RobberBaron Report post Posted February 23, 2016 Hello everyone, With the 2016 election around the corner I love listening to all of my idiotic peers (oh yes, the beauty of a college town) speak. After all, we are very progressive with our hypersensitive, pc, and entitled society. Anyway, really really enjoyed this video and I am sure many of you all will too. Well worth the time to watch it. Cheers, RobberBaron Link: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercar Ace Report post Posted February 23, 2016 Hello everyone, With the 2016 election around the corner I love listening to all of my idiotic peers (oh yes, the beauty of a college town) speak. After all, we are very progressive with our hypersensitive, pc, and entitled society. Anyway, really really enjoyed this video and I am sure many of you all will too. Well worth the time to watch it. Cheers, RobberBaron Link: Fixed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMan Report post Posted February 23, 2016 Good video! All of these kids keep wanting free college but I'm starting to think that college is more dangerous to this society than ISIS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin2772 Report post Posted February 23, 2016 You have to love the paradox they create. They all want free college. What they don't realize, is that free college, essentially makes it useless. You'll waste 4 years of your life and for what?! Too bad college got so expensive due to the government pumping money in, in an effort to make it more affordable for everyone... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
porter Report post Posted February 23, 2016 Nothing in this world is free. So when they say free college, what they mean is that instead of the taxpayers paying for some of their already heavily subsidized education, they would prefer the taxpayers pay for all of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
escobar Report post Posted February 23, 2016 Nothing in this world is free. So when they say free college, what they mean is that instead of the taxpayers paying for some of their already heavily subsidized education, they would prefer the taxpayers pay for all of it. When I was back in Uni, we had a freeze on the tuition rates in Toronto. That resulted in EVERYTHING else going up in price. House always wins... silly kids. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellomurci Report post Posted February 23, 2016 Nothing in this world is free. So when they say free college, what they mean is that instead of the taxpayers paying for some of their already heavily subsidized education, they would prefer the taxpayers pay for all of it. True but when or if they get out of college and get a paying job they will find that the "free education" was only free at the time but now must be paid for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assman Report post Posted February 23, 2016 You have to love the paradox they create. They all want free college. What they don't realize, is that free college, essentially makes it useless. You'll waste 4 years of your life and for what?! Too bad college got so expensive due to the government pumping money in, in an effort to make it more affordable for everyone... Of course the young don't understand economics. It's easy to want everything for free when you don't pay for everything. Personally I'd I knew better I'd go to college in Australia or another socialist place and then come to the US after. Hahahahahahahaha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
porter Report post Posted February 23, 2016 Here's a nimrod asking for "free" tuition. The guy on Fox tears her a new one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assman Report post Posted February 23, 2016 Here's a nimrod asking for "free" tuition. The guy on Fox tears her a new one Yes, that was hilarious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawr Report post Posted February 23, 2016 When I got to college I heard two things that didn't make any sense to me: 1. Everyone will change majors 2-4 times. 2. 50% of freshmen will fail out of school. I couldn't believe 2. But yet I saw it with my own eyes. Only in America. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin2772 Report post Posted February 23, 2016 Of course the young don't understand economics. It's easy to want everything for free when you don't pay for everything. Personally I'd I knew better I'd go to college in Australia or another socialist place and then come to the US after. Hahahahahahahaha I see Bernie Sanders support as a direct correlation to a lack of any elementary understanding of economics. And that's a great idea, just think how much more money youd have with a free med degree! I believe I read recently that Germany is subsidizing much of their college educations with tax funds. And now many US students are heading there to get the education for far cheaper. according to their government they get the money back when they graduate and stay. While this idea might work on a small scale, eventually it will get too big.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambornima Report post Posted February 23, 2016 The problem really isn't who is going to pay for it, the problem is more along the lines of why are you going to college/university in the first place? And this is something that's not drilled enough during secondary school (at least here in Canada from my experience). There's too much talk about "do what you love and it will eventually make money".... or education just for the sake of education...this is also a cultural issue for many like myself where if you don't go to university you're looked down upon by everyone. Instead parents and teachers should be trying to find out topics in which the student is interested in, find the student's strengths/weaknesses, and guide them towards a career path that will lead them to success. Now if university is required, great, but in a lot of cases it won't be. If many can figure out that they don't need university for their career goals, then for them there is no longer a question of "who will pay for it?" to begin with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
porter Report post Posted February 23, 2016 . There's too much talk about "do what you love and it will eventually make money".... Most kids heading into university do not understand that they are picking their INCOME when they choose their major, generally speaking. You want to be a lab tech or teacher or social worker that is great, do it, but don't expect to own a private jet and a several mansions in different countries. It can happen... but it's unlikely. Parents should be guiding their kids towards whatever career they want, THEN choosing the courses that lead to the career choice. Instead most kids enter university with no idea what they want to do, drifting through general studies and wasting time and resources. Pick the job, then figure out the path to it, and not the other way around. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
escobar Report post Posted February 23, 2016 ^ That's a fair point, but how many kids can plan 30+ years ahead at the age of 15-16? The high school counsellors do more damage than good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
porter Report post Posted February 23, 2016 ^ That's a fair point, but how many kids can plan 30+ years ahead at the age of 15-16? The high school counsellors do more damage than good. Good point also. Very few is the answer. The solution is having good parents that offer guidance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saleenfan Report post Posted February 23, 2016 Most kids heading into university do not understand that they are picking their INCOME when they choose their major, generally speaking. You want to be a lab tech or teacher or social worker that is great, do it, but don't expect to own a private jet and a several mansions in different countries. It can happen... but it's unlikely. Parents should be guiding their kids towards whatever career they want, THEN choosing the courses that lead to the career choice. Instead most kids enter university with no idea what they want to do, drifting through general studies and wasting time and resources. Pick the job, then figure out the path to it, and not the other way around. This 100% I was lucky enough I have known that I wanted to be a pilot since I was about 5 or 6 years old. But I saw far too many of my friends going to school for 2 years and having no clue what they wanted to do and as a result essentially wasted 25+k per year to "find themselves" now they are the same people who are complaining about their mediocre job and student loan debt. The other thing that blows my mind is this notion that "I'm going to go to XYZ university for my *insert useless major here* degree and spend 200,00+ on my education" even though their career path has a projected average pay of about 31k a year, this is especially confusing for business majors or accounting majors that just don't see the correlation. College is an investment that you need to evaluate if its worth it for you and your life, it is not a mandatory educational period. When I graduated from high school (gonna age myself here) in 2004 you could have asked about my graduating class what they were going to do and the response from about 90% of them would be "going to college". Its so ingrained in our culture that if you don't go you're not going to amount to anything, which is so ridiculously untrue. I dont know if its going to take a cultural shift or what but somethings gonna have to give. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDoctor Report post Posted February 23, 2016 Nothing in this world is free. So when they say free college, what they mean is that instead of the taxpayers paying for some of their already heavily subsidized education, they would prefer the taxpayers pay for all of it. Exactly. Never understood the free education argument. College is a service, not a right. If you want a free education, go to the library. Most kids I've met just never planned on what to do after college. Even while earning degrees, they never applied themselves. No internships, work experience, etc. They all view a college degree like its some some type of entitlement to a certain lifestyle. I earned the degree, now where is my six figure income? No, it's a stepping stone. Now, go bust yo ass in the real world! Can't wrap my head around current times. People are lame. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercar Ace Report post Posted February 23, 2016 Exactly. Never understood the free education argument. College is a service, not a right. If you want a free education, go to the library. Most kids I've met just never planned on what to do after college. Even while earning degrees, they never applied themselves. No internships, work experience, etc. They all view a college degree like its some some type of entitlement to a certain lifestyle. I earned the degree, now where is my six figure income? No, it's a stepping stone. Now, go bust yo ass in the real world! Can't wrap my head around current times. People are lame. Growing up not very well off, I knew that if I went to college I would have to work my a$$ off and make the most of my time there. I primarily saw college as a way to learn some cool stuff, gain some great networking experience, and then use that my last year there to work on getting building all that experience into opportunity. I took out student loans with the full knowledge that I would have to pay that debt back in full plus some, so my attitude was this is the path I'm choosing to get ahead so this is was I have to be personally responsible for. I have zero sympathy for kids the want a free ride or feel they are owed something. College is a private, not a right, no one payed for my education, I had to do so on my own. So what is holding these kids back? There heart might be in the right place but it's time for them to wake the f*ck up and realize the reality that we all are in. For each one f them complaining there's 10 other kids out there that would and are hustling to make thing happen. So what's their excuse? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheelsRCool Report post Posted February 24, 2016 Part of the problem also is this idea that "Everyone should go to college" and that you are some kind of second-class citizen if you didn't/don't. Thus we de-valued the worth of a college major. Meanwhile the government drove up the price. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rampante Report post Posted February 24, 2016 Letting these kids vote or run your country is like giving a Chimpanzee a lighter... Letting him waltz though a dynamite factory .... And then acting surprised at the result !! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rampante Report post Posted February 24, 2016 Part of the problem also is this idea that "Everyone should go to college" and that you are some kind of second-class citizen if you didn't/don't. Thus we de-valued the worth of a college major. Meanwhile the government drove up the price. 100% true; many of these kids are truly not college material. This is the "everyone wins a prize" sickness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assman Report post Posted February 24, 2016 Most kids heading into university do not understand that they are picking their INCOME when they choose their major, generally speaking. You want to be a lab tech or teacher or social worker that is great, do it, but don't expect to own a private jet and a several mansions in different countries. It can happen... but it's unlikely. Parents should be guiding their kids towards whatever career they want, THEN choosing the courses that lead to the career choice. Instead most kids enter university with no idea what they want to do, drifting through general studies and wasting time and resources. Pick the job, then figure out the path to it, and not the other way around. But what if you don't have parents or good ones? What's not being taught is hard work and values. It's all, I'll do what I want and someone else will pay. Also because of all the blingy social media they think wealth is a dime a dozen and everyone can do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smash Boy Report post Posted February 24, 2016 I'm convinced you could pick any engineering major for undergrad and come out perfectly ok and on schedule with whatever career or entrepreneurial path you wish for post college if you couldn't make up your mind before hand. Science and math majors work well too. Only problem is that it's a lot of work, challenging, and eats into your social life quite a bit unless you're extremely smart. So having said that it's best to know what's up ahead of time because engineering traditionally has a 60% drop out rate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smash Boy Report post Posted February 24, 2016 Of course the young don't understand economics. It's easy to want everything for free when you don't pay for everything. Personally I'd I knew better I'd go to college in Australia or another socialist place and then come to the US after. Hahahahahahahaha Awesome idea. When I have kids I'll send them to live with our cousins in Melbourne to get their free education to better help me afford these overpriced exotics in the States. Seriously, you can't go wrong with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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