (35kg) 200-0: 144.2m (126.6m) Wet handling: 1.38,7 (1.38,7) 36m slalom: 138kph (144kph) 110 meter test: 157kph (159kph) 0-300kph: 31s (included in the same issue of Sportauto, not Supertest though: GT3 RS 4.0 benchmark 41s) The Porsche GT2 RS runs on Sport Cups, (sport cups are a little faster than p zero corsa). Anyways, McLaren seems to make a distinction, although the corsa is still considered a semi slick, it has a much more significant "tread" pattern still hauls Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLHOMESITE Report post Posted October 26, 2011 I have $5000 in mods on my GTR and will have no trouble But I still want one bad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPOZ Report post Posted October 27, 2011 I have $5000 in mods on my GTR and will have no trouble But I still want one bad. But who gives a fark for the Datto..... No one would notice the Datsun when the Aventador is next to it. It is a stunning car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadfoot Report post Posted October 28, 2011 The weight has to be wrong! Isn't the Aventador somewhere around 1650kg or something? Either that or they have some fat ass journalist driver and passenger in there. Something is definitely off for the weight. I know of a car that was weighed at the airport loaded on the big metal pallet it ships on (which must weigh at least 75Kg or more) and the total weight was 1705kg (3758 lb). Where Auto Motor got their 1831kg weight from I have no idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert-LP Report post Posted October 28, 2011 Quattroruote Magazine measured the LP700 Weight: 1870 kg BUT this weight is with 100 kg load (test driver and instruments) and with full gasoline tank so the wet weight (with fluids but no gasoline) is about 1670 kg. Not much for an AWD with 6,5 liter V12. ciao Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee Report post Posted October 28, 2011 It is ALOT! No but's and if's ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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