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That option was given to whiteout, and he was also told it would be in writing when he kept insisting he didn't have the time to wait around while funds cleared. It was only after he was told that the car was not going to be sold to him, that he conceded to having funds there in full beforehand. After 6 days of the same subject, I will readily admit I was done. NOTE: The preferred method all along was a $5k deposit subject to inspection(as written in the agreement). The advice given was... to inspect car in morning, and then have wire in place to finalize transaction and drive away with title. Whiteout didn't " have time" to spend one night in Alabama after arriving late afternoon/ early evening in Alabama from California. I was just trying to make something work for his schedule, and the only means was to pay for the car in advance with a guarantee to return funds if inspection was NOT satisfactory. I addressed the issue of a late wire in the day bringing up potential problems of clearing one 's lender that day, and subsequently he would have to stay the night until the wire cleared the following day. I look at all possible circumstances, so there are no "surprises" which become conflicts of a transaction. I was protecting not only the seller from having an uncomfortable decision of not having the funds cleared, and also Whiteout for having to spend the evening when he didn't want to, because a late wire in the day did not clear.

This was all over 1 weeks time. I explained paying for the car in full with funds clearing the bank over and over before delivery. 6 days later we are still going over yet another scenario that could lead to funds not having cleared before he wants to drive the car to California from Alabama. Thus the 3 choice ultimatum that appears to be a time constraint. I actually spoke to whiteout over the phone requesting we possible move the date back a week, so I had more time to get the info . All this time I did not tell him to sign the agreement or send a deposit. He was going to have 1st shot at buying the car(which he did). I tried everything over those 6 days to get the additional information and was unable to. This did not happen overnight. Personally, posting peoples personal information(text conversations) on the internet is not something I would do. Actions like this make me glad the car wasn't sold to him. Autocheck Issue: This car is branded as a "manufacture buy back". The owner bought it from an independent dealer in 2009 not knowing it was a manufactur buyback, since it had a clean title(dealer did retitle the car before he bought it). It was only about a month ago I informed him it was a "manufacture buy back", because I run an "autocheck" on all vehicles before I list them for sale. I want to know as much about the car beforehand, so I can represent it accurately. The autocheck helps me ask questions to the seller about history and other documentation that may be helpful for a new potential owner to make a decision. Whiteout will tell you that the first words out of my mouth was that the car has an issue on "autocheck" regarding the title. I did attain a copy of the warranty and campaign work on the vehicle to see if I could find out the reason for the "Buy back". I have sold a couple other buybacks and all of them were during the 2008-2009 period when the values plummeted, but got by on a technicality on the "3 strike rule". I have attached a copy below as well as the autocheck(that whiteout received right away). It does look like possibly it had 3 door issues, and the only other thing I might be able to say is that it is a southern California car, and perhaps had something to do with the Orange county fiasco and was sold while floored through Lamborghini(Audi), and there was a problem getting a title. Anyway, it is a small world in the exotic community, and if anyone knows the real history, please feel free to express yourself. The current owner did have the vehicle brought to MoG and had some servicing and campaign issues addressed(gas tank, etc.) in 2010. he has owned the car over 5 years and put on less than 3k miles. He was aware of no issues with car or title(he has a clean title). The price has been adjusted downwards from market value because of the "branding" on autocheck.

I would agree in that I usually have much more information when selling a vehicle on a seller's behalf. Many of you I have assisted with purchases and sales. I have provided complete service history, orginal MSRP's, many photos upfront with the additional photos upon request. I can only provide what I am given. I don't expect commitments without this information, but once I achieved all I can achieve a decision has to be made whether it is worth to move toward the next step with an inspection, or to just move on. I always try, but the decision is not mine in the end. If the information in the end is NOT enough to make a commitment, I understand. I think the impression that is given, is that I immediately ask for a commitment and signed agreement which is far from the truth. Once a person is comfortable with the terms, and they want to be in a position to secure the car subject to inspection, than an agreement is sent. It is very mutual at that point. Now, once that happens, many times new questions do arise and more information is requested by the buyer which I do my best to provide. Ultimately the inspection will be the judge, and at that time it becomes an actual cost to the buyer, so I understand wanting enough information so that moving to that step is not a waste of ones time and money.

The normal procedure would be to agree on price subject to inspection and sign mutual agreement. Send small deposi(which is listed on agreement) to secure vehicle while arranging inspection. After inspection is completed and satisfactory...pay for vehicle and full and arrange transport. Go to link to see photos and information posted and then have your friend contact me via email or phone for additional info: http://exoticcarsearch.com/?p=3485 I do have the autocheck and warranty and campaign report from Lamborghini. You can call Nick for the carfax.

Whiteout Response: I sent you an agreement last week with a 5k deposit to secure the vehicle subject to inspection. You never sent back agreement nor a deposit. I didn't market the car or offer it to anyone else during that time, since I was trying to get additional information for you. I tried without success for additional photos and tire dates. When I was unable to gather the information you requested, I advised investing in an inspection service for a couple hundred dollars to come inspect and take the photos you wanted. You declined insisting the owner needed to take his own time to get photos if he wanted to sell a car to you. In regards to payment: You were never told you needed to pay for the car upfront. The procedure which was advised was for you to inspect the car in the morning and then take a lunch break while you initiated the wire already in place for the remaining balance. So this way you only had a "refundable" $5k deposit out of pocket, and no other monies were given until the inspection was complete. Wire hits...away you go with title in hand. I have done this procedure many times. Basically you wanted to control the whole transaction and do it all on your terms. The seller reserves the right to sell as he or she wishes, and if those terms are not agreeable...both parties move on. You only agreed to terms once you were told the owner had chosen NOT to sell the vehicle to you. There was never a time constraint on this sale from the owner or I...... I actually encouraged you to perhaps move the date back a week, so you might have more time in your schedule to do the transaction. By the way...what is wrong with Alabama? You meet some of the nicest folks from Alabama...like the owner of the LP640. Brian@ECS BTW- A cashiers check is NOT CASH Nick. Doesn't matter if you are a lawyer or not...still not cash. Anybody looking for a nice 6 speed manual LP640? A little story behind it (Unbeknownst to the owner...no accident), but price reflects it.

Two sides to every story, but I will leave it off the internet. BTW- I already had an "autocheck" on the vehicle which we spoke about in detail. Missing a lot of little details between the lines.

Congrats Ed! There has never been a picture that shows just how beautiful the Rosso Vic color really is. A must see in person.

Very seldom ordered color from dealers(or end users), and that makes it even more attractive! BEAUTIFUL!

Nice!

Loaded up and headed to SoCal! Congrats Alex! Thanks MotorCars Of Georgia!

Congrats Jeff! Definitely filling a void after owning this beauty!

Shitty deal for you Roy. Sad to say, but a written agreement is only as good as the individual behind it.

Let me know if a highly optioned 2010 lp560 Spyder in Rosso vic might work. 2k miles $169k

Godspeed Ray. My condolences to his family. Such a tragedy.

Congrats!

Happy Birthday Allan!

Your Diablo will need to be off the ground also, since the angle needed to pull the engine and transmission is too steep to clear the rear of the car with the Diablo on flat ground.

Congratulations!!Certain colors have gained and lost popularity, but yellow always will scream LAMBO to me.

Look at your ring gear closely for missing teeth/fractures.

Rebuild your starter motor. Replacing a failed starter is an engine out procedure, although I have known people who have said they have done it without removing the engine. A good lambo tech will tell you it is just easier to pull the motor/driveline than to Jimmy jack around making a enough room to access and R and R the starter. Enjoying this thread! Thanks!

Congrats John!!

Thanks for the chuckle.

I believe one fan runs all the time, and the other comes on with the A/C. Can't remember which side is which though.

Looks like Woodside road that goes up to Skyline blvd. We called it four corners 35 years ago. Great motorcycling area back then. Way too many peeps now to do what we used to do.

In regards to clutch pedal pressure I would like to hear from Jeff. My personal experiences from working at a lambo dealer and driving many Diablos, is that the newer models seemed to have less clutch pedal pressure, especially a 6.0. I do not know if different slave cylinders were used or even something as simple as the leverage point on the pedal hardware was changed. A technician also shared with me that an older clutch also had another factor working against it. The "fingers" on the clutch assembly itself over time/use and being subject to high temperatures would lose some of their "flexibility"(not the right word), and become "hardened" thus creating more pedal pressure. Perhaps some of you that have had new clutches installed can give some feedback if your "new" clutch needed less pedal pressure than your old clutch.