Active Shooter SO CAL!

FBI officially called this a terrorist attack.

 

Anyone else buy a shit ton of ammo today?

 

Have prices and availability come back to reality or are they still in outer space?

Have prices and availability come back to reality or are they still in outer space?

learn to reload

 

 

learn to reload

 

You see, half the people I know reload and say it's great and the other half say don't do it because of all of the exploded guns out there. I've seen too many pictures of guns that blew up and it always seemed to be reloaded rounds. I know it could happen with any round, but with my G36, I wasn't about to put reloaded rounds through a $6K gun. I would through an AK or M1A or something like that, but I'd still be skeptical. Do you reload?

Farook's family attorneys presser going on right now.

 

Trying to walk back the terrorism claim...didn't do the family any favours.

Farook's family attorneys presser going on right now.

 

Trying to walk back the terrorism claim...

 

Listening to those two try to make their point was painful.

You see, half the people I know reload and say it's great and the other half say don't do it because of all of the exploded guns out there. I've seen too many pictures of guns that blew up and it always seemed to be reloaded rounds. I know it could happen with any round, but with my G36, I wasn't about to put reloaded rounds through a $6K gun. I would through an AK or M1A or something like that, but I'd still be skeptical. Do you reload?

 

Buy good equipment and you'll be fine. The better stuff has safeguards to prevent (and check) for double powder loads.

 

It's something you need to take seriously to really understand what you're doing, powder quantity, powder types, etc. It turns into a quasi hobby in itself.

Just got sent a close up of the dead shooter. They shot him in the fcuking face.

Just got sent a close up of the dead shooter. They shot him in the fcuking face.

 

Good.

 

Post it or email it to me.

Good.

 

Post it or email it to me.

 

Hahaha.

 

Correction: Shot in the back of the head and exit wound was half of the face. Pretty sure this is him.

 

 

 

 

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If that's him, fcuk that guy

 

We're ready to rock and roll out here.

 

 

My wife is ready to roll. Wants a gun, conceal carry and most importantly courses on how to use it.

 

We lived 2.5 blocks from these terrorists house when we first got married. We used to take walks right past there. I'm sure they didn't live there then but still kinda hits home.

My wife is ready to roll. Wants a gun, conceal carry and most importantly courses on how to use it.

 

We lived 2.5 blocks from these terrorists house when we first got married. We used to take walks right past there. I'm sure they didn't live there then but still kinda hits home.

 

Good luck, a ccw in so Cal is a PITA

Good luck, a ccw in so Cal is a PITA

 

We are in PA now. It's a piece of cake here.

Wow. They lit his ass up.

My wife is ready to roll. Wants a gun, conceal carry and most importantly courses on how to use it.

 

We lived 2.5 blocks from these terrorists house when we first got married. We used to take walks right past there. I'm sure they didn't live there then but still kinda hits home.

 

I guess I wont see you out here for F1...

 

Have her take the hand gun classes Sheriff Hess teaches at WCCC. Text me for info.

Wow. They lit his ass up.

380 rounds better have hit something.

So the landlord open the apartment up to the media and they all went in? And basically contaminated the entire apartment? I can't imagine The powers that be we're done with combing through that rats nest of crap? Seriously, W...T...F?

Very interesting read on an emergency room doctor who was the first first responder on the scene and brought his tactical gear with him.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/03/health/s...file/index.html

So the landlord open the apartment up to the media and they all went in? And basically contaminated the entire apartment? I can't imagine The powers that be we're done with combing through that rats nest of crap? Seriously, W...T...F?

 

 

Cops said they executed what their warrant allowed and handed the house over to the homeowner when done. Homeowner was free to do what he wants with it at that point. Stupid to let the vultures in there anyways.

Very interesting read on an emergency room doctor who was the first first responder on the scene and brought his tactical gear with him.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/03/health/s...file/index.html

 

 

Hannibal, I know him. Worked with him for a few years. He was doing swat team back then as well. If you watch the video half way down the page you can see the trauma bay where I spent several years of my life. The hospital is only a couple freeway exits from the shooting scene. It's definately a gun and knife club.

 

My neighbor's wife took a pretty good gun course put on by some local state cops. Will text you for info on the one you mentioned as well.

Very interesting read on an emergency room doctor who was the first first responder on the scene and brought his tactical gear with him.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/03/health/s...file/index.html

Now that's a guy with balls. He's a hero

My wife and I went to a candlelight vigil at a local park they had tonight for our neighbor that was killed. Very nice, looked like easily a few hundred people with several city fire trucks and lot of police in uniform.

 

And then you had these two women fcuking cunts whom I can only describe as lovers of camel cock... blonde hair Caucasians at that. With a huge yellow sign stating "Know the Real ISLAM, Understand why the victims died, Read the Koran," being extremely vocal and trying to pass out brochures like it's a map of disneyland. All this not 100ft from where the guys friends, family, wife and mother just finished talking about Robert, doing their best to just barely not be a sobbing mess.

 

I'm really only religious to the extent that I married a catholic and am almost impossible to offend, but in my mind that shit crossed a line.

Funerals, memorials, and things of that nature are not the place for any kind of stuff like that. Supercunts

Came across a great read for a proposed solution.

 

By Dan Calabrese via CainTV.com

 

No, left, you're not getting gun control. Instead, we offer crime control via good guys (and girls) with guns.

 

Every time a crime is committed with a gun - especially when the crime in question happens to capture the media's attention - the left wants to know, "When will enough be enough?" That is to say: When will you conservatives finally stop resisting and support gun control?

 

The New York Times over the weekend even basked in its own self-importance by publishing a pro-gun control editorial on its front page.

 

So when will enough be enough such that we will finally support gun control? The answer is: Never. Because gun control is not the answer. Even if there were 100,000 mass shootings that killed a million people, I (only presuming to speak for myself here, although I suspect I've got plenty of company) will never support gun control because I am convinced it would not only fail to solve the problem but would make the problem worse.

 

But I would like to put forth a proposal that I think would make a very big difference in reducing such crime, and it does involve guns. I don't think the ideological left will like it one bit, but those who really want to stop the killings might.

 

It's called the Citizen Marshal Initiative. The idea is to assemble a force of at least 20 million American citizens who are trained and licensed to carry concealed weapons, have received and successfully completed very high-level training in the safe use of these weapons (safe for everyone but the crooks, of course), have passed very thorough background checks, and upon completion of all this, are able to carry their weapons pretty much everywhere at all times.

 

In short, more people carrying more guns.

 

Here are some details:

 

1. Those who want to participate would have to apply for the program and would have to provide their own weapon - either one they already have or one they could decide to purchase on their own. The government would not pay for the guns.

 

2. Congress would, however, allocate money that can be used by local police departments to implement the training. Anyone who wants to participate would have to demonstrate that they understand the safety aspects of firearms and that they are able to fire their weapon with reasonable accuracy, even under stressful conditions. They would also be trained on how to spot a potential shooter or terrorist, and what to do (and what not to do) if they think they see one. It would be just as important to train them not to overreact and pull a gun prematurely or in error. An applicant could seek training directly from the FBI or from any local police department, not just the one where they live, which would prevent police in cities controlled by liberal politicians from refusing to let anyone pass because they hate the whole idea of citizen marshals.

 

3. The FBI would conduct a very thorough background check - and this would require federal money too because this is a heavy load of background checking you'd have to put on the FBI. You could not have any criminal record beyond traffic violations and things of that nature. Definitely nothing violent or drug-related. Being Muslim would not be a disqualifier but attending a mosque with connections to terrorism could cause you to fail the background check. Tough tooties.

 

4. If you pass and are deputized as a citizen marshal, you would have the credentials to carry your weapon anywhere - including sporting events that otherwise refuse to let people in with weapons, and "gun-free zones". They could not refuse to let you in with your gun.

 

5. If you pass, you would make a good faith commitment to carry your weapon at all times and to all places where you reasonably could, which because of the legal protections inherent in the program would be almost all times and all places.

 

6. Citizen marshals would be strictly volunteers.

 

7. Deputizing citizen marshals would in no way imply that the gun rights of anyone not deputized are lessened. It would simply provide added credentials to prevent people from refusing the citizen marshals access to places or events because of their guns. Indeed, it would turn that logic on its head: The more people who are gathered, the more guns we want.

 

8. Citizen marshals would have to recertify their training every so often.

 

9. Citizen marshals would have no law enforcement or arrest powers, although they could certainly choose to use their weapon to subdue rather than kill a potential assailant. Police would have to be called to make the actual arrest. The citizen marshals would simply have better training and better access to the places where an attack could occur. Also, the fact that citizen marshals are deputized would in no way mean that a non-deputized citizen would have any less right to a conceal carry license, or to fire their weapon to prevent a criminal from killing someone else.

 

10. Citizen marshals would display no identification of their status out in the open, lest they become the obvious first targets for an attacker looking to perpetrate a mass attack.

 

11. Citizen marshals would receive no special legal protection if they use their weapon in an irresponsible or criminal fashion. A couple months ago, a woman with a CCW license in Michigan followed shoplifters out of a store and fired her weapon at them. She was charged with a crime, and quite properly so. It was not her place to do that, and obviously firing a gun was not an appropriate response to shoplifting. Citizen marshals would similarly be charged if they did something so irresponsible.

 

The idea is obviously to increase the odds that a shooter would face armed resistance in the event he tried to pull something like Newtown, Colorado Springs or San Bernardino. And not just armed, but well trained. The proposal recognizes the fact that police cannot be everywhere all the time - a truth the criminals understand all too well and regularly take advantage of. This eliminates the confidence shooters would have going into a "gun-free zone" and introduces at least some element of doubt. Anywhere you go, you never know if a trained citizen marshal is present and ready for you.

 

The number 20 million is more aspirational than anything else. If we could get that many, then more than one in every 20 Americans would be deputized as a citizen marshal and ready to take action in the event of a threat. If it could be more - or a lot more - even better. Given the number of guns already in circulation, I would think you'd have a built-in constituency of folks who would be willing and able to volunteer.

 

One flaw would be this: Since citizen marshals would not be assigned to patrol any particular place, some targets might remain more vulnerable than others - particularly those more populated by liberal anti-gun types who are less likely to support or want to participate in the program. That would include schools. To some degree, that would mean that soft targets for mass shooters would self-select. If I were a school principal, I would urge as many of my teachers as possible to become deputized. And I would sure as hell do it myself. If they can't overcome their antipathy toward guns, they might ironically be setting themselves up as more likely targets.

 

Some conservatives might not like the idea of the government deputizing citizens, because it could offend the notion that gun rights are inherent and that no permission is needed from the government to exercise them. I agree with that notion, which is why I emphasize that the deputization is about the advanced training and the authority to carry your weapon into places where people might otherwise try to ban you from doing so.

 

Another flaw is the obvious risk that a bad guy would successfully complete the program, which would give them easy access to big, inviting targets. But the bad guys aren't having problems with access now, and this would at least increase the odds that another citizen marshal might also be present to neutralize them.

 

The Citizen Marshal Initiative makes more sense than, say, increasing funding for mental health - not that it might not make sense to do that for other reasons - because a mentally unstable person isn't always identified before he goes on his rampage.

 

I'm sure liberals will deride this idea as trying to bring back the "wild west" or whatever. They'll also claim that the citizen marshals would have itchy trigger fingers and so forth. But those who can pass both the background checks and the training should be far less likely to make such mistakes, and they would be fully subjected to penalties under the law if they did.

 

As much as liberals may indulge the fantasy that the government could ban the sale of guns to bad guys, the fact remains that there are already hundreds of millions of guns in circulation, and criminals don't respect any law - including the ones that say they can't have guns. It's far better to arm the good guys and give them a chance to stop a crime before it happens. Under this proposal, they would have the training and the access that would increase their odds of success.

 

Yes, this would cost some federal money and give the federal government an expanded role in law enforcement. That will trouble some conservatives, which I understand. It will also give libertarians the heebie jeebies, which delights me to no end.

 

But the only thing that matters here is whether it will stop a mass shooting, and I believe this proposal has a better chance of doing that than anything else I've seen put forth - which is why I offer it here and why I hope other conservatives will embrace it as an alternative to the left's never-ending call for gun control.

Came across a great read for a proposed solution.

 

By Dan Calabrese via CainTV.com

 

It's all good to read, the first thing I thought of was who would sign up for this program? The only compensation you get is free training. I can see abuse of power being a problem.